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Published: 2006-06-29 03:18:28 +0000 UTC; Views: 1760; Favourites: 36; Downloads: 129
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Sometimes titles come more easily than others.For figure show sometime later in the year.
Variations on exisitng, this might be the basis for mixed media.
This is all digital as it is now.
What's it about?
Is it about 2 lesbian vampires? No.
Is it about rampant narcissism? Probably.
Is it about feeding off your own work? Yeah.
Something is in there, and I am still trying to dig it out.
I have at least 4 other variations on this, subtlely varied.
I get the sense that it holds up in context with my other work because here, the figurative elements are used incidentally as indications of humanity...not literal illustration of any "someone".
But whatever, mostly I am making stuff that I would print out and hang up on my own walls.
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Amen Amen. Even in great beauty there can be found vast ungliness of spirit.
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Nothing captures my imagination more that a woman's lovely profile. Guess that's why I love Egyptian art to the degree that I do. Great new mythos you're creating here. And, just as we are about to grasp the iconography, the satellite image is scrambled mid-screen...
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You give greater clarity by way of description to something that has been rustling about in the dark.
Thanks for that...the Egyptian aspect is something I think that is very accurate, and that had been more subconscious until this point...now that you say it, I can see it. Thanks for shinning the light. Always, I am honored by your comments.
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It seems to me that it needs more development compared to some of your other work, Iβve been waiting to see your variations and if you can unearth whatβs in there... There is a bit too much definition in the faces to accept them general reference to humans rather then individuals, adding some vagueness there may help. Maybe applied asymmetrically, with one face more clear then the other... And in-general the effect of what is shown and what is hidden in this image is extremely important, but is not as controlled as Iβm used to seeing from you.
Feeding off ones work? I can see that. Though in a very negative sense, cannibalism and filicide. I can not see it as nourishment etc or positive. Mother and daughter is more apt then male symbols, artists being more like mothers then fathers to our work. In a way that continues the theme of narcissism, flesh of the child being ones own flesh in a way. Many smart things going on
I feel it needs a lot of work to reach itβs full potential, but only because I see itβs potential is so very high. Hopefully you work on it more and we can see if my intuition is right
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I forgot to speak to the "feeding" aspect.. in fac tyou nailed it,. this is not feeding in a nourishing sense, but rather in a way that IS negative and more destructive. Becoming too engrossed in a sense of self-worth and losing sight of the larger whole... one's role in a larger context maybe.
I think that I am speaking to the doing of one thing, a job or course of study as it relates to the whole of our existence.
The...whatw e do is not as large and necessary as we feel it is at the moment we feel it. Everything is bigger and there is so much more "out there" .
Speding ones life engrossed and dedicated to the pursuit of something artificial and fleeting is folly. Vertainly not a new idea, but a reminder... I think even for myself as personal life situations change ... this is a way to remind myself to remain honest and focused on what matters rather than falling prey to the seduction of the more corporeal offerings that come with financial security. Maybe I am taking this to a too personalized definition, but I think that is only part of it and describes more the motivation then the end result. Ah well, part of the fun is figuring out what the final work will be when it grows up.
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The concepts bound to the feeding are maybe the strongest I sense in the image. Basic concept seems to be narcissism, but the expression of that can be so well fleshed out in this case by other supporting concepts and story. Even though beyond the title there is visibly little information to base that on for most people it stands out for me, maybe Iβm over emphasizing it. The sense I get is mother and daughter, not twins. Twins are coequal while mother and daughter a implies dominate/subordinate relationship, which ties to uneven relationships like eater/eaten, self/self-image, us/them, etc.
Would be nice to see some a mouth in the scrambled portions, maybe.
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It's one of those works that caused conscious divergence from the typical mode of operation, which astutely, you are feeling and I am glad for it. I appreciate the obervations and in fact, you are right in that it lacks the extra hours of development tha tis typical of other works. This too was a deliberate part of ... would it be safe to call it learning? Evolution? Trusting the early gestative parts... not taking them to their final conclusions when all decisions have been... deciced. So , that is an issue I did wrnagle with. Eveidential or maybe no, it is a record of a struggle betwen taking it further ( example: making the heavy opaque white area less dense and more transparent as Deb mentions in an earlier comment) and letting it reside in the current state...serving as a record of that decision making process, more so than a finalized work.
Those are fair and solid critiques that you offer and speak to an eye disciplined in the art of careful consideration.
For that I am very grateful. Subsequent iterations or maybe "variations" do demonstrate more development. Something here, about this point in time struck me as significant for showing anbd sharing, maybe even to glean commentary like that which you've offered ...and so I will continue to keep the possiblities open and consider the impressions that come about. Thanks very much for that, and for seeing further into the work.
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Well first I should say I am a bit relieved you read my critiques in the positive spirit they where meant, every other comment I glanced at here was overwhelmingly congratulatory I did not want to be seen as a stick in the mud. [laughs] When commenting on good work itβs easier articulating my opinions of the perceived weaknesses then it is to express my thoughts on the stronger points of the image, so my feedback tends to be sour sweet.
Well man you know I have every confidence in you, and I know that you know what you are doing. [laughs] Maybe because at this stage you are letting things organically form, instead of taking the tactical moves and taking control of almost every tiny aspect. That control you exercise is one of traits I admire most in your work so itβs apparent absence is very clear to my eyes. This picture is consciously abridged compared to your other work and had been sitting for awhile, possibly forgotten by you, and like I mentioned I think the potential for a final form is very high so I thought Iβd bring up some issues that make a case for finishing it one of these days. βDonβt leave it at this, you canβt come so far and go no furtherβ could be a condensed copy of my last comment.
That is not to say that it is not good as it is, like the boy that has the promise of growing to be a great man, there is still great worth in the boy for his own sake in his own time. It is great to see the imageβs childhood, just like itβs great to see any sketch that opens a window to the building process. It helps us all remember art-making is about a process as much as a final product. I think this image is rich conceptual farmland, I look forward to seeing it bare itβs final harvest.
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Hello once again my friend of artistic ways. This particular piece caught my eye it seems. The faces of the two women, or at least representations of the female form of facial contours, have rather identical basic characteristics. Be that just the art style or of artistic purpose isn't of my knowledge to state. But from that basic form (such as the nose, ears and facial outline), it seems to be almost at a staggered mirror position with the two faces directly in contact with each other but yet not entirely of the same level. They also appear within a particular oval area that personally reminds me of a mirror. Perhaps again this is artistic whim or perchance a deeper purpose of meaning. Even though they both have the same base their individual features differ from each other. There is a strong influence of chaos within this, perhaps that is why I like it so much. I've always seen humans as creatures of chaos being that they are far less predictable than the other animal species, even more so when one includes their ability to reason (or lack thereof when it comes to rational animal thought). As well as chaos there is balance in an interesting semi-symmetrical way much as the human face is in itself semi-symmetrical. Ah, I could go on for some time about this, you always seem to imply so much in your art that few tend to see unless they dive into it and explore. I'm not entirely sure what you wanted from this piece besides a beautiful work of art, but I happen to see a talented recreation of humanity with a multitude of vices and virtues. I could go on to mention more as I previously said but I'll spare you the rather long winded continuation. 'tis a lovely work that surely should see more attention.
-M
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Good to hear your thoughts. You are right, this is in no small part about self reflection, in many manners of speaking.
Narcissism of a sort it might be called, but also the sense of feeding off of oneself too, preying upon the predator, ultimate predation then, psychically, emotionally, literally? I think that if I try to define it too much it will lose some of the efficacy, and that some things, like mushrooms need ot be left in the dark to grow to their full potential.
You are very accurate in your description and I am glad you like the work. I do too ( talk about narcissism eh?!).
Thanks very much for taking time to share those impressions.
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beautiful, although i would have liked the white area to be more transparent., but possibly you wised to keep some things hidden.
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It's great to hear that because you are speaking from the same instinctive vibe that I felt. In fact, I did have that white are more transparent and realized that yeah, now I was okay and at a point where I am ready to let it become more opaque. I love that you "get" that, intuitively, because it means that we are in some ways speaking the same dialects, and I find that an honor of sorts. Maybe you feel the other aspect, which I think you are picking up on, that something so blatant and devoid of content can lend meaningfulness to the surrounding elements, just by context and proximity. I thnk some people are like that too, maybe we all are from time to time. But I appreciate you checking it out, it's always excellent to hear from you!
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i had a basic urge to try to scratch it off as if it were a lind of latex.... that the white was a temporary covering as it is such a different "surface". i dont usualy make demands that people change their work. In particular, I have a sence of curiosity about much of your art as i feel it is not purely decorative, that you infuse your work with purpose.
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Oh certainly, the decorative has found its way into the result... maybe but the intent is never that.
I know how to make the Olive Garden wall art if I need to make a quick $$ but what wakes me up and keeps me up into the wee hours of morning are these things.
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No Pity for the Majority?
The president was in the town where I work today, blocking off roads and holding the rest of the world up.
I was just reminded of this....
Thanks for viewing the work!
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so nice to see something from you again. : ) and you know somethings of yours are hanging on my walls.
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I wish there were more hours to visit.
Hearing that my work has found a good home makes a great cap to a hectic day.
Thanks for that, it is great knowing that a part of my world is now part of yours.
Always glad to see ya!
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It gives something to ponder for sure. It is very interesting.
Thought I'd mention I love your work that is hanging on my wall as well!
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Honestly, I have to smile hearing that. Maybe that is goofy but I love owning artwork and knowing that what I've made has reached so many great people, yeah it makes my day. Thanks for that!
Ah, and I haven't forgotten about the zombie pic for the Mr. I will try to get something new together and you'll be among the first to see it, if he is still interested!
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Absolutely! And no problem - I know how it feels to be busy, lol!
And yes, I looove my pic from you, thanks a million times over!
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There is something cold about this. Interesting.
I like it.
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Cool. I do think this is one of the more successfully deliberate works I've made.
Maybe that is a result of something... experience or age, or mental calmness in the midst of so much going on.
I am glad you are here to see it, thanks for that.
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Me too! I'm glad I get to watch you grow.
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cool! Reminds me of Michael Kaluta's Bird Of Death illustrations.
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Hey, thanks. His stuff is fantastic, in both senses of the word!
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You're welcome! Yeah I think Kaluta in on a par with Druillet for me 
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Hmmmm the variations are still locked on the hdd. Your best bet... keep watching the releases on BREED ( www.breedart.org)
Quite often, I post work there as part of the member releases that never appears here.
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Your work is simply stunning as always and I look forward to seeing each new creation. This picture is no exception.
muchas gracias et surtout je te souhaite toutes les belles choses...
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Merci, c'est une belle pensΓ©e.
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Normal... une belle pensΓ©e pour un bel exemple de crΓ©ativΓ© !
it seems to me that u deserve it!
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Word up.
I am glad to see you.
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Aww, it's NOT about 2 lesbian vamires?
Damn.
Juuuust kidding, though.
I really like this one.
I'm always completly attracted to your deviations.
Why?
I don't know.
Do you sprinkle some magic dust on them before you submit them?
Because honestly, I can't tear my eyes away.
I think it's really great that you're just doing the kind of art that YOU like, and not what other people would like to see you do.
Keep on doing whatever it is you're doing, Senecal.
Because it's working.
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Ha,
I tried to convince people that it was just popcorn cheese but it seems my secret is out!
Nah, but really, I am glad you like this too, I see so much work that I just love... it is inspiring.
Just wish there was more time lately to spend here talking and looking.
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Popcorn cheese?
Nah, I never would've believed it. That stuff is too icky.
Aww, I'm glad you're glad.
Well, at least you're busy doing things that are helping you big time, overall.
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Wow. It's stunning. This piece is captivating. One could look at it for hours. There is so much to it. I love it.
Jsut beautiful.
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Thanks very much, I am glad you stopped by to check it out!
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