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Published: 2011-02-22 15:35:49 +0000 UTC; Views: 38883; Favourites: 5476; Downloads: 1183
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I saw this in the Group Description of #Depression-victims and asked if I could make it into a Stamp, and was given permission to do so.For
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If you have something to say, please limit it to critique on the stamp itself, not the message behind it. I have no associating with the Group, I simply thought it was a nice statement and converted it into a stamp.
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Comments: 639
LOl, I love this comment
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I find this moving stamp pic to be very inspiring for those who suffer from depression and those who don't by opening the eyes to a more positive life.
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I like the message, and the stamp is well made, the fade looks really good, and I can't make a good gif stamp, so I can't think of the work that needs to go into this kind of thing.
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once you know what you want to put in its a 10 mins job.
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Well received- I abhor stamps and ideas that promote that suffering from depression or attempting suicide is some display of weakness. Its a gross mentality to have, and this is a beautiful stamp for expressing the truth.
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My mother's family has a history of depression.
And as far as I know, none of them are weak people. And neither am I. It just... slaps you in the face.
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although the reasons for depression vary among those who experience it, I'd like to just say, having gone through a slight depression stage (I'm currently healing), this stamp means a lot to me and has some truths behind it. a lot of people may not take depression victims seriously, but it is painful like any physical sickness.
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I understand that the messages on stamps tend to spark unwanted debates, but you do realize the message is the entire point behind stamps, right?
Not wanting us to comment on the stamp's message is essentially telling us not to comment at all.
Also, I don't think the group you're quoting was the original author of this phrase - I've heard it before, at least several years ago, while the group was founded 6 months ago.
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all i wanted to say is thank you for making this stamp. The statement is very meaningful
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The stamp is awesome and very well made. The message is strong and really stands out. Thank you for making it. You're spreading a great message through an excellent method.
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Oh wow... ...Thank you... This made me smile. Thank you is all I can really think of to say
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aw i think its great that people do stuff like this to surrport deppresion victims
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I think it's a great idea to put this on a stamp, I know too many people who think depression is just an excuse for being a bit down or feeling a bit ill or being to lazy to do anything. Thank you.
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Great stamp. I like the colour scheme and it's a wonderful message.
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hey depressed people, stop it now
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Good lord. People need to learn to read artist's description.
It's a well done stamp. Colors aren't too bright, just enough time in between changing frames to read the words. I like the emphasis on the parallel antonyms as well. Good job.
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no the fuck it isn't. congrats for making the plain weak kind of depressed people feel even less worthy :')
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Weakness? You've never experienced depression.
A problem doesn't make people depressed. Problem after problem after problem with nobody to support you, THAT makes people depressed.
If you'd suddenly, for whatever reason, being bullied for example and had no friends, after a few years, you'd be depressed, too.
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You can't define what makes people depressed as some become depressed for no reason, and that's very important to remember. You don't have to suffer from some great trauma to become depressed.
Depression, when it comes down to it, is a chemical imbalance in the brain, which can be caused by any contributing factor, not neccessarily a negative experience.
Some people who experience depression feel confused as there is no particular reason for their illness and therefore feel almost guilty and confused for suffering.
Every induvidual sufferer is different, you cannot generalise it.
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I know that. Actually, I have a friend being depressed for physical, not mental reasons, and it always makes me sad to see how people see the divorce of his parents as the reason for his depression (while he had depressions already when they were still together). So I entirely agree with what you said.
I was just thinking that person above me said that people with depressions are losers, and that made me angry. And if life treats you like crap permanently, even strong people will finally fall - I just wanted to point that out to prove that depressions aren't only a 'losers-thing' but could happen to everybody.
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All I'm saying is not all depressed people are strong. I'm not saying people are depressed because they're "weak", but I personally don't think I'm very strong - while I have reason enough to believe I am depressed - and this kind of definition makes me feel like I'm not even "good enough" to have this condition - a condition that in itself includes a lot of not feeling good enough.
Also, not all the support in the world can keep someone from becoming depressed, and while direct problems such as bullying are a common cause of depression, not all people have such an obvious cause behind it.
Of course, it's possible that you're right about my mental state, which probably makes any argument I make categorically null.
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I wasn't going to make any statement about your mental state, I'm sorry. There was just a large misunderstanding here - I thought you were saying that people who got depressions are weak, and that got me rather angry. Glad to hear you didn't mean it that way
I know that not all people who have depressions are strong. I wouldn't consider myself strong, I did have depressions a few years ago though.
Then again... You know, often back then, I thought I was weak. Still think that today a lot. But on the other hand, sometimes I think, if other people would have gone through what I had to go through, maybe they wouldn't be as helpful/good at school/normal/whatever anymore as I still am. I think it's just a matter of the way you look at things.
Again, if I made you feel bad in any way, I truly didn't mean to do that 
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that's alright, I understand where you're coming from - it's sort of funny, I thought you were going all "you're not depressed you loser" on me...
nah, I only see a loser with depression in myself. I like to protect my right to be a loser, though.
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You kow... right now, I'm wondering if humans can actually be losers. I mean - what would make a loser out of anybody?
I knew a girl at school who was too lazy to finish school... She wasn't dumb or overwhelmed, she was just lazy and went partying rather than studying even a little. Probably she's the person closest to being a 'loser' in my eyes from all the people I've ever met. She's still a human being with feelings though.
But other than that... I really wouldn't know what makes people a 'loser'. I sometimes find wrong what people do or don't do, but that doesn't make them being losers, they just have a different way of living.
I can understand what you mean though 
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Hey now...it's not "weakness", it's just a different capacity for dealing with problems. Something in the "plain weak kind of depressed people"s lives caused them to have a more difficult time "sucking it up" but that doesn't mean they're weak. So long as they at least tried to deal with it means they aren't weak.
It's also debatable that the ones who have been "strong for too long" are weak because they broke down into depression.
and I mean absolutely no offense. I'm just giving alternate ways to look at it. I know what it's like to be depressed, trust me.
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that sounds slightly like a PC wording of the same thing, but yeah. And not all weakness is bad. I get what whoever came up with this meant (ie. you can't just "suck it up") but I don't quite agree with the sentiment.
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As I said, I was just offering another view in case you hadn't really considered it. Thank you for being polite
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congrats on not reading the artists comment.
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while I agree that my comment was unsolicited, I believe it reasonable to expect the artist to stand behind the statement, even if he wasn't the one to come up with it.
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Ok, you do have a point - one really would expect, if a person puts effort and time into making such a stamp, that this person does not simply think "it's cool", but instead really stands behind it.
If the inital wording would have been like this, followed up by what you then said, I bet you would have found lots of supporters instead of criticism
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I had the follow-up prepared pretty much as soon as I had posted the original comment, but unfortunately the knee comes jerking before the head even gets a chance
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I don't get how people don't understand what this means. It screams loud and clear to me.
And it's true. So very true.
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WAT. depression is a condition u could both get with reasons and without. But people should take care of their problems instead of whining about them. There are people to talk to and pills to take. Paople who stand strong instead of fixing their problems are quite foolish.
just my opionion.
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WAT. depression is a condition u could both get with reasons and without. But people should take care of their problems instead of whining about them. There are people to talk to and pills to take. Paople who stand strong instead of fixing their problems are quite foolish.
just my opionion.
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Depression is a condition that is caused by many different reasons; from mental trauma; to chemical imbalances in the body etc etc. So some could have reasons due to 'experience' in their lives; and some could supposedly have no 'reason' whatsoever; and it's all down to the hormonal/chemical inbalances in their bodies.
By telling people to 'stop whining' about their problems just stifles the person; and it will only worsen their condition.
It's all fair and easy to say to someone 'get help', or 'sort out your problems yourself' or 'go take some pills', but this alone is the first step to 'recovery'. For some; it's not that easy; and can seem like a daunting task in itself; because this alone means coming to terms with their problems.
Yes; there are some that piss and moan and whine about the most trivial of things; and do this purely for the attention of others, but this is not the case for those with the true medical condition that is depression.
It can be a dangerous thing; and sometimes it rears it's ugly head completely unprovoked! I know this first hand; and where there are some days/weeks/months where I'll be absolutely fine; there are other times where I'll hit a dangerous low; and I find I'm questioning my worth; my existence etc and I'm reminded all over again that I have this condition.
It's a demon I've had to deal with for more then a decade of my life, and once I reached the suicidal tide; I decided to get put on pills. I also knew how intense my problems were considering when I spoke to the Councillor; her reaction was not what I was expecting.
When I was taking the pills... For me... they did nothing. They made me lethargic; they tampered with my short term memory; and all in all I was still stressed and upset as I was when I wasn't on them. The only thing that stopped me from delving deeper into depression was in fact; me, and my own mental fortitude.
I fought through the severe part of my depression on my own; mainly because a lot of people had your opinion of 'go get pills; they'll make you better and stop you whining', and as such whenever I just needed someone to talk to; or just someone to talk to me... I had no one because they just weren't interested; so I learnt to deal with it myself; and as such; I came out stronger.
People can go get pills and go counseling; I'm not saying it doesn't help; because for most it does. For me; it didn't work at all.
Depression is diverse as it is complex, and not everything has a 'quick fix'. As you say; it can take years, but some people rely on these methods instead of looking in themselves and trying to deal with their demons themselves. They don't bother to find ways to keep their depression at bay whenever it creeps up; and instead run to their pills and their Councillor's whenever they hit a low.
Pills and Councillor's are vital for some... But they are not always the answer for everyone, and they shouldn't be looked upon as the only solution, as such; there are in fact some of us that rely on our inner strength; not pills, and personally I can say it's the best solution I have experienced.
Just my opinion.
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You clearly have no idea what real depressions are.
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Neither do you "Depressions" Are areas that are lower than the surrounding areas. A valleys are depressions in the countryside, etc. It isn't a plural. The condition is just called depression.
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My native tongue is not English. I would say the lack of knowledge here does not mean I lack knowledge of everything else as well. In German, Swissgerman and French there is a plural of the word Depression. It is rather astonishing that this does not exist in English.
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I dont? All I know is that many people suffers in vain. And that being "strong" and holding out usally means a worse state.
Problems are never easy. Some more horrible than others, but to stop looking for a solutions sounds like giving up to me. If you are having problems that makes you sad more often than not, then some may have a chance to get better without becoming depressed.
Am i really that wrong?
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Actually, yes. You are wrong. You can be living the perfect happy life and still be depressed to a degree that turns you suicidal. Depressions and problems do not necessarily belong to each other.
Depressions are not something you can just *solve* and get rid of.
And... I would say it's rather bold to say depressed people suffer in vain.
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Oh sure, throwing in pills is THE solution!
And sometimes you don't have any other option than being strong, did you ever think about that? Just a simple example: We nearly lost an important member of our family last year. I was devastated. But I had to be strong because my mother was crying all the time and she doesn't have anybody else than me, so I had to be strong and support her.
I don't have depressions, but I don't think it's fair to judge people as 'foolish' just because they had nobody to help them.
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Im sorry if u dont know that some depression is caused by the brain itself, and is actually cureable- if sometimes difficult and can take years.
Loss on the other hand, doesnt mean you will become depressed. Sad yes. Very sad?
Does that mean you are depressed? No.
Just a taste of life.
Uncontrolably sad? Then it might be good to seek help.
Support from family members are not always enough to get back on your own two feet. There are means that can help you get better faster, Like to discuss what the problem really is with a professional. Just to take it off your chest.
Ive got a few family members that were really depressed. One of them under the duration of ten years, she just got better... all it took was a change of medication. PILLs her new doctor recommended.
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Listen, dear:
First, one sad event in your life won't make you depressed. But if you are alone and experience bad/tragic things again and again and again, you will finally become depressed. Of course there are depressions caused by physical reasons. But the majority of them is still caused by mental reasons.
And I want to ask you one question: You said you have several family members that had depressions. Did you tell them, too, that they should stop whining and that they are foolish?
I know a few people that had depressions - and they were definitely caused by their miserable life, by being beaten by their parents or being worth nothing in the eyes of their family who were supposed to love them.
Now let's just stay with the example of the abused child: If a child was being abused for fifteen years, with nobody to care about them or to help them, do you think such a person will simply be able to ask for help? From strangers even more, when they couldn't even trust the people closest to them?
I agree that talking to a professioal is the best thing to do, but you know, if things were that simple, this world wouldn't have millions of people with depressions.
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