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Published: 2019-07-15 12:48:55 +0000 UTC; Views: 7928; Favourites: 97; Downloads: 5
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Description finally saw Brightburn recently

interesting but predictable movie

was kinda hoping for the anti-hero to have a real reason to hate humans instead of being brainwashed
and he goes mad with power (literally) and humanity fights back in an epic series of scenes like Akira

which inspired me to do this image

edit: Homelander from the Boys was perfect evil superman who I look forward to seeing more of!
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Alexortiz25 [2022-09-15 03:32:18 +0000 UTC]

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sentry1996 In reply to Alexortiz25 [2022-09-16 10:06:20 +0000 UTC]

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sentry1996 In reply to sentry1996 [2022-09-17 05:29:06 +0000 UTC]

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Alexortiz25 In reply to sentry1996 [2022-09-17 04:26:49 +0000 UTC]

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purebredslappy [2021-12-24 23:18:29 +0000 UTC]

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sentry1996 In reply to purebredslappy [2021-12-25 00:14:26 +0000 UTC]

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purebredslappy In reply to sentry1996 [2021-12-25 02:37:25 +0000 UTC]

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SXGodzilla [2020-11-07 15:30:45 +0000 UTC]

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sentry1996 In reply to SXGodzilla [2020-11-07 15:49:15 +0000 UTC]

If only it could happen

Maybe we’ll get something similar on the boys in a later season

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Demonkiller47 [2020-06-21 05:25:47 +0000 UTC]

Humanity is fucked

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sentry1996 In reply to Demonkiller47 [2020-06-24 15:07:58 +0000 UTC]

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Demonkiller47 In reply to sentry1996 [2020-06-24 15:15:34 +0000 UTC]

Yup yup

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NewHorizontStudio [2019-07-15 21:47:58 +0000 UTC]

COol

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sentry1996 In reply to NewHorizontStudio [2019-07-15 21:48:24 +0000 UTC]

Cheers 👍

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halo20601 [2019-07-15 16:09:05 +0000 UTC]

I was really disappointed in Brightburn. To me, it looked like a Nature vs. Nurture story with a superhero twist that would ask the question of "What would happen if Kal-El wasn't raised right on Earth." I know it would lead to Ultraman and Superboy Prime; but like you said, "was kinda hoping for the anti-hero to have a real reason to hate humans instead of being brainwashed and he goes mad with power."


Great job on this, by the way.

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sentry1996 In reply to halo20601 [2019-07-15 16:41:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a million, trying to improve a bit before my next webcomic goes up

I Was really hoping they did something similar to Carrie for BrightBurn; like how she had powers, got bullied and then turned bad, BrightBurn would have been more interesting if it followed a similar formula as well as some Man of steel carnage instead of relying to much on graphic violence and jumpscares,

That’s my opinion at least

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DOOMENSTEIN [2019-07-15 13:42:14 +0000 UTC]

I really need to see Brightburn! Beautiful drawing btw!

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sentry1996 In reply to DOOMENSTEIN [2019-07-15 13:47:32 +0000 UTC]

cheers, thanks amillion

i only just saw it and before they stopped showing
It's alright as a sort of slasher horror film but it's very predictable

see for yourself 

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DOOMENSTEIN In reply to sentry1996 [2019-07-15 16:04:13 +0000 UTC]

Aren’t superhero films also predictable though?

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a54321 In reply to DOOMENSTEIN [2019-07-15 21:15:03 +0000 UTC]

Brightburn is definitely more alien horror than superhero in terms of genre. And a better description I've seen than "evil Superman" is the question of, "What if Goku hadn't been dropped on his head as a baby and remembered that he was supposed to conquer the Earth and its people?"

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sentry1996 In reply to DOOMENSTEIN [2019-07-15 16:37:00 +0000 UTC]

Yes but they can still be good films
Aquaman was extremely predictable but was great
BrightBurn’s real appeal was “evil Superman” and shows this through graphic violence and jumpscares which I’m pretty numb to,
It doesn’t really succeed as neither a superhero or horror movie as the character doesn’t really make a good hero/villain as he had a wonderful life before hand and his only reason for doing evil is that his spaceship told him to do it

Carrie from the movie Carrie is an excellent example of how BrightBurn could have been done; she has super powers, got bullied relentlessly at home and school, eventually snaps a lashes out becoming the true hero/villain

That’s my opinion, sorry for long post

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a54321 In reply to sentry1996 [2019-07-15 21:13:12 +0000 UTC]

Personally, I'm actually kinda glad the writers didn't go with the cliched and overly done "kid gets bullied and grows up to be evil" story. That's a million times more predictable in my eyes. A story about an alien child growing up normally on Earth only to have his mind altered by his ship and ultimately becoming a terror to even his own loving earth family, however, was something I found more interesting because it was different.


It also went well with what makes alien horror stories so good: the unknown. We don't know what Brandon's people are like other than that they apparently think it's a good idea to send one of their children to an alien world so he can conquer it. There could be more of them out there, they could of genetically tailored Brandon to look like a human and look completely different from us, and their motives and the full extent of their power is unknown.

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sentry1996 In reply to a54321 [2019-07-15 21:39:58 +0000 UTC]

No I do agree with ya, it was done from the perspective of adults and how horrifying the children are, like the Omen did that brilliantly but I feel BrightBurn didn’t tick all the boxes that the Omen did, I know what you mean and I like the idea behind what BrightBurn went for but I couldn’t help leave the cinema feeling like it could’ve done more with the idea

I liked how at the beginning the story is set up by Brandon’s Wasps and Bees story where you can nearly compare Brandon to his Wasps and Bees story, maybe have Brandon himself develop into a natural psycho like the Maggots in his story turning into predators instead of being brainwashed probably would’ve been better

As for “kid gets bullied and grows up evil” cliche, there’s a reason it’s a cliche, because it happens a lot because humans can be very shitty! In Man of Steel Clark got bullied and had to face some of worst of people but was still able to see past that and look to the good in humanity (despite the fact Zack Snyder made little effort to actual show it) but in reality when someone’s life is full of shit then you become blind to the good, what if Clark Kent too wondered if humanity was even worth saving! While I know MOS Superman would probably never do more then turn a blind eye to humanity, what would someone else someone in his position with his powers and even worse circumstances do? Maybe because he at least has one person he truly cares for (his loving mother?) he at first buries his dark impulses for but something bad happens to her like a cruel prank gone wrong and then nothing stands in his way from finally getting revenge on not only his tormentors, but the world


To conclude; BrightBurn started off as a very interesting idea with lots of potential but the execution could have been done better In my opinion

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a54321 In reply to sentry1996 [2019-07-15 22:45:45 +0000 UTC]

I do understand your criticisms and even agree with some of your points although I still differ on some things:


The brainwashing was basically Brandon getting "activated" like what happens when brood species start taking over an environment. And the idea of nature vs nurture is probably why his species gave him a brainwashing ship. They knew that there was a chance that he could form bonds and attachments with the host species and made sure that in spite of those bonds (such as the ones with his parents, as he's clearly distraught when they try to kill him) his purpose ("take the world") will always come first.


And yes, bullying and people breaking from it does happen a lot. If you're portraying it realistically, a kid with Kryptonian-like powers would start fighting back WAY before the breaking point. That's one of the reasons why the story wouldn't work as well with powers on the level of Brandon's as opposed to powers like Carrie's. Brandon's make him invulnerable even and would make it damn near impossible for kids to push him around (like the trailers had initially implied when showing that PE scene), unless he deliberately allowed it. Punching him would likely break someone's hand.


Social and emotional bullying are, of course, also options and could have worked well for building up to a full on breakdown but then I feel like the writers would literally just be going, "What if Carrie was a Kryptonian instead of having psychic powers?" And ultimately, I think that's why I don't mind (in fact, I even enjoy) that they pulled  switcheroo on what the trailers implied: I like seeing new twists on stories as opposed to just completely rehashed ideas.


Here, the story's question is (as I mentioned in another comment) less "what if Superman became evil" and "what if Goku hadn't been dropped on his head as a baby and remembered that he was supposed to conquer the Earth and its people?" Only here, the child gets a chance to be normal and loved before having all of that stripped away from him by forces outside and beyond his or his family's control.

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sentry1996 In reply to a54321 [2019-07-16 07:33:03 +0000 UTC]

I get what your saying; but BrightBurn all the same could have been better at what did do, Irredeemable comic series is probably one of the best examples of a Superman character going bad, he may have never once bled in his back stories (on one occasion his adopted mother lit him on fire as an innocent baby in order to try kill him because she was insane) but his mental health over years of trial and error of at least trying to do good backfired in the worst ways and he went berserk

Another excellent story I’d recommend is the ongoing webcomic unOrdinary, which is the situation in reverse, a powerless teenager lives in a cruel superhuman society, where power determines your place in life and using your power to help others is looked down on (there a superheroes but they are a minority in this world and are not the focus of the story) the bullying gets bad and when certain character who is stronger then everyone thinks gets mad then things escalate (I don’t want to spoil it, it’s really good, great characters, dialogue, character development, action and story which I recommend it 100%)

BrightBurn could have worked with what I felt was a tribute Cold War stories “I have a soviet sleeper agent in the family” which is a good horror story but BrightBurn relies too much on graphic violence and jumpscares to achieve this. Take those away and there’s not much left,

Sure as you said before; “what’s the story with Brandon’s people?” but the movie never roped me in much to make me care, (although I am curious about the darker versions of the Justice league that appear to be running around in this world)

I would still watch a sequel if one comes out to see where the story that is being told goes at the very least but I just feel underwhelmed so far

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a54321 In reply to sentry1996 [2019-07-16 08:13:51 +0000 UTC]

First, thank you for the story recommendations


And I'll admit, Brightburn certainly isn't perfect (the mystery regarding Brandon's people won't appeal to everyone who doesn't like thinking about the frightening implications and making speculations) but I have to COMPLETELY disagree with you on the idea of it relying "too much on graphic violence and jumpscares." The only point where the violence felt gratuitous to me was when Erica pulls the glass shard out of her eye. In the other scenes, the violence felt more impactful, showing off the horrifying implications and reality of someone with these powers attacking with a complete disregard for the lives of his victims in comparison to what you see with most every incarnation of Superman fighting people. As for jumpscares... I'm gonna be honest, I struggle to even call almost anything in the movie "jumpscares." Granted, this may just be because I never feel like the movie is actually trying to surprise us much with those moments. We can guess a couple of the things that will probably happen and worriedly anticipate it.


I see how the movie was marketed as one of the problems for people going to watch it. Watching the trailers, I can see why some people expected a movie with much more parallels to Man of Steel and Carrie. And coming in expecting one thing and getting something else can be very disappointing. For what the movie actually is though, a short, fun, and creepy thriller with a villain protagonist, it does very well. It's not aiming to be ground breaking or a MASSIVE tidal wave of success that ends up dominating the internet. It's just a fun ride to enjoy that'll maybe have a sequel.


But wherever we fall on our opinions of this, I suppose we can all just be glad that the movie isn't at war with another one like when the DCEU was competing with the MCU and spent much of their time just trying to copy Marvel's ideas, lol XD

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sentry1996 In reply to a54321 [2019-07-16 08:36:14 +0000 UTC]

I’ll hand it to ya, you’re right about it being a bonus that it doesn’t have to compete with Marvel or DC

I guess I’m just at point where horror movies don’t actually scare me anymore so when I see something that I assume was supposed to be a jump scare I mark it down cause to many horrors rely too much on jumpscares, and as for violence I don’t mind, in fact I was originally excited to see just kind of horror this film would use it for! But violence in movies will ultimately serve as a plot device and will come off short if it tries to be the main appeal

I know I’ve been leading ya to think I’m against the actual concept of “evil spaceship and evil alien people” but the mature marvel comics series “supreme power” literally did the same thing where the Superman of the story “Hyperion” (who starts off actually wanting to do good but shit hits the fan) learns from his spaceship that his people may have been unfriendly! In fact the green Lantern of this world “Doctor Spectrum” is born when a piece of the spaceship is fused to hand and gives him powers which later leads him to openly talk out loud like the spaceship from BrightBurn

(Supreme power is also a brilliant read which I recommend)

I guess my standards were too high cause I saw James Gunn’s name on the movie so I went in expecting another “Slither” (a movie written and directed by James Gunn, excellent and horrifying, you’ll love it) it was only after that learned James Gunn only produced the movie and did not write or direct

I would’ve liked to see how James Gunn would’ve tackled this movie, that would have been good

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a54321 In reply to sentry1996 [2019-07-16 09:38:09 +0000 UTC]

If we want something bigger, I think we'd have to wait for a sequel or two. Get an introduction to an Evil version of Batman or Wonder Woman to explore and flesh out the implications of Brandon's reign of terror and other emerging threats. What we got in Brightburn was a set of building blocks for that. Admittedly, I may like the movie as much as I do because it gave me exactly what I had been expecting and looking forward to:


1. A decent horror experience.

2. An unsettling and victorious villain.


So, like we guessed, expectations played a part in our perceptions as well.

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sentry1996 In reply to a54321 [2019-07-16 12:15:28 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I went in expecting too much
but sadly I couldn’t even find the fun in it either
I mean Venom wasn’t great but it was still enjoyable
BrightBurn will probably still be liked enough hopefully for more to come so we’ll see

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a54321 In reply to sentry1996 [2019-07-16 17:39:38 +0000 UTC]

Well, I know I enjoyed it and the movie did end up being quite profitable. So, hopefully, there will be a sequel.

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sentry1996 In reply to a54321 [2019-07-16 19:03:02 +0000 UTC]

yeah, hopefully 

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a54321 In reply to sentry1996 [2019-07-16 21:18:31 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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DOOMENSTEIN In reply to sentry1996 [2019-07-15 16:40:16 +0000 UTC]

You’re fine honestly.

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sentry1996 In reply to DOOMENSTEIN [2019-07-15 16:43:20 +0000 UTC]

Cheers, watch it yourself if you want and have your own opinion, You may enjoy it more then I did👍

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