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The battle between Young Justice, plus the past Titans, and the H.I.V.E. Five-Hundred may have been intense but Garguax merely watched with enjoyment from his self-made throne; like a spectator at a Roman coliseum.

Right away when the fight started Robin had pulled out one of his staffs and began fighting with the older Killer Moth and Johnny Rancid. Killer Moth used his sharp claws and kept swiping at Robin, only for him to miss each time while Robin avoided taking hit from Rancid’s chain he kept swinging and wiping at him. With enough hits to the face and stomach that Robin managed to make while fighting, Killer Moth went down leaving Johnny Rancid left to call on a few H.I.V.E. bots for help.

Blizzard, using his power suit, fired a stream of ice at Arrowette who jumped out of the way before being frozen. He fired another stream just as she fired an explosive arrow that hit it mid-air. The explosion knocked Blizzard down before he got up, only to be struck with an arrow with a boxing glove at the end of it.

He fell down, knocked-out, while Arrowette laughed a little and said “And they said the boxing glove arrow was a stupid idea.”

Batman threw a number of batarangs that either hit or landed close to a number of H.I.V.E. bots close to General Immortus. None of them had time to react before all of the devices exploded around them, destroying the bots while burying Immortus in the junk remains and helpless to move anywhere. Batman didn’t have time to celebrate when he was tackled from behind by Woof. Batman managed to shake him off and get to his feet before the hyena-humanoid stared him down and growled as he was ready to attack. Batman only gave a loud whistle that summoned Ace, who leapt from behind and tackled the now frightened Woof to the ground.

Seeing Ace handling Woof on his own Batman smirked and said “Good dog.”

Nightstar fired at a few more H.I.V.E. bots, destroying them, just before avoided an attack from Shimmer. The two fired at each other again before Shimmer managed to send a blast that hit a pipe behind Nightstar, exploded and sending her out of the air.

While Nightstar tried to stand up Shimmer stood over her, her hand charged with her energy ready to give another blast, as she said “You stink just as bad as the other one.”

Before she could Starfire hit her with a crippling starbolt from behind that made her fall down. Nightstar took a moment to realize what had happened before smiling and getting to her feet.

Before she did she heard Star say “Never lay your hands upon my daughter again.” Before she helped her too her feet.

Nightstar merely said “Thanks…..mom.” before taking a moment to comment “It feels so weird saying that to you right now.”

Star smiled at this before hearing the fighting going on and suggested “Perhaps we should save this conversation until after the battle.”

Nightstar nodded before both ran back into battle.

Disruptor charged his suit ready for another large shockwave attack, as he called “Getting ready for another hurting, justice dwebs!”

Just as he did however Kai-Ro created a shield around him so that when he unleashed his energy all of it bounced off and stuck him instead. The vibration was so much it cracked the shield but Disruptor was shell-shocked by the force he fell down to the ground, practically vibrating from the sudden backlash of his own attack.

Kai-Ro looked over him and said “Now you know how it feels.” He turned to fly off to fight more before looking back and commenting “By the way: ‘dwebs’? Way too early century insult.”

Neutron flew in from above and fired at a few of the heroes. He laughed as they either jumped away, like Arrowette, or tried to block it, like Kai-Ro. As he primed both hands for a bigger attack Cyborg, who was below him, grabbed his leg and pulled him down. The now panicking villain gave a yelp of fright as the helmet to his suit was ripped off and Cyborg, with one hand, pulled him out by the head. Neutron was now revealed as the skinny little teen punk that he was underneath, in nothing but his boxers.

Cyborg, smirking at this, held him eye-to-eye and said “didn’t your mother ever tell you not to play with dangerous power suits?”

With him posing no more threats Cyborg tossed him away while firing his new body’s massive arm cannon at more H.I.V.E. bots. Each of them went down easily with one stream actually going through several and destroying them with little effort.

“Man have I missed this!” Cyborg said with a smile as he kept fighting more H.I.V.E. bots.

Seeing as his forces were dwindling Garguax, now worrying, looked over to Gizmo and said “Hurry! Finish the repairs, you fool!”

Gizmo, still working as fast as he could, said “I’m trying! I’m trying!”

Garguax turned back to the fight only to gasp with surprise as Batman was standing in front of his throne and saying “Time to pay up for all the crimes you caused, Garguax.”

Garguax merely smirked and said “That will never happen, my boy. Any more than the day you think you’ll be anything like the original Batman.”

The Batman of this time kept a stern look as he said “You’re right. I WON’T be the same as him.”

Garguax felt worried by that line and shrank a little in his seat. However before Batman could touch him Wykkd appeared from behind him and attacked, Batman noticing this in time and blocking it before the two began a hand-to-hand fight.

Impulse used his super speed to zoom past a number of H.I.V.E. bots that all fell apart the moment he passed them. What he was really doing was pulling out key parts to their bodies to force them to fall apart without them.

He stopped and looked back before commenting “Don’t you hate when toys break so easily?”

Before he could zip off to fight anymore he was stopped when Siren used her scream to force his to his knees as he covered his ears. She screamed loud enough that he was almost knocked back by the force of it. With Impulse down Siren used her powers and summoned water from the nearby pipes that culminated into a giant stream of water that went from her towards him. Before it could hit Impulse however Osiris landed in front of him and held his hands out. As the water touched his hands Osiris gave a roar before unleashing electricity from them that flowed through the water to Siren. She was shocked by this so much she looked frizzled to the point of being fried.

Siren fell and Osiris turned and helped Impulse to his feet asking “Are you alright?”

“Yeah. I am.” He said as he realized what Osiris did. “Thanks for that.”

Osiris nodded before saying “What good is a man without friends after all.”

Impulse smiled at this before both heard as Mammoth came roaring towards them. Impulse zipped away while Osiris braced himself. However Mammoth was merely as distraction as Atlas came from behind and grabbed from behind. To make matters worse a number of H.I.V.E. bots also joined in the fight as Osiris was being pummeled while trying to fight back.

Robin finally managed to knock down Johnny Rancid with a hit to the back of the head. Before he could do anything else Goldilocks attacked from behind, using her living hair coils to constrict around his limbs and body.

Batman had just managed to fight off Wykkd, with help from Kai-Ro and Cyborg who came in to help, before seeing this himself.

As Robins struggled Goldilocks laughed and said “What do you think, Robin? Is my hair killer or what?”

Batman threw a handful of batarangs that cut a good portion of the locks that were trapping Robin. Goldilocks yelled with disgust, seeing what happened to her hair, before Robin managed to free himself and jump over to land next to Batman.

Holding another batarang at the ready he said “Either the attitude is cut, Goldilocks, or more of your hair goes instead.”

“Ha!” she said with a defiant pose. “You think you scare me, bat-freak? Go ahead. Hit me with your best shot.”

He smirked at this and said “You asked for it.” Before throwing the batarang.

Instead of hitting her it tangled in her hair and did nothing, both Goldilocks and Robin expecting something. She merely smirked while Robin scratched his head confused by this.

“What was that supposed to do?” he asked.

“She wanted me to give her my best.” Batman began to explain. “It’s a sonar frequency generating device. It’s at such a high pitch and range we can’t hear it.” Batman suddenly held up another small device with a button on it before saying “But something else can.”

Batman pushed the button which opened a hidden container inside of his batmobile. It unleashed a swarm of bats, all screeching as they flew towards Goldilocks who was screaming in terror at the sight of them swarming around her.

As both watched Goldilocks screaming in fear as the bats still flew around her, Robin looked to this new age batman and said “Not bad. Got to remember to use that at some point.”

“Be sure you do.” Batman commented. “You’re the one who thought it up.”

Robin looked to him, confused at first, before seeing Batman smirking at him. Robin smirked as well, seeing what was meant by this, before both went back to the fight at hand.

For a moment Osiris seemed to have the upper hand as he tossed a few of the H.I.V.E. bots and Atlas off of him. However this was only temporary as Mammoth smashed him from behind before he fell, Atlas, Mammoth and the bots all dog piling on him.

As Osiris struggled with the combined weight on him Mammoth said “Ha! So much for the mighty Osiris, eh? You got all that power and you can’t do a thing with it, can you?”

Hearing this Osiris stopped struggling, at first giving into Mammoth’s taunts, before saying “There is one thing I can do.” And then giving a powerful cry with the next word he spoke.

“SHAZAM!”

A bolt of magic lighting came from out of nowhere, striking down in the middle of the pile of villains and H.I.V.E. bots right onto Osiris. The explosion was so great, and the boom of thunder so loud, everyone looked away from the amount of power unleashed. When everything cleared Arrowette, the closest nearby, looked to see all the H.I.V.E. bots destroyed while Mammoth and Atlas laid out cold from the powerful electric shock they received.

She soon saw what she knew was Osiris and ran over to help him, only to see the real him without the magic blessings of his powers. He still had the same face only his body was different, as well as his clothes which looked normal. His arms and torso were less muscular and he didn’t have the same royal air about him now. Arrowette looked down and then realized that Osiris’ left leg was bent, looking as if it were preeminently broken.

Osiris looked up to her as she kneeled down next to him and said “Now you see me for what I really am: just another human.” He sighed and looked away saying “Robin was right. I’m nothing without my powers.”

Arrowette however commented with “That’s not what I see.” Making him look to her and smile as she returned the gesture as well.

The other members of Young Justice and Starfire managed to defeat the last of the H.I.V.E. bots, Robin and Batman seeing this for themselves. All with the exception of Arrowette and Osiris regrouped with them as they all looked to the last villain to deal with: Garguax.

“It’s down to you, Garguax.” Nightstat said, standing as leader with the rest of the heroes. “Either we do this the easy way or the hard way.”

“Please go with the second one.” Impulse said, looking ready to fight as much as the others.

Garguax sneered as he stood from his throne and said “I suppose I have to do everything myself. Don’t I? Oh well.”

After taking a few steps from his throne Garguax pulled off the robe he was wearing. It revealed his fat body underneath which, after taking a second to realize, the heroes found there was more than fat to him but muscle. He was practically a green flesh tank ready to pummel as he cracked his knuckles.

“Come along, children.” He said as he stood ready to fight. “Time for a little lessoning!”

With that he charged towards them, each step he took actually causing vibration in the ground underneath them. He managed to jump high before brining himself down towards them, all the heroes scattering before being crushed.

Nightstar and Starfire, floating close in front of him, began to barrage him with starbolts. Instead of damaging him Garguax held his arms up in defense and proved that his skin was thick enough to withstand their attacks. After a moment he reached out and grabbed one of their legs before spinning them around and throwing them across the room.

Impulse zipped around him and punched as fast as his super speed could keep up. As he did he realized that punching Garguax was like punching a cushion of meat, even to where the alien crime lord laughed at how it did nothing to him. Impulse stopped and realized how his plan was working before Garguax turned towards him and with a powerful flick of his fingers knocked him back.

Cyborg rushed up from behind and roared as he tried to swing his fist towards Garguax’s head. The big alien however turned in time and caught his fist, revealing he had strength to match with his weight. Cyborg was surprised by this while Garguax wagged his finger at him before giving a hard punch to the cyber-chin. Cyborg stumbled back and primed his arm cannon only for Garguax to grab it and point it up before punching him dead center of his chest to make him fly back.

Kai-Ro flew in and used his lantern powers to create a cage around Garguax. The alien laughed at this before using his strength to break the parts, shattering the construct. He was hit from behind with a kick from Batman, who’d snuck up on him. The alien turned and blocked a few more hits before managing to grab Batman by the head and toss him towards Kai-Ro. The two collided before Kai-Ro created a giant pillow for them to land on with his powers.

Ace had even tried attacking Garguax at one point. The big dog came rushing towards him and barking loudly. He leapt towards Garguax before the alien ducked away Ace charged in and then tackled Garguax only for him to grab the mutant dog by the leash and hurl him away to land near Cyborg.

“I should’ve done this a long time ago.” He said. “To think you children proved any sort of threat to me.”

He heard as Robin yelled when he came in from behind, swinging his staff at him when he did. Garugax held his arm in defense, blocking the attack, before reaching out and grabbing both him and the staff which he broke with enough grip. As he held Robin by the neck the boy wonder struggled and kicked his feet about.

“I wish I was there to have seen when you died in this time, Robin. Garguax said. “How great a sight it would’ve been. Oh well. At least I can enjoy killing you myself!”

“Not this time.” Robin smirked.

Garguax suddenly heard “SHAZAM!” before turning to be met with a hard punch to the face by Osiris, now back to his super powered form. The super strength was enough to disorient Garguax as he stumbled back, Arrowette firing a trip-wire arrow that tangled around his feet to make him fall to the ground.

With Garguax down all the heroes recovered with Osiris saying “It’s over. Even the mighty have to fall at some point.”

“No!” Garguax shouted. “Nothing is over until I say it’s over!”

He reached out and pressed a secret button on the headband he was wearing. It opened up the walls in the room to reveal more H.I.V.E. bots in waiting. With the commands from Garguax the bots all began to attack, the heroes all spreading out and attacking them. Garguax recovered and walked over to retrieve his robe on the ground while walking back to his throne.

Just as he reached it Gizmo said “Hey, boss, I did it! The armors’ ready. We can-”

Garguax only said “Good.” Before slapping Gizmo away out of anger before he could finish.
Garguax began to fit the armor onto himself, Nightstar seeing this and calling “Stop him! He’s got the armor!”

Most of the heroes tried to act but in one way or another were stopped by the H.I.V.E. bots blocking their way. Even Starfire however was the one to come the closest. Angered by being stopped by the bots she roared as she charged a powerful volley of starbolts from her hands that crippled all the bots in front of her. Just as she flew towards him Garguax, now with the armor on, activated it and created a portal in front of him.

Looking back he called “Times up for you, Young Justice! But I have all the time in the world!”

He laughed as he jumped through the portal before it closed behind him, Starfire not being able to reach him in time. A moment later all the other heroes, having destroyed the H.I.V.E. bots, looked with defeat at what had happened.

“No!” Osiris shouted. “We’ve failed…”

“Now what?” Kai-Ro asked. “Any second now time’s going to go upside down and there’s nothing we can do.”

“We’re down but we’re not out yet!” Nightstar suddenly said to try and keep their spirits up. “We’ve dealt with these kinds of odd before and we’ll beat them here like we do all the time.”

“How?” Arrowette asked. “Garguax has the only time armor. There’s no way we can follow him.”

Robin suddenly perked up and said “Yes there is.” Before looking over to Impulse.

“Me?” he asked.

Robin nodded before saying “You’re the only one who can travel fast enough into the time stream to catch up with Garguax.”

Batman then added with “You’ll need to follow at the same frequency and vibration when you do. Otherwise you could end up following a different time stream altogether.”

“I have the read outs still saved into my system.” Cyborg said before displaying them on a little console on his wrist. “But you’re only going to get one shot at this, Impulse. Otherwise we can kiss all of this goodbye.”

Impulse gulped a little before saying “Yeah. No pressure, right?”

Nightstar grabbed him by the shoulders and said “You can do this, Impulse. I know you can. We all do.”

Impulse looked around to everyone giving reassuring gestures or looks, even some nodding, before he took a deep breath and said “Ah what the heck. At least if it doesn’t work, I’ll know I went out doing what I do best: running.”

After getting the right info from Cyborg, Impulse stretched himself out and limbered up before reading himself for a run. He squatted down and positioned himself like a track runner as he focused.

“Hey.” Batman called to him, making Impulse look back. “Good luck.”

Hearing the vote of confidence from Batman, the one whom Impulse thought hated him the most, added a little more confidence to him. He nodded to him before focusing again and then, after a moment, ran off so fast he almost disappeared in the blink of an eye.

Running into the open city Impulse kept running and then, when he knew he was going fast enough, started vibrating at the right frequency. He could feel the strain of all this work starting to take effect but he fought against it, still running and gaining speed and velocity. Eventually, after running far into the open ocean, Impulse disappeared in a flash into the time stream.

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When Impulse opened his eyes he found himself running through the timeline, and it was one of the most incredible sights to ever be seen.

It seemed like nothing but intense blurs of light passing around him in a funnel while the sounds of people talking and thing like old automobiles and dinosaurs echoed all around. Impulse knew this was all from the different streams of time al passing at once together in this one grand path into the past.

With no sigh of Garguax yet Impulse picked up the pace, a surge of speed force fluxing over him as he did. Within a few moments he found him, Garguax riding through the time stream via the Warp Armor. Impulse increased speed as he could see a light towards the end of the funneling timeline.

“Hold it!” Impulse cried out to Garguax, who looked back to see him.

“What? How?” Garguax shouted seeing Impulse.

Seeing as he gained Garguax tried to push forward towards the end of the time stream. Impulse managed to get close enough to grab his robe only for Garguax to knock him off. Impulse almost lost his footing to the point of being knocked from the time stream, thankfully he managed to stay balanced and kept going.

“It’s too late, boy!” Garguax called back. “There’s nothing you can do to stop me!”

He laughed as he kept going forward towards the end, Impulse now able to see what it was that Garguax was trying to change. He could see the moment in time where the Teen Titans, the original team, were all together for the first time in their lives. Obviously Garguax was intent on his plan on see that the Teen Titans would never come to be and Impulse now realized how great a risk this would be.

But with the confidence in his friends behind him Impulse said “Want to bet?” before increasing his speed again.

He pushed himself far and hard enough until he caught up right behind Garguax again. Instead of grabbing for him Impulse jumped up and landed on the alien’s back, the two now fumbling with each other as they came closer to the moment. As the two struggled Impulse managed to reach down and grab hold of the armor’s control system.

Before they could reach the end of the time stream Impulse shouted “Times up for you, Garguax!” before smashing his hand against it.

The time stream suddenly changed, the moment with the Teen Titans dissapaearing and now changing to another point in time. Garguax screamed with defeat as he and Impulse went hurdling out of control before both were suddenly enveloped into the new moment in time.

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A few minutes had passed and the members of Young Justice, and the two Titans, were starting to worry about Impulse’s success.

All were sitting or standing in waiting while making sure all the villains were secure and all the H.I.V.E. bots were out of commission. Even with that they were still all anxious to see who would be successful: Impulse or Garguax. Robin kept glancing over to Starfire who in turn looked to Nightstar, all having the same concerned expression.

When everything seemed hopeless a time portal suddenly opened, everyone gathering near it. They waited to see who would come through, all ready to fight if it be Garguax. But, thankfully, Impulse zipped out of it and sped past them before coming to a screeching halt. He turned revealing he had the Warp Armor with him.

“Score!” he said before holding up the armor in victory.

All of his friends ran to him, all congratulating, before Starfire asked “What about Garguax?”

“Oh don’t worry.” Impulse said with a smirk. “He’s somewhere where he won’t bother anybody.”

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Garguax found himself wandering through a dense jungle. He was confused as he pushed past one brush after another. However when he finally cleared it he found himself standing in the dawn of time, where a whole heard of dinosaurs where spread out before him. Just as he realized how doomed he was he heard the thundering steps of a T-Rex from behind.

Garguax only turned and yelled “NNNNOOOOOOOOOOO!” as the Rex brought its jaws down towards him.

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“You did well, kid.” Batman said to Impulse. “You did real well.”

Impulse smiled at this with everyone else agreeing before Robin said “Now there’s just one more thing we need to do.”

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Back in the present time, the three reaming Titans found themselves beaten and lying just outside Titans Tower.

As all three of them laid on the ground, injured and groaning, Beast Boy looked to the others and said “I thought getting him out of the tower was a good thing.”

“I’m thinking we need a new plan.” Raven commented.

Cyborg, laying face-up, commented with “If you have any I’m all ears.”

Their attention was drawn towards the android Echo when he approached them. They could see he was priming his weapons for a killing attack, all of them bracing themselves for it to come.

{Mission parameters reached.} he said as he still primed his attack. {Destruction of Teen Titans imminent. For your consolation, Titans, your chances of success were never high to begin with.}

“How nice of you to say.” Raven sarcastically commented.

Just when Echo was ready to deliver the final blow a time portal opened up just behind where the Titans were. All looked towards it, Echo stopping, before Osiris flew out and punched Echo square on the metal jaw. Echo stumbled back, surprised by this even for a robot, before Nightstar and Starfire flew through next.

They fired a barrage of starbolts before reaching Echo and punching him hard enough that his arms fell off. The android fell to the ground before getting back to his feet, only for Batman to through a batarang through the portal before stepping out with most of the other Young Justice members. The batarang hit right into Echo’s chest and caused a small explosion that sent him stumbling back again.

The three Titans were surprised to see as Robin and Starfire had returned with these heroes of the future, all eventually being helped up to their feet by them. All gave questionable looks or tried to ask what the heck was going on before they looked to Robin for answers.

He smirked and merely said “Long story.”

Echo, seeing all the gathered heroes, stated {Unable to compute. Parameters changed. Variables altered. This is impossible!}

A blast from the future Cyborg’s arm cannon fired from behind the group and, with the final attack, knocked Echo’s head clean off. Everyone looked back to see him, the present day Cyborg of course the most shocked off all to see his bulkier future self.

With a simple smirk the future Cyborg merely said “Booyah.”

Seeing all of this Beast Boy cried out “What the heck is going on? One minute you guys are gone and the next you come back with future super heroes! I feel like I’m getting whiplash from all of this. Or maybe it’s the neck pains from Echo.”

“We’ve got to run.” Batman said. “The portal will close pretty soon.”

Osiris nodded before picking up all the remains of Echo and sending it through the portal. With that the heroes all started saying their goodbyes, starting with Starfire and Ace.

She petted the mutant dog and said “Until we meet again, my slobbering friend.”

The dog gave a saddened whimper before walking back to Osiris. The magically enhanced hero looked back to both Robin and Star and nodded, both returning the gesture, before he went through the portal.

Arrowette waved goodbye as she went back saying “See you guys. Tell my dad I said ‘hi’. Or actually….maybe just wait until after I’m born or something.”

After she went through Kai-Ro bowed as he floated next to them and said “It was an honor, Titans. Hopefully we can do more of this in the future.” As he floated off he stopped and said to himself “Huh. Didn’t even know I made that joke until now.”

Impulse zipped up and shook their hands fast before saying “Well it was fun, guys, but I guess we got to head back. But hey, you ever have any time trouble you know who to call.”

Robin laughed a little and said “We will. And Impulse. Thanks. If it hadn’t been for you, I doubt we’d be here at all.”

Impulse smiled greatly at this before waving bye to the other Titans he didn’t get the chance to really meet. After that he ran through into the time portal, now Cyborg taking the chance to talk.

He looked to Robin and Starfire before saying “Let’s keep the whole computer thing between us, okay? I don’t think younger me could handle the news just yet.”

“Agreed.” Starfire said. “Though I and still wondering if he will accept the offer of the Justice League along with Raven.”

“Oh that?” future Cyborg asked before saying “I turned it down. And so did Raven, at first. We figured there’d be the right time and place for it. It just wasn’t that time.”

Both Star and Robin smiled at this, figuring that it would be the same for the Cyborg of their time, before the future one looked back to his younger self. The two looked at each other for a moment, Cyborg assessing how this would be the person he would become, before both smiled and signed off to one another. With that Cyborg walked through the portal, now leaving just two members of Young Justice.

Batman shook hands with Star fire and then Robin, saying “I see why he never did chose you to join.”

“What do you mean?” Robin asked, sounding a bit offended by that remark.

“He told me how he never gave you the option to join because he knew the Titans would always need a strong leader. And he couldn’t think of anyone stronger than you.” Robin smiled a bit confidently at this before looking back to Starfire and saying “Though who knows how long it’ll be before someone else can fill those shoes. Am I right?”

Star blushed a little knowing that he knew the secret kept between herself and Nightstar, before making his way back towards the portal. He looked back to Nightstar, who gave him a certain looking, making him nod before walking through the portal.

Nightstar looked back to Starfire and said “You know….this could make for one heck of a bedtime story to tell.”

“Perhaps I will need to alter the truth a little. Just so you do not become too over confident.” Star commented before both hugged each other. “I will miss you.”

“So will I.” she said before they finished and she walked over to Robin.

“I’m not sure if we’ll ever meet in the future.” Robin began. “But given what I’ve seen, I already know you’ll make a good leader.” After she thanked him he said “Hopefully we’ll see each other again soon.”

He then held out his hand to shake with hers but was surprised when she hugged him instead and said “Sooner than you think.”

Robin slowly hugged back, confused by this, before Nightstar finally finished and walked towards the time portal. She took one final look back to not only the Teen Titans themselves but to the past versions of her parents standing together. She waved goodbye while trying to hide the tear that rolled down her cheek before she finally stepped through.

As the portal began to close Robin asked “What did she mean by that? And what was that about bed time stories?”

Starfire giggled a little before taking Robin’s hand and simply saying “Give it time, Robin. You will know eventually.”

With that the portal finally closed, and the Teen Titans timeline would soon come to encompass and align with that of the future team Young Justice. All fitting perfectly into place. But then again who’s to say everything would turn out exactly the same?

END