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there reference sheets you made are so useful! Thank you so much for them!
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*looks at the one nose on the right* Igor, is that you?
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I usually draw a line as a nose, thanks for your noses!
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Your reference sheets are awesome! Thank you for making them!
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hey eurm can you do something like this with hands, please?
Ive had a hard time drawing noses and mouth and this helped me a lot
so if you have little time
id be very gratefull
btw i love your work
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you are wonderful! thanks for the tutorials! keep em coming XD
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The nose at the far right... Gru, is that you? O.O
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what is there to be said exactly, thank you? thank you very much? very very very much? thank you for existing basically. i, sir, have been needing this. good work!
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Ha! It's always fun to see a model tartlet believe that he/she's going to learn something by copying other's work. That's the archetype of the moron who will hit the 30's age mark with drawings only his/her friends cfan compliment to avoid an emotional breakdown in their, rather delusional, friend. They do believe art doesn't take work! And that's hilarious!!!
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troll, but I'm gonna feed it anyway. Copying is how they teach you to learn new things and improve. I've done a master study for at least half of my classes. Saying copying an artist and it not helping you improve is like saying working from photographs and saying that doesn't help you improve. By doing and practicing, even just doodling and sketching is helping an artist improve and learn.
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Nope, "copying" is to grab something you don't fully understand, and to pretend you are obtaining a benefit from it."LEARNING"is to observe, gather valuable information, gain understanding from it, then apply it in the most usesful way to what you do. Of course, it doesn't surprise me to hear it from someone like you. Seriously, your gallery literally screams like you don't have a clue of how the human body works. Example, that Ezio, or Assassin Creed guy, with the poor perspective, and even worst pose. Did you spent a year or so watching at others drawings before you felt confident enough to draw that? Don't you feel at times it looks wonky?
Sorry, I'm not going to agree with your rather poor perceiption of learning. It's a proven fact what is what really helps artists. Whenever somebody says "I can learn from copying", it clearly proves how little this person knows about arts.
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seriously? do you think you're not copying in so many of your own pieces? you must be the only source of true originality left in the world and should be seen as a god i suppose. i mean seriously....take a gander at your own gallery before you start criticizing others, you could afford some learning.
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And we have , yet, another dolt which neither knows what is being talked; or the concepts involved in the subject. I don't know if laughing at you; or clearing up facts-I'll do both.
The main subject is "learning". The current subject is "method of...". There is a discussion where some people (generally amateurs) preach about the benefits of grabbing other's works (drawings, illustrations, paintings, etc), then make use of them as factual learning sources (in this case, a set of sketches of already stylished noses). Such method is a farse. Even when I'm not the best of them all (neither I have claimed to be it), I have a particularily better understanding of the anatomy, as well as other important stuff, than the people whinning because I told some to learn from nature (real life).
Anyways, as I might have forgot to clarify, "copying", in this case, refers to not use nature as a learning source but to use other's drawings. Not "copying" in the sense of "to copy the concepts, ideas, or parafernalia of other's and to claim intellectual ownership of it". In that aspect, yes, I draw soldiers, weapons, and even do fanart just like a gazillion people here. Still, I can claim intellectual ownership over several concepts to some extent, such as caseless, recoiless, light-weight polymer-frame, shoulder-mounted 200 rounds helical-magazine assault rifles. And the name of the fictitious manufacturing company, as well as the army which makes use of it, and that army's concept. <-the last 2 paragraphs were the patient explanation.
But again, it's always better to act all butthurt because "fwiend gwot hwarmed by stoopid twoll!!1! >
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Well that picture was just a sketch so no it's not perfect. It's an idea that I thought was fun and thought others would enjoy, but I, unfortunately, have more important things to do than work on that particular piece. I also never claimed to be a master of figure drawing and you're no master either. What makes you so qualified to judge my skills?
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And what makes you so perfect to not get judged? Also, the answer to yours is "I blatantly claim that learning from watching other's work is actually helpful to improve my skills". Anyways, yet another clarification. A sketch, per se, is a preliminar test of a concept before final execution. It helps a lot to verify how well-thought the idea is, and how it should look like. Again, that one of the AC clearly shows you lack a lot of anatomy understanding, which is presented through a mechanical, impossible pose. But anyway, you might as well look around DA for a drawing of a picture of somebody running, then copy it and call it a day.
Again, you are not some sort of god to avoid "judgement" (in this case, only the one where I point how you learning method wasn't of any use when you drew the AC fanart. I think there might be more, plus some mocks of your ridiculous ideas, but I'm too lazy to go back and verify). I think i didn't even use some insults (if I did I take that last line back), but it seems like someone's ego here is so bloated that she can't take a simple fact as her "prefered" method of learning is not working out in such ambitious projects. Neither I think they will. Unless you outright trace some other picture with a similar pose, then repeat the proses everytime you stumble yourself upon the same pose.
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I never said I was above being judged. And a sketch is just a quick drawing to get an idea out and see its validity yes, but you think I use my first sketch for the final piece? Ha! No. I draw something ten times before I find the right drawing to take to the final piece. It was just a rough. Quit trying to act like you caught me in some mistake. Not everything an artist does is going to be perfect and smooth. If you live life like that it's pretty boring and rigid because you're afraid to fuck up. If you don't do ten different drawings how d oyou know your first idea was the best one anyway? I never said my AC piece was amazing. You're the one obsessing over something that is basically nothing.
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You can actually learn a lot from copying other's work, this is coming from my own experience. I'm rather unsure if you are trolling or not.
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Yeah, name one great (actually succesful popular, personality in the art industry (movies, tv, paint, comic, illustration, etc)) artist who got there by copying. Come on, I want to see you try.
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Quite simply, I can't. In my previous comment I was referring to copying as a means of learning, or as tbonegirl28 mentioned, doing "master studies". You copy something a great artist drew. But you do not simply copy. You examine the piece, you observe techniques the artist used, you understand them and why they did what they did. You find what was good about the piece, or what made it a good piece, then go about applying that to your own work. Heck, that's what references like these are for. Practice, to be used as a tool to gain skill.
I was not, however, implying that there are any famous/successful artists out there that copy everything they make professionally, or who aren't able to draw if they don't have any references. The thought of that itself is ridiculous.
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Thank you! Thats what I meant as well, but it was much more elegantly said by you, voisb.
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Thank you as well! Glad I was able to make a point.
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Oh, cut with the crap, little kid. Every good artist worth their salt here knows that study of nature and real life is the only way to improve. And more importantly, NONE of them will ever agree that using others works in the same way you use real life will give the same results.
Still, it's nice to believe that actually not working your ass will (somehow) work. That's why I don't worry in discussing this with the likes of you. What? Did you believe I was going to beg you to admit the facts? Hey, it's a free world, you can jerk off to the idea of learning from another person's illustrations. Just, don't expect respect from it. Other people did not worked their asses so hard to tolerate a retard going around spreading blatant bullshit with the potential to prejudice capable, yet gullible, amateurs.
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Your arguments are tiresome and ridiculous, old man. I'm sure plenty of real artists will agree copying helps — but definitely not wannabe-losers like yourself, too afraid to admit to that which is already blatantly obvious.
But who the hell am I kidding? Judging from your gallery you are obviously a master of art in your own little world, so keep it to yourself instead of belittling younger artists who actually try and aspire to become something. I wish you luck in your "art career", maybe someday we will draw as well as you. //snickers
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this guy is either insane or trolling....wow
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I tell the same, proof, please. C'mon, let's see how many of them agree with you. You can mock me, at least I don't need to take art from others to show a pretty avatar. And one single similar drawing.
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I could show you more of my art if I wanted, but as I really don't care for your opinion (or being insulted, like everyone whose art you've ever come across), I'm not going to. Deal with it.
(As for proof; I'll just leave it at the fact that my artwork has made it to the front page of deviantart before on my previous account, so I daresay people do back my art and I personally don't give a damn if you don't.)
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Yeah, cool story, little kid-I wonder, did you know that art theft is a punishable offense here in DA? It doesn't matter, you can keep with your delusions of grandeur about unexistant accounts and stolen art. Just like any model 12 years-old kid.
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Hah, so if anyone younger than you has art that is superior to yours, you accuse them of art theft? Niiiice.
At any rate, I have all the full-res .PSD files of my "stolen artwork" saved to my hard drive, layers and all. Oh, now I wonder if you even know what layers are, or is that too advanced a concept for your sorry-excuse-of-a-brain? But I won't bother convincing you of that, as like I said earlier I really don't care whether you believe me or not. Good day sir.
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Oh, really? C'mon show it up. Words are just that, words. Or are you shitting on your pants at the frightening idea of admiting you are a fraud? Oh, yeah, it smells how your pants and sit stinks right now (more than usual)-"oooooh, I can't show up what I brag about and this guy doesn't feel intimidated by my stories. I'll try keeping it up, maybe that "troll" Makarov believes what I say and begs for mercy!"
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Just to have you shut up, why not? I'll PM you with links.
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HEY, THAT'S IT!!! You PM them because you don't want to risk your sorry ass to get these recognized! Indeed, I'm going to grab these links, I'll track the artist, then, I'll ask them to verify wether they sent me their artwork or not! Easy as pie!!! And if they are images for-illustrational-porpouses, then you outwight stole them. Not that it's that hard, with ConceptArt.org, and manga/comic forums EVERYWHERE on the internet, getting to the source won't be a problem!
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Go right ahead! I wish you luck on finding the "original artist". //snickers
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Hey guys, if you happen to be reading this, I have you an interesting activity:
The guy above sent me the following links, claiming to be the mind behind them, so, let's see how many accounts with different IPs can recognize these:
i.imgur.com/BoC2kUu.png i.imgur.com/7VGvd2e.png This two one are supposed to be his 30-minutes speedpaints-please notice how different is the
i.imgur.com/WaMp82w.png This one in particular is signed with something that read like "Hiercse", or "Hierese"-it's mezmerising since the fact of the guy signing everything as "Voisb", then asking me "not to reveal" his secret information, despite the fact artist only hide their information simply by not signing their stuff.
i.imgur.com/f4Knax9.png This one shares similar art style with the one above-however, both this and the one above have more different brush style than the first 2 links.
Given that analyze in Photoshop CS6 shows the sign to read different to what the kid claims (he claims it reads "Therese", but no clue was found with such request).
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