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*FINISHED! Bit of the RP that inspired this from 10.03.12...If you want to read the rest then its here: [link]
*EDIT 19.04.12 - Many thanks to everyone thats given me feedback! Especially Rydicanubis who did an ace redline on Roc. So the lines on both have been changed and they have their marking too now, they looked a little nekkid without it!
*EDIT 22.03.12 - now with colour
Sooooo I think that with all my efforts to try and get better at backround drawing, I've gotten a bit complacent about getting better drawing actual figures with all their anatomy and textures etc...
so I'm currently trying to do some small pics that focus on characters, no backrounds or anything just to improve/practise my creature doodling.
This is a scene from one of the RPs I did with my windsonde character Milvus [link] , the other gryph is *ErithacusRou 's Roc [link]
If anyone would be kind enough to give me some feedback on the lines before I start colours/textures then I'd really appreciate it!
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Comments: 43
Peppermint334 In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-26 22:19:49 +0000 UTC]
No problem.
I find the way you illustrated them staring at each other represents very well their arrogance for the other.
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IoNekta [2012-04-24 13:02:46 +0000 UTC]
Wow, intense stare down contest. Impressive work on the angle of the image, great work one the shading too!
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wyrd66 [2012-04-23 04:53:08 +0000 UTC]
Whoa, Milvus' wings and especially her tail have turned out great! She is such a pretty girl. Well done!
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to wyrd66 [2012-04-26 15:57:12 +0000 UTC]
thanks wyrd, Thanh and Milvus are next on my list btw, was working on the lines last night.
wont' be as epic and action packed as your rendition of the RP but hopefully it'll be a nice moment
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wyrd66 In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-27 04:24:07 +0000 UTC]
Oh boy! I look forward to it!
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to BeeZee-Art [2012-04-26 15:55:51 +0000 UTC]
thanks very much!
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Regolith247 [2012-04-23 02:33:34 +0000 UTC]
Two of the most epically stubborn gryphons in all of Windsonde having a staring contest. Who will blink first? Tune in next week.....
Seriously though, the pic is awesome, even without a background. Roc has the 'I'm bigger, so I'm right ' expression, and Milvus seems to be saying 'Oh YEAH?'
I had a guy in my squad who was like six foot ten. My arguments with him probably looked a lot like this. Especially the part where Milvus is thinking that she might need to run in a moment....
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to Regolith247 [2012-04-26 15:55:42 +0000 UTC]
hehe roc attacked first, so does he win?
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Regolith247 In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-08-06 00:08:36 +0000 UTC]
Only if he can keep Milvus from getting out into the open air. Otherwise, he's dead meat!
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ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 00:34:16 +0000 UTC]
Wow! They both look absolutely splendid! They look like they're about to tear each other's throats out, haha. I miss the roleplays..
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 00:39:36 +0000 UTC]
have they finished? I thought that they were goign to keep going every sat, I just haven't been to one in ages because I've been on the road
and thanks! Hehe yeah thats kinda the mood I was going for. Roc is awesome to draw, love his colours especially his spots/rings and the dark brown stripe that goes from his chin to his chest
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ErithacusCreations In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-23 01:05:44 +0000 UTC]
I go in the chat every Saturday and on one's in. :C
Haha thanks XD
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 23:54:17 +0000 UTC]
ngh thats a shame, I thought they would still be going when I got back home! =O
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ErithacusCreations In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-24 00:34:19 +0000 UTC]
Not from what I've seen.
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rydicanubis In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 20:54:07 +0000 UTC]
Augh, sorry I know I said I could last Sat, but I ended up bumping into some friends at the bar and we went for a movie.
As of now I do not have any plans for next Sat, hopefully then!
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-24 12:09:43 +0000 UTC]
I am free this sat! Would love to get back into the the windsonde RPs
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rydicanubis In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-27 17:26:00 +0000 UTC]
Arg, sorry, no can do now. Will be at a birthday party tomorrow night.
HOW ABOUT AN IMPROMPTU SESSION TONIGHT INSTEAD? Saturdays just seem to conspire against me...
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-27 20:40:06 +0000 UTC]
I'd be up for that! I'm in now after going to see the avengers will be up all night being over excited on comic forums chatting about it anyway
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rydicanubis In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-27 20:50:19 +0000 UTC]
Oh right, you are over in Europe. I still have a couple hours before I am off work here, but I will hop on after that. :}
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-27 20:56:21 +0000 UTC]
yay! Do you know if anyone else is around tonight up for RPing?
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rydicanubis In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-27 20:58:17 +0000 UTC]
Not that I know yet, which is why I stuck it on the front page there. I will put another comment in the latest journal too.
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ErithacusCreations In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-23 21:00:48 +0000 UTC]
Hopefully haha. It's be a shame if they never happened again.
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rydicanubis In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 21:25:18 +0000 UTC]
Oh I am sure they will. I think it is just a busy time for many people now, with school finishing up, projects due and exams to study for.
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ErithacusCreations In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-23 21:39:10 +0000 UTC]
Oh, yeah, haha...
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rydicanubis In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-27 17:26:26 +0000 UTC]
Urgf... as above, now busy tomorrow night. But what about tonight?
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ErithacusCreations In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-28 00:11:12 +0000 UTC]
Actually sounds good. Haha.
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to SilverVulpine [2012-04-23 00:37:35 +0000 UTC]
thanks silver!
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SilverVulpine In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-23 12:26:20 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome.
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rydicanubis [2012-03-22 23:43:58 +0000 UTC]
Erg, sorry for the uber-delay, been busy!
Did a quick redline on Roc here: [link]
So hard to try to put wing muscles on a feline... this is mostly feline based, just beefed up.
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to rydicanubis [2012-03-23 00:02:15 +0000 UTC]
wow thanks Ry! wasn't expecting any redlines, this is a big help
yeah getting the two musculature systems to work together... is tricky! Rocs front feet are tricky too with the whole 'bare scaly paws' thing going on >.<
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rydicanubis In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-03-23 00:18:56 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I know eh? :S
I love Milvus' wings, such a hard angle, but they look good. I think her butt needs to be a bit taller and narrower though? I guess Scottish Wildcats are fairly beefy, but still, felines in general are pretty rangy.
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-02 14:35:59 +0000 UTC]
thanks! The wings were tricky but they turned out quite nice, yeah I completely agree with her backside being wrong, I'm working on changing it. Its far too low for one thing, needs to come to a narrower peak like you say (although then I'll have to get ride of some of the wing lines I work so hard on! Nooooooo)
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ErithacusCreations [2012-03-22 20:43:44 +0000 UTC]
He's a scary bro! :0 Milvus is in a very hard angle to draw... I feel like her head is a tad large in proportion to her body. Her wings are super, though! I'm not all that great at wings so I know I couldn't pull off that angle.
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-03-22 23:55:04 +0000 UTC]
yeah I switch from thinking either her legs are too short or her head is too big >.< hehe will have to try a re-draw of that I think...
Thanks on Milvus' wings! yeah finding refs for her pose was a PAIN and getting it drawn was tricky! But I will insist on thinking up tough poses...
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ErithacusCreations In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-03-23 00:21:30 +0000 UTC]
A good challenge is never a bad thing. :>
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 00:28:35 +0000 UTC]
Well I think I'm done... hope I captured Roc's badassed-ness!
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LeccathuFurvicael [2012-03-20 15:02:53 +0000 UTC]
Hm.... It's hard for me to add any critique to this! That is a really tough foreshortened perspective on (what I think to be) Milvus, but you've pulled it off well. Milvus looks extremely short compared to Roc, certainly - I thought that Milvus had longer limbs than this? No matter. : ) Also, I was about to mention the chest musculature on Roc, but it seems that the chest is housing some of the flight muscles, leading to the larger breast in front of the forelimbs (I should know plenty about having flight muscles in front of forelimbs with my dragons XP). I think this is a pretty solid base to work from, Shadow! Good work!
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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to LeccathuFurvicael [2012-03-21 20:24:29 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for this Lecca! you are a star
Yeah Milvus' pose I struggled with, there are few pictures with wing/back leg references from this angle I found >.< luckily I dug one wing ref out of my own photos that just about works.
Milvus is meant to be small compared to Roc, he's a head taller than her because he's MASSIVE! she's small but agile
in theory. I do switch between thinking the leg proportions are ok on her and thinking they are too short... might make the curve of her rump a bit higher.
Rocs chest... yeah another tricky bit! lol it was all alot harder than I thought it would be tbh... >.< combining big cat chest muscles and flight ones is hard! think I should make the collar bone smaller/angled with the muscles leading down from the shoulder... will play with it and see what it looks like.
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