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Published: 2018-06-03 20:32:38 +0000 UTC; Views: 23383; Favourites: 256; Downloads: 0
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Description Well, here's the group picture I said I'd do with all the next generation Primes together.  I included the official art of Sentinel, Optimus, and Rodimus because I didn't really feel like tracing over them for recreation.  From Nova to Mammuthus, they're all here.

I tried to find out if there were any leaders in between Rodimus and Primal, but for the life of me, I couldn't really find anyone.  At least, no official Matrix-bearers anyway.

Now that I've completed the Primes (both ancient and recent), I'm done with Prime characters for a while.  Up next, I'm going to take a crack at the Titans, starting with the original city former himself, Metroplex!

Let me know what you all think in the comments below.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to ??? [2019-03-29 17:21:07 +0000 UTC]

Well, from what I've heard, a part of it can be blamed on how the writers like to treat Bumblebee anymore. 

In the Armada cartoon, the character Hot Shot was originally intended to be a new version of Bumblebee, but because Hasbro didn't have the trademark on the name, they called him Hot Shot instead.  On the surface, he certainly fits the bill, the young, yellow, kid-appeal Autobot with some of the closest ties to the show's human allies, but in practice, Hot Shot's character arc was more akin to that of G1 Hot Rod/Rodimus - less of the overeager little brother that Bumblebee had been, and more of the brash, hotheaded, all-American boy who winds up maturing over time and assuming a leadership role himself.

Eventually, Hasbro did reacquire the trademark of the Bumblebee name for the 2007 live-action movie, creating the first new incarnation of the character since the original.

Because of his triumphant return to the screen, new incarnations of Bumblebee began appearing across new continuities.  This started with Animated in late 2007, but it was with Animated that Bumblebee's short-lived link with Hot Shot came into play.  During the development of Animated, Hot Shot was going to be part of the series' cast, but after Hasbro resecured the name Bumblebee for the movie, Hot Shot was renamed and redesigned to resemble the classic Bumblebee character, but his role in the show went unchanged.  The little yellow Autobot kid-appeal character, yes, closest friend to Sari Sumdac, but also the brash, trouble-making speed demon that Hot Shot had been as well, whose antics caused the Autobots as much trouble as their enemies did.

This inadvertent appropriation of Hot Rod's/Rodimus' personality traits via the missing link of Hot Shot began an evolution of Bumblebee's place in the TF universe that continues to this day.  Although Rodimus is still considered a major legacy character, you probably won't see much of Rodimus much in modern Transformers cartoons because, little by little, Bumblebee has taken over the role he once played.  That includes the "maturation to leadership" arc that was once Rodimus' defining trait, but which, after Animated, has been a staple of nearly every major depiction of Bumblebee.

In other words, the reason Hot Rod/Rodimus isn't getting much attention anymore is that they've just been giving his story arc to Bumblebee.

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MDTartist83 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-29 17:52:52 +0000 UTC]

All valid points. But I think it all comes down to the fact that most modern writers and animators simply refuse to acknowledge Hotrod/Rodimus' existence. Like they just want to forget about him entirely and pretend he never existed. Nevermind that he was every bit as important to the franchise's legacy as Optimus was. Not that it really surprises me anymore because like I said, Rodimus has pretty much become a shadow of his former self. But this recycling of the same plot with Bumble Bee taking his role has gotten old. And if Rodimus is so important, then they should make an effort to take that extra step. But like I said, people do what they want to do. Still, they can make a better effort to shine the light on someone else. Transformers has TONS of other characters to choose from and everybody has their own story to tell. Its good to see that Optimus and Bumble Bee are still popular today. But they can't hog the spotlight forever. And Optimus is not the only Prime out there. Sooner or later the focus has to change. But of course, I don't expect them to do that or to shine the light on Hotrod/Rodimus because I know they're not going to. They don't want to. And they have no desire to. As for Bumble Bee, he has become the second most popular character in the series right next to Optimus Prime. Optimus and Bumble Bee are pretty much all anybody really cares about anymore. They are the representatives of the franchise. The real reason why Rodimus doesn't get much attention is because people refuse to acknowledge him. If you ask anybody about Rodimus today, you'll likely get one of two responses; they would either shake their heads and turn away, or they would act all confused like they don't know who you're talking about. All he is nowadays is an object for others to take out their hatred on, and a marketing prop. At least the 1986 movie treated him like a character. In that movie, he was important and special. But in Animated, all he was is an object for the writers to poke fun at for laughs. Well, they did what they wanted to do. They took out their hatred of him. So good for them. But I stand by what I say. 

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RexBlazer1 In reply to MDTartist83 [2019-03-29 19:02:09 +0000 UTC]

I will agree that that is probably a good part of why Hot Rod/Rodimus doesn't get much exposure these days outside of the comics.  However, he did appear in a flashback in an episode of "Cyberverse" that didn't show him dying, making it possible that he'll return.  Plus, he was featured a bit in "The Last Knight" but that was admittedly more of an "In Name Only" kind of deal.

I think another contributing factor is that Hasbro is putting more effort into maintaining a consistent core cast of recognizable characters across the different Transformers media.  Simply put, they don't want to replace Optimus.  Same thing for Megatron, which explains why Galvatron is treated often as only a temporary powered up form for Megs who inevitably reverts back to his old identity.  After the backlash that came with the original G1 movie, they don't want a repeat of that and decided to just stick to the more recognizable characters.

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MDTartist83 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-29 19:39:06 +0000 UTC]

Somehow I doubt Hotrod will return to Cyberverse. I think he was only for those few scenes in specific episodes. And if they do have him show up again, I won't be surprised if they give him the short end of the stick just for laughs and giggles. By this point in time, I'm used to it. And no, "The Last Knight" doesn't count. Because that was NOT Hotrod. It was just a random character with a familiar name slapped on him. That guy bared no resemblance to the real Hotrod in either design or personality. That guy wasn't Hotrod. I refuse to call him that anymore. 

Oh well. To each their own. But recycling the same formula becomes repetitive and boring after a while. And yeah, I noticed how Galvatron gets pushed aside every chance there is and is only treated as a temporary power up for Megatron. Despite the fact that he and Megatron were technically the same person in G1. And I think the main reason why he reverted back to Megatron in the fourth movie was mainly due to bad incompetent writing. Because I know for a fact that the writers behind the first five movies were incompetent. They basically said "Screw continuity, let's just have him revert back to his old self just because." Some people may not think continuity is that important, but I beg to differ. And also, Optimus has died not once, not twice, but MANY times before even beyond the 1986 movie. But he always comes back one way or another. Bottom line, there should be more variety so that the story doesn't get old and repetitive. Because newer TF series are beginning to repeat the same story over and over again. And people should make an effort to take a chance and do something different.

Of course, I could go on and on. But I think I have said enough. I mean to be fair, you have your points, and I have mine. Neither of us are right nor wrong. Let's just leave it at that. I apologize if I rambled on. And I mean that sincerely with no sarcasm or disrespect. But I stand by what I say, and you stand by what you say. Let's just call it a quits. I'm sorry to have bothered you. 

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RexBlazer1 In reply to MDTartist83 [2019-03-29 20:12:00 +0000 UTC]

Can't say for certain that Hot Rod won't return.  As for TLK, as I said, "In Name Only."

The rinse-and-repeat of Megatron turning into Galvatron before reverting back is a bit tiresome for me as well.  That's probably why I like the approach that Simon Furman took for Galvatron in IDW where, to include one of his favorite characters without taking Megatron off the table and without resorting to complex concepts like time travel, he simply reinvented Galvatron as a completely separate character with no connection to Megatron or Unicron.  The Aligned Continuity took that approach as well since, in the pages of the Covenant of Primus book, it was mentioned that Galvatron was the leader of a cult of chaos on pre-war Cybertron.  I like this approach much better since it allows one to do more with Galvatron than just being a constant and temporary "Megatron 2.0".

And to be clear on my end, I was never disagreeing with your points.  I was just saying that there are probably multiple contributing factors for why things are the way they are instead of just one thing.

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MDTartist83 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-29 20:19:17 +0000 UTC]

Fair enough. 

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Solarzilla [2019-03-14 01:05:02 +0000 UTC]

Its weird that I want & don't want Primal to be a Prime.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Solarzilla [2019-03-14 01:05:38 +0000 UTC]

Mixed feelings?

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Solarzilla In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-14 03:18:57 +0000 UTC]

Yup. Blame Power Of The Primes.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Solarzilla [2019-03-14 03:20:19 +0000 UTC]

Well, there was a point in the convention-exclusive comics where he did bear the Matrix, so it’s not an entirely new concept.

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SonictheBandicoot [2018-06-07 07:29:36 +0000 UTC]

There's no Animated version of Micronus Prime or Liege Maximo? How odd...

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RexBlazer1 In reply to SonictheBandicoot [2018-06-07 11:17:22 +0000 UTC]

This is the Prime Lineage that came AFTER the 13.  Also, Micronus hadn't been created by Hasbro yet when Animated came around.

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TheOriginaJetPhoenix In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-02-11 16:43:12 +0000 UTC]

No animated form of Optima Optimus? Aww XD

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RexBlazer1 In reply to TheOriginaJetPhoenix [2019-02-11 16:43:50 +0000 UTC]

I may do that someday, but technically we already got him with Primal Major here.

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ZER0GEO-Arts In reply to ??? [2018-06-03 22:46:38 +0000 UTC]

From assholes and douches to honorable and respected. XD Nicely done.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to ZER0GEO-Arts [2018-06-03 22:58:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, though if it were up to me, there wouldn’t be that many assholes and douches.

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OptimusV42 In reply to ??? [2018-06-03 20:35:22 +0000 UTC]

Nice chart.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-06-03 20:36:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-06-03 20:37:41 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome.
 

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