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Shadow-and-Flame-86 — Milvus and Roc - Intimidation

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Description *FINISHED! Bit of the RP that inspired this from 10.03.12...

"I can't say I like the fighting... I left Grandesque before the war, you know." He took a seat, his tail twitching. "And my father was born of Skrekrill; he approved of my departure. I hold much respect for his upbringing. He found his purpose in Grandesque with my mother, and I hope to find mine here. To say that this war was of totally of our cause, though... If you slept a night in this land, you would understand. Most Skrekrill aren't evil." He stood to his full height to intimidate Milvus. "But we will fight to live." He snapped at Bernie with his hooked beak. "Arrogance! Honor is nothing. Cause is everything!" His body began to tense up. He was becoming angry.
Bernyll: Brought up short by Roc's outburst, Bernie narrowed his eyes. Stupid traitor, what did he think he was? "Milvus? I'm going to get some Grandesques and bring them here, they should be notified that the Skrekrill are coming as well." Hoping and praying that Milvus could take care of Roc, Bernie set off, desperately trying not to turn back and butcher the lion-gryph. I'm not ready, not yet. Just watch you stupid Skrekrills, I'll grow up and be the biggest baddass you've ever feared. Nothing can stop my awesomeness, just you wait and see. Calling out, "Milvus! Don't kill him until I get back, I want to pummel his ugly beak first!"
Bernyll was not helping the situation. He was gone before Milvus could respond to his parting statement, more Grandesques… that would help everything surely? But in reality how could it be helped? What was she hoping to accomplish with this confrontation? The same sick disbelief that had flooded her when she first learnt of Roc’s defection was starting to overcome her anger. “Cause Roc? What cause can justify this? Not matter what wrongs you fight to correct or beliefs you try to uphold, it is the ACTIONS you take which truly matter! If Skrekrill takes no joy in such destruction, like you say, then surely there must have been another way, anything other than this.” The eagle gryph loomed over her, he was at least a head taller than her and Gods only knows how much heavier. He would destroy her in a fight on the ground. Still, she met his gaze, she was not afraid of him.
Roc prepared his body to pounce. "You wouldn't understand. Grandesque... Too lazy. Order, purpose, power... I will kill if I am told to. I'll kill you too. With dignity in blood." A low rumble prepared itself in his chest. "It will be a good death. Honorable for a Grandesque." There was blood even in his gaze now.
Milvus knew the fight was coming now. Roc was crouched low, ready to attack, his entire body tensed for the coming struggle. Milvus felt hatred start to burn in her chest, “dignity in blood? If you had ‘partaken in the fighting’ Roc, you would know that there is no such thing. Blood is cheap, and easily spilt. Any mindless brute can maul another to death. If you had fought, for your true aery, or for you new one, you would know this! And you DARE call me lazy! That I have no purpose!? There may be weakness in Grandesque, those that have no direction and purpose, but it only means you should be strong, and carve out your own!” Milvus tried to block the fear and sadness that edged into her mind. She was going to die. Wounded, outnumbered and over-powered, she could not win this fight. She would never see her family again… Snarling she sought the rage that got her through all her other battles. Roc was not a friend, this was not a misunderstanding, he was one of THEM and she was not down yet!

If you want to read the rest then its here: [link]

*EDIT 19.04.12 - Many thanks to everyone thats given me feedback! Especially Rydicanubis who did an ace redline on Roc. So the lines on both have been changed and they have their marking too now, they looked a little nekkid without it!

*EDIT 22.03.12 - now with colour

Sooooo I think that with all my efforts to try and get better at backround drawing, I've gotten a bit complacent about getting better drawing actual figures with all their anatomy and textures etc...

so I'm currently trying to do some small pics that focus on characters, no backrounds or anything just to improve/practise my creature doodling.

This is a scene from one of the RPs I did with my windsonde character Milvus [link] , the other gryph is *ErithacusRou 's Roc [link]

If anyone would be kind enough to give me some feedback on the lines before I start colours/textures then I'd really appreciate it!
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Comments: 43

Peppermint334 [2012-04-25 23:38:48 +0000 UTC]

Nice!

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to Peppermint334 [2012-04-26 15:58:50 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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Peppermint334 In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-26 22:19:49 +0000 UTC]

No problem.
I find the way you illustrated them staring at each other represents very well their arrogance for the other.

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IoNekta [2012-04-24 13:02:46 +0000 UTC]

Wow, intense stare down contest. Impressive work on the angle of the image, great work one the shading too!

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to IoNekta [2012-04-26 15:57:23 +0000 UTC]

thanks very much!

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wyrd66 [2012-04-23 04:53:08 +0000 UTC]

Whoa, Milvus' wings and especially her tail have turned out great! She is such a pretty girl. Well done!

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to wyrd66 [2012-04-26 15:57:12 +0000 UTC]

thanks wyrd, Thanh and Milvus are next on my list btw, was working on the lines last night.

wont' be as epic and action packed as your rendition of the RP but hopefully it'll be a nice moment

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wyrd66 In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-27 04:24:07 +0000 UTC]

Oh boy! I look forward to it!

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BeeZee-Art [2012-04-23 04:23:07 +0000 UTC]

The perspective on the tail is really cool.

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to BeeZee-Art [2012-04-26 15:55:51 +0000 UTC]

thanks very much!

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Regolith247 [2012-04-23 02:33:34 +0000 UTC]

Two of the most epically stubborn gryphons in all of Windsonde having a staring contest. Who will blink first? Tune in next week.....
Seriously though, the pic is awesome, even without a background. Roc has the 'I'm bigger, so I'm right ' expression, and Milvus seems to be saying 'Oh YEAH?'

I had a guy in my squad who was like six foot ten. My arguments with him probably looked a lot like this. Especially the part where Milvus is thinking that she might need to run in a moment....

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to Regolith247 [2012-04-26 15:55:42 +0000 UTC]

hehe roc attacked first, so does he win?

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Regolith247 In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-08-06 00:08:36 +0000 UTC]

Only if he can keep Milvus from getting out into the open air. Otherwise, he's dead meat!

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ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 00:34:16 +0000 UTC]

Wow! They both look absolutely splendid! They look like they're about to tear each other's throats out, haha. I miss the roleplays..

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 00:39:36 +0000 UTC]

have they finished? I thought that they were goign to keep going every sat, I just haven't been to one in ages because I've been on the road

and thanks! Hehe yeah thats kinda the mood I was going for. Roc is awesome to draw, love his colours especially his spots/rings and the dark brown stripe that goes from his chin to his chest

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ErithacusCreations In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-23 01:05:44 +0000 UTC]

I go in the chat every Saturday and on one's in. :C

Haha thanks XD

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 23:54:17 +0000 UTC]

ngh thats a shame, I thought they would still be going when I got back home! =O

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ErithacusCreations In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-24 00:34:19 +0000 UTC]

Not from what I've seen.

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rydicanubis In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 20:54:07 +0000 UTC]

Augh, sorry I know I said I could last Sat, but I ended up bumping into some friends at the bar and we went for a movie.
As of now I do not have any plans for next Sat, hopefully then!

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-24 12:09:43 +0000 UTC]

I am free this sat! Would love to get back into the the windsonde RPs

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rydicanubis In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-27 17:26:00 +0000 UTC]

Arg, sorry, no can do now. Will be at a birthday party tomorrow night.
HOW ABOUT AN IMPROMPTU SESSION TONIGHT INSTEAD? Saturdays just seem to conspire against me...

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-27 20:40:06 +0000 UTC]

I'd be up for that! I'm in now after going to see the avengers will be up all night being over excited on comic forums chatting about it anyway

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rydicanubis In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-27 20:50:19 +0000 UTC]

Oh right, you are over in Europe. I still have a couple hours before I am off work here, but I will hop on after that. :}

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-27 20:56:21 +0000 UTC]

yay! Do you know if anyone else is around tonight up for RPing?

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rydicanubis In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-27 20:58:17 +0000 UTC]

Not that I know yet, which is why I stuck it on the front page there. I will put another comment in the latest journal too.

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ErithacusCreations In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-23 21:00:48 +0000 UTC]

Hopefully haha. It's be a shame if they never happened again.

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rydicanubis In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 21:25:18 +0000 UTC]

Oh I am sure they will. I think it is just a busy time for many people now, with school finishing up, projects due and exams to study for.

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ErithacusCreations In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-23 21:39:10 +0000 UTC]

Oh, yeah, haha...

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rydicanubis In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-27 17:26:26 +0000 UTC]

Urgf... as above, now busy tomorrow night. But what about tonight?

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ErithacusCreations In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-28 00:11:12 +0000 UTC]

Actually sounds good. Haha.

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SilverVulpine [2012-04-22 23:57:58 +0000 UTC]

Very cool indeed.

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to SilverVulpine [2012-04-23 00:37:35 +0000 UTC]

thanks silver!

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SilverVulpine In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-04-23 12:26:20 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome.

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rydicanubis [2012-03-22 23:43:58 +0000 UTC]

Erg, sorry for the uber-delay, been busy!
Did a quick redline on Roc here: [link]
So hard to try to put wing muscles on a feline... this is mostly feline based, just beefed up.

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to rydicanubis [2012-03-23 00:02:15 +0000 UTC]

wow thanks Ry! wasn't expecting any redlines, this is a big help

yeah getting the two musculature systems to work together... is tricky! Rocs front feet are tricky too with the whole 'bare scaly paws' thing going on >.<

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rydicanubis In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-03-23 00:18:56 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I know eh? :S
I love Milvus' wings, such a hard angle, but they look good. I think her butt needs to be a bit taller and narrower though? I guess Scottish Wildcats are fairly beefy, but still, felines in general are pretty rangy.

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to rydicanubis [2012-04-02 14:35:59 +0000 UTC]

thanks! The wings were tricky but they turned out quite nice, yeah I completely agree with her backside being wrong, I'm working on changing it. Its far too low for one thing, needs to come to a narrower peak like you say (although then I'll have to get ride of some of the wing lines I work so hard on! Nooooooo)

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ErithacusCreations [2012-03-22 20:43:44 +0000 UTC]

He's a scary bro! :0 Milvus is in a very hard angle to draw... I feel like her head is a tad large in proportion to her body. Her wings are super, though! I'm not all that great at wings so I know I couldn't pull off that angle.

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-03-22 23:55:04 +0000 UTC]

yeah I switch from thinking either her legs are too short or her head is too big >.< hehe will have to try a re-draw of that I think...

Thanks on Milvus' wings! yeah finding refs for her pose was a PAIN and getting it drawn was tricky! But I will insist on thinking up tough poses...

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ErithacusCreations In reply to Shadow-and-Flame-86 [2012-03-23 00:21:30 +0000 UTC]

A good challenge is never a bad thing. :>

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to ErithacusCreations [2012-04-23 00:28:35 +0000 UTC]

Well I think I'm done... hope I captured Roc's badassed-ness!

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LeccathuFurvicael [2012-03-20 15:02:53 +0000 UTC]

Hm.... It's hard for me to add any critique to this! That is a really tough foreshortened perspective on (what I think to be) Milvus, but you've pulled it off well. Milvus looks extremely short compared to Roc, certainly - I thought that Milvus had longer limbs than this? No matter. : ) Also, I was about to mention the chest musculature on Roc, but it seems that the chest is housing some of the flight muscles, leading to the larger breast in front of the forelimbs (I should know plenty about having flight muscles in front of forelimbs with my dragons XP). I think this is a pretty solid base to work from, Shadow! Good work!

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Shadow-and-Flame-86 In reply to LeccathuFurvicael [2012-03-21 20:24:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for this Lecca! you are a star

Yeah Milvus' pose I struggled with, there are few pictures with wing/back leg references from this angle I found >.< luckily I dug one wing ref out of my own photos that just about works.

Milvus is meant to be small compared to Roc, he's a head taller than her because he's MASSIVE! she's small but agile in theory. I do switch between thinking the leg proportions are ok on her and thinking they are too short... might make the curve of her rump a bit higher.

Rocs chest... yeah another tricky bit! lol it was all alot harder than I thought it would be tbh... >.< combining big cat chest muscles and flight ones is hard! think I should make the collar bone smaller/angled with the muscles leading down from the shoulder... will play with it and see what it looks like.

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