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Description I practically grew up with Disney; it's been in my life for as long as I can remember – like, since before POKÉMON “for as long as I can remember”, and Pokémon came into my life in 1998!  If looking back at Pokémon makes me feel old, looking back at Disney makes me feel even older.  As such, I've seen a very good chunk of Disney's repertoire of family films and, as such, I've decided to share my Disney “controversy”.

As the meme implies, there IS potentially controversial opinions in this meme, so BACK AWAY NICE AND EASY if you're easily offended by opinions.

Without further adieu, allow me to break up the controversy and explain why each piece is what it is.



Favourite character:  Baymax from Big Hero 6.

Though relatively new, I consider Baymax to be one of the best things that Disney has ever given us; his design is incredibly adorable, his behaviour is charming, his devotion to Hiro is admirable and he is capable of being an cute badass, which is a stark contradiction in itself!  I don't think I need to mention how utterly hilarious Baymax is, what with his “low battery” mode and his attempt at fist-bumping giving us the infamous “ba-la-la-la-la” quote Baymax is best associated with outside of “hairy baby”.  All in all, Baymax has made me squee, laugh to the point I almost cried and shed a tear all in one viewing of Big Hero 6 and has left a large impression on me, which has warranted his place as my favourite Disney character of all time.


Despised character:  None.

Oops.


Most overrated movie:  The Lion King/Frozen.

I...couldn't decide between the two.  To compromise, though, I listed the both of them, except they're under different categories; The Lion King is the “overrated, but good” film, whilst Frozen is the “overrated, but bad” film, hence why they're green and red respectively.

The Lion King is a very good film, don't get me wrong; it's well-paced, its songs are memorable (even my hated TLK song, Hakuna Matata), it gave us one of Disney's most classic villains in the form of Scar and has wonderful animation.  However, it does get far too much praise when there are other classic Disney films that could use some of that praise, like The Hunchback of Notre Dame (which I will touch upon later), Robin Hood, Pinocchio and even The Lion King 2 Simba's Pride (in my opinion)!  While I don't know how “rabid” the fanbase can be, they need to chill out and understand that The Lion King isn't the only good Disney movie out there – case in point, Mulan, Beauty & The Beast, Big Hero 6 etc.

Frozen, on the other hand...I'm (not) sorry, but I found it to be a terrible film.  Like, “I don't even know how I survived its entire running time” terrible.  But what exactly IS my beef with this...thing?  I've got to be honest, it IS quite a lot, but I'll try to be as blunt as I can to spare your eyes from a wall of text that's longer than it needs to be; in a nutshell, I didn't care for its humour, animation (as pretty as the snow was), characters (Hans and Elsa in particular), plot or its soundtrack.  One of my biggest beefs with Frozen was the pacing; everything either dragged out for too long or was quickly glanced over like we're supposed to automatically accept that X-thing was happening with no regard for the lack of why it was happening, such as Hans suddenly turning out to be the villain when he had NO transition whatsoever beforehand.  And DON'T get me STARTED on its “signature” soundtrack, Let It Go...that's for later.  In any case, I find Frozen to be an abomination, especially when I consider the fact that it was made by the SAME PEOPLE who made Wreck-It Ralph beforehand, which was another Disney film I enjoyed, and Big Hero 6 afterwards!  Compared to Wreck-It Ralph and Big Hero 6, Frozen...is abysmal.

IN MY OPINION, at least; if you like Frozen, that's fine.  And if you hate The Lion King, that's fine, too.


Most underrated movie:  Freaky Friday (2003 Lindsay Lohan version).

I tried to watch the original 1976 version of Freaky Friday, but its poor pacing is actually worse than Frozen's; it got to the “body swap” point TEN MINUTES IN (give or take) and I aborted after about 15/20 minutes; it was THAT intolerable.

The 2003 remake, however, corrected the pacing problem the 1976 version suffered from; it took its time to introduce the characters and actually managed to set the stage for the body swap point to make it more plausible.  When it came to the revelation of this body swap, we get to see how Lindsay and Jamie's characters react to the situation with amusing results (seeing them run into each other in hopes of returning to their own bodies was entertaining, especially with the perfect timing of the little brother character), and seeing them learning to respect what the other one goes through is touching at times, such as when Anna-as-Tess helps Tess-as-Anna in the Battle of the Bands contest with the guitar solo that only Anna (for whatever reason) can perform and when Anna-as-Tess makes her toast at the wedding rehearsal dinner that ends up in both mother and daughter returning to their own bodies (though it was weird seeing Anna concluding the toast when she, as Tess, started it in the first place).  I don't know why Freaky Friday isn't well-acknowledged; it has good pacing, humour and a surprisingly good soundtrack – in fact, one of my favourite songs is from this remake!

...it's Take Me Away, in case you were wondering.


Favourite villain:  Hades from Hercules.

This was a tough one; Disney has quite a collection of villains that could have easily taken this spot.  In the end, though, I decided on Hades (though I have other candidates).  Why Hades, though?  He's hilarious!  He's both cool as a cucumber and blows up into anger like a volcano – sometimes so suddenly it's amusing – he's smart, diabolical (I mean, how many other Disney films had villains wanting to KILL a BABY?  ...seriously, how many?  Let me know if there are any more, please!), manipulative, yet he can be quite charming and, as I said already, he's just down-right hilarious.

Not much else needs to be said, to be honest; Hades kind of speaks for himself.

Honourable mentions: Zira from The Lion King 2, Scar from The Lion King, Frollo from The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Gaston from Beauty & The Beast and Ursula from The Little Mermaid.


Despised villain:  Edgar from The Aristocats.

Okay, I don't actually HATE the guy; I just don't like him – I consider him Disney's weakest villain outside of Hans from Frozen (Sorry if you're sick of the negative comparisons to Frozen by now).  Basically, he's just a money-hungry bag of skin who tries to drown some cats who are named to inherit Madame Adelaide's fortune and tries to mail them to Timbuktu when the cats return home, only to be en route to Timbuktu himself in the end.  While I'm a HUGE cat lover (seriously, I'm anti-dog in real life), I find The Aristocats itself to be rather forgettable; I actually had to look up the name of the cats' owner for this and the only thing I remember from it was the lawyer first arriving at Madame Adelaide's manor, which made me laugh and replay the entire scene over and over again (seriously, it was HILARIOUS to see).

As for the rest of the film...for a film with cats in the protagonist spotlight for a change, The Aristocats was exactly like Edgar was; bland, uninteresting and weak.


Favourite song:  Lea Salonga – Reflection (Mulan).

...THIS was possibly the hardest choice to make; I have several favourite Disney songs it was hard to choose one, so I'll list the other candidates as “honourable mentions” like I did with Favourite Villain.  This song plays after Mulan's visit to the Matchmaker goes horribly wrong and is about Mulan wanting to show the world who and what she really is, yet, at the same time, is afraid that her real self will disappoint her family – something that I can truly relate to, to be brutally honest.  That alone is why I ADORE this song; because of how relatable it is to me!  But I also find it to be well-orchestrated, sung beautifully (I mean, this IS Jasmine's singing voice from Aladdin here!) and its lyrics are just...wonderful.  Honestly, this is my favourite song from the entire film.

Honourable mentions:  Love Will Find A Way from The Lion King 2 Simba's Pride, Out There from The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Take Me Away from Freaky Friday 2003 and You'll Be In My Heart from Tarzan.


Despised song:  Idina Menzel – Let It Go.

Need I say more?


Favourite movie:  Bedknobs and Broomsticks.

...dammit.  This was difficult.  I mean, I could have EASILY said Big Hero 6, but...I have so many favourites in anything it's hard to choose just ONE!  In the end, I went for Bedknobs and Broomsticks as my representative for the sake of redundancy.  But that by no means suggests that B&B isn't a strong candidate, oh no!  Bedknobs and Broomsticks is possibly another underrated hit that stars Angela Lansbury as the witch Eglantine Price who is convinced to take in three Londoner children, Carrie, Charles and Paul, into her home during WW2.  As one would expect, living under the same roof as a witch means hijinks ensue; Eglantine gets a letter notifying her that she'll never get the spell she really wants from the College of Witchcraft, run by David Tomlinson as Professor Emelius Brown, due to the war, so she and the kids head to London to see Mr Brown, only to have him tag along as they search for this spell.  After finding a torn spell book in a house Brown's “living” in, they head to Portobello Road, where they end up meeting a man simply called The Bookman, but all they get out of the exchange is “The Star of Astoroth” as their only clue for where this sought-after spell is.  Their search even takes them into the unusual mixture of animation and live-action that is the Island of Naboombu and, EVENTUALLY, the Substitutiary Locomotion spell Eglantine was after the whole time (Substitutiary Locomotion = giving inanimate objects a life force of their own).  It is later revealed that, when Nazis invade the coast outside her home, Eglantine wanted the spell to help win the war.

I won't spoil any more than I already have, but the film itself is entertaining and very charming, if a bit odd to see the man who played George Banks in Mary Poppins acting as a completely different personality in Emelius Brown, and I'd recommend it to anyone who loves Disney and/or Angela/David's performance/s.

Honourable mentions:  Big Hero 6 (derp), Mulan, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, The Lion King 2 Simba's Pride and Mary Poppins.


Despised movie:  Frozen.

Already explained.


Overrated character(s):  Timon & Pumbaa from The Lion King.

I've already had these two in my Top Ten list of overrated characters, but that doesn't mean I can't have them as such here.  I'll leave a link to this list so I don't end up repeating myself any more than I already have (THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Frozen!  Thanks a lot!  Remind me to punch you in the face ten times more than usual!)


Underrated character:  Quasimodo from The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

Why does nobody take him into consideration?  I mean...he's supposed to look ugly, but, surprisingly, I don't think he's that ugly.  Anyway, he's a classic case of the “don't judge a book by its cover” moral; he looks horrid, but, on the inside, he has a heart of gold.  Even though he's sheltered as he is due to being locked in a bell tower because of his appearance (man, Paris must've been shallower than a puddle back in the day! *coughitsajokeshutupcough*), Quasi's generally a very sweet individual, if a bit reclusive around his father figure (I'm like that with my mother, dude) and the villain of the film, Judge Frollo.  All Quasi wanted was to be a part of what's outside the bell tower and, in the end, he achieves this after saving his first real friend, the gypsy Esmeralda, from being burned to death at the stake after she and the other gypsies are captured by Judge Frollo.  I can only guess that Quasi's underrated because he's one of the few – if not the only – Disney protagonists who “doesn't get the girl” at the end.

I know he gets one in the sequel, but I'm not counting that little cash calf.


...well...long wall of text was long...quite frankly, I'd be amazed if you're reading this very sentence!  WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW...

Anyway, that's my little bit of Disney controversy for ya~!  Putting the pieces together is one thing; explaining each piece, however...writing all of this nearly took me a whole hour!

Anyhow, enjoy~!

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Comments: 121

JimyNawtron [2018-05-28 18:36:26 +0000 UTC]

I completely agree with you on The Lion King being Overrated! Especially with that whole depiction of hyenas....Will you think any less of me if I say that I prefer The Lion Guard series of Disney Junior more? Not only did it have one or more Good hyena characters in it along with an uber adorable hippo character, it also has my favorite wild dog in it: Black Backed Jackals! But unfortunately, Timon & Pumbaa become even More overrated in Lion Guard as pests and nuisances!


As for Edgar? He really wasn't That much of a villain. Now if he got robotized, Then maybe he be an actual menace! And I like Miss Bianca Way more than Duchess!

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Ianbram92 In reply to JimyNawtron [2019-05-24 21:48:33 +0000 UTC]

Lion Guard is actually a REALLY nice TV show, that expands upon the original cartoon classic and explores the extended African wildlife that inhabits the Pridelands beyond the core cast. Also kudos to it being 2d animated pretty faithfully to the original film!

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JimyNawtron In reply to Ianbram92 [2019-05-24 22:10:55 +0000 UTC]

Did you know that Season 3 is going to have Japanese Macaques, Snow Leopards and even a Red Panda? Those are animals that Cannot be found in Africa! But I believe that they're seriously going to treat it like they've Always had them in Africa! I don't think Disney even knows What Misplaced Wildlife is.

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Ianbram92 In reply to JimyNawtron [2019-05-25 23:00:14 +0000 UTC]

*Gasp* I DIDN'T know they were going to include Asian wildlife in Season 3. But frankly, I'm just happy they've renewed for another season!

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TiredEspurr In reply to JimyNawtron [2018-05-28 18:38:48 +0000 UTC]

I can't say; I haven't watched The Lion Guard.

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Jimma1300 [2017-08-08 22:44:15 +0000 UTC]

Long live the Hadester!  

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81Scorp [2017-03-25 12:57:01 +0000 UTC]

I feel I have to disagree with you on a few points on Frozen. The characters are not that bad. I can understand why people don`t like Hans. They see no reason for him to turn like that.
As someone who has studied psychology I can say that Hans is an example of a real life sociopath: Manipulative and without empathy (but is good at faking empathy by being good at fitting in). There are small, subtle signs of his villainy throughout the film that only become clear in hindsight:
In "Love is an open door" he sings: "I've been searching my whole life to find my own place", meaning her kindom. He`s more interested in it than her.
When Anna decides to leave to find Elsa, he protests that he doesn't want her to get hurt. However, when she puts him in charge, his objections vanish and he seems to perk up (because he gets to be in charge of a kingdom).
In Elsa`s palace, before one of the Duke's men shoots at Elsa with a crossbow, he briefly glances upward to Elsa's chandelier before he intervenes with the crossbow's aim. It may look like he`s trying to spare her but he knows that the chandelier could have killed her.
He`s a clever villain who hides his true intentions behind a facade that fools even the audience.

Now, with that out of the way... I agree with you on other parts.
The plot is rushed, the "Conceal don`t feel" bit could have been done better. It uses up all it`s good songs in the first act, has only three songs in the second act and only one of those songs move the plot forward. The other two: "in the summer" and "fixer upper" are just deadweights.
"Let it go" is not bad, but it is ridiculously overplayed.
The movie is good but not great.

I can understand why people don`t like it, but personally... I like it.
Though not as much as I like Tangled and Moana.

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php…
disney.wikia.com/wiki/Hans#Tri…

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TiredEspurr In reply to 81Scorp [2017-03-25 15:41:54 +0000 UTC]

That's an interesting analysis.

But I still hate Frozen.  xD

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Amelia411 [2017-03-04 13:17:12 +0000 UTC]

Question!  Why do you have Quasimodo as your underrated character?  He was one of my favorite Disney characters growing up!

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TiredEspurr In reply to Amelia411 [2017-03-04 14:38:53 +0000 UTC]

Nobody really pays him any attention.

But I still agree with you; Quasi's one of my faves, too ^^

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rosesandgrapes [2017-02-21 20:21:57 +0000 UTC]

I completely agree that TLK and Frozen are overrated.

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DreadedOne131 [2016-04-20 21:41:17 +0000 UTC]

Edgar from the Aristocats was just there to get the story going, its a movie that just has limited coolness in introducing you to O'Malley The Alley cat, but its a forgettable film.
Frozen has so many problems as its what Timon The Meerkat would call "A Fixer Upper"
www.businessinsider.com/frozen…

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TiredEspurr In reply to DreadedOne131 [2016-04-21 06:15:16 +0000 UTC]

I knew they took over 70 years to get that shit off of the ground, but, honestly, I feel it was 70 years of effort wasted.

And they honestly used THAT excuse for why they didn't make Elsa the villain?!  Because "they felt they couldn't use that word anymore"?  That's a lovely fresh pile of cow pat!

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DreadedOne131 In reply to TiredEspurr [2016-04-21 18:50:34 +0000 UTC]

They were trying to say, she lives alone and is different. We can't make such a person persecuted for their differences be a villian!

To me, it would have been better if she could have been villainous, might have made the ending better.

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TiredEspurr In reply to DreadedOne131 [2016-04-21 18:52:19 +0000 UTC]

And make more sense than whatever Hans did.  Seriously, WHERE WAS THE INDICATION THAT HE'S THE VILLAIN?!

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DreadedOne131 In reply to TiredEspurr [2016-04-23 15:16:55 +0000 UTC]

Disney Exec speaking mockingly: It's cuz he don't felt people different' than him, like Texans who vote for Bush. Obviously he's the villain.

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TiredEspurr In reply to DreadedOne131 [2016-04-23 15:23:32 +0000 UTC]

I don't understand.

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DreadedOne131 In reply to TiredEspurr [2016-04-25 19:45:59 +0000 UTC]

They think they are being progressive, when they are being actually stupid. There's a difference between bringing about social justice, and just making propaganda. Think Michael Moore, with Obama and the Democrats ever bring about charges to arrest George W. Bush and Dick Cheney? No, because Moore was just making Roorbach so people would elect the Democrats. Even they don't take Moore's charges against Bush/Cheney seriously. So making Hans the bad guy was just a way to say they were being progressive by making Elsa not a villian. Never mind that the character they chose to do that for is as beautiful blond Scandinavian woman. It was okay for them to do that for Yzma(Emperor's New Groove) and Jafar because they are ugly foreign people, I shall assume.

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TiredEspurr In reply to DreadedOne131 [2016-04-25 20:23:33 +0000 UTC]

That's screwed up....

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DreadedOne131 In reply to TiredEspurr [2016-04-25 20:43:55 +0000 UTC]

I completely agree

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TiredEspurr In reply to DreadedOne131 [2016-04-25 20:49:03 +0000 UTC]

I mean, that's superficial as hell for one thing; you can't make someone a villain because they're ugly - by that logic, QUASIMODO should be a villain because he's "ugly"!  I don't find him as such, but, y'know...

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DreadedOne131 In reply to TiredEspurr [2016-04-26 14:28:18 +0000 UTC]

Well, I am not only decrying Disney here. They only serve what the market demands. It's this whole immature High School mentality we have going on in this country.

For instance, I was talking to a friend of mine who is a fan of Agents of SHIELD that I was helping write fanfiction for. And he had a friend that liked Skyeward(Agent Daisy "Skye" Johnson + Grant Ward) and he was telling me that she was pleased because Daisy was going to be back with Grant Ward.

Never mind Ward became inhabited by an evil alien who was composed of thousands of man eating creatures and he used the creatures to infect Daisy's brain so that she'd be devoted to him again. She thinks Brett Dalton who plays Grant Ward is a very attractive guy and thinks he should be with the prettiest girl, Daisy(played by Chloe Bennett), and hopes that she'll free Grant from the possession through love.

Nevermind that Ward shot Agent Coulson's girlfriend Roz in the neck just so that he could call Coulson and taunt him for the death of his girlfriend, Agent 33. And Agent 33 was accidently shot by Ward because he thought he was killing Agent Mae, but thanks to Agent 33's face shifting mask, he accidently killed his own girlfriend. And it was partially because he had set up a death trap for Hunter, so that Agent Bobbie would see Hunter die before her own eyes. But he's such a fantastic handsome guy 8P

Forgive me for going on and on, but take for example, Quasimodo, he's an underated character because he is ugly. And Elsa's popularity is due to the fact that there are people who want to see characters on the screen that they can live vicariously through. And a lot of people are immaturishly vain, they don't want to believe they are ugly. It's the same reason why they'll be a high school of 100 people, over %50 percent of the population will be girls, and many of them will all be trying to get a date with the one guy they consider to be the coolest in the school. Not because they really want him, but because they want to be admired and envied by others because they have him and proves their inner lie that they are prettier and more deserving of love than anyone else.

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TiredEspurr In reply to DreadedOne131 [2016-04-26 14:39:10 +0000 UTC]

I don't care about how people look; what matters to me is how they ACT!

Honestly, why is that concept to HARD TO UNDERSTAND?!

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DreadedOne131 In reply to TiredEspurr [2016-04-26 15:13:57 +0000 UTC]

It's because most people live in a lie where they think they are good people, and thus the heroes and deserving of all good things, The COOL CROWD. And everyone else different in opinion or looks is part of that bad people that deserve nothing, The UNCOOL DORKS.

Think about this, imagine you were at that board meeting at Disney, where some exec stood up, and spoke, "We can't have Elsa be the villian! She different from everyone else! We are just promoting persecution of people who are different! What about those people who are gay or suffer from sort of condition like Aspergers? Do we really want to give the idea that we think they are villians?" Board members stand up, "Here here! Yes you are right! She should be the heroine. We'll make that Hans character the villian instead."
Back at the art studio...
"Okay, its decided we can't have Elsa be the villain. So lets give her a redesign. Let's make her face where she's not such a cruel beauty. And that blue hair and skin have to go, because the audience won't identify with her otherwise...."

The original look of Elsa...
moviepilot.com/posts/2611593

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TiredEspurr In reply to DreadedOne131 [2016-04-26 15:25:17 +0000 UTC]

Urgh, I could hardly LOOK at all of that Frozen tripe...

I found it hard enough to give ANY sort of shit about ANY of the characters when I first watched the film out of pure curiosity, but knowing that 70 years of its went down the sewage pipe before it became the pandering pile of cow pat we know it as today hasn't exactly helped.

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DreadedOne131 In reply to TiredEspurr [2016-04-29 20:13:49 +0000 UTC]

Let me know if you care to post anymore thoughts on this subject, haven't seen the whole movie, but the clips seem to be enough and the complaints seem to be valid. Big Hero Six was much better, it glued me to my seat!

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TiredEspurr In reply to DreadedOne131 [2016-04-29 20:23:03 +0000 UTC]

I'm frankly surprised I was able to live through Frozen's entire running time.  I strongly doubt I'll bring myself to watch it again to make a proper review of it, but I can at least safely say that my hatred for the film actually has a leg to stand on because of the fact that I got to see it.

NEVER.  AGAIN.

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SaraHouck [2016-01-06 01:30:01 +0000 UTC]

Morals were unfortunately a bit too subtle for me to learn from in Disney films despite growing up with them. I was aware that you were going to point out the one from the film that your choice for underrated character came from. Since it was directed by Beauty and the Beast directors Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise, I took a wild guess they like that moral. Speaking of which, this was a problem I easily had growing up as a female Aspie. I say that because the autism spectrum is pretty much a "boys' club" due to the gender ratio. Since I was pretty girly growing up, I unfortunately felt nervous with those...dare I say, horrid-looking individuals as part of the numerous experiences I had to go through as an individual with that Asperger Syndrome diagnosis. A few months before I graduated high school was when I realized why I had to go through those experiences, and I planned on attending college, but I ended up noticing that there was a payment method I had to abide by for doing so as an Aspie...much to my dismay. I wanted to get something off my chest by letting out my feelings about it, but since they automatically came off as mean-spirited remarks, thankfully, my mother was right by my side to snap at me as a way of scaring me straight into knowing the importance of inner beauty, or having a heart of gold as you put it, which I often tend to believe might be sugary sweet behavior, if not diabetes-inducing. Of course, this was also my reaction to noticing morals being used to back up the laments against the tween-oriented direction the company seemed to have taken in the mid-to-late 2000s thanks to the surprisingly booming popularity of the High School Musical and Hannah Montana franchises that I luckily disregarded for the most part. I also realized that when I remembered my mother trying to sing Hakuna Matata to me as a lullaby that I was easily driven nuts over, mostly because I didn't like the sound of her singing it. I figured that since those same people were easily elated at the announcement of Princess and the Frog, I figured that hoping for the film to have a moral that kids can easily abide by without any hassle could be another reason besides just a return to traditional animation since Disney impulsively shut down their traditional animation unit as a response from losing ground to Pixar and DreamWorks during the aftermath of the Disney Renaissance when audiences at the time have grown sick and tired of the same old clichéd formula they were used to during that era.

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TiredEspurr In reply to SaraHouck [2016-01-06 08:26:46 +0000 UTC]

I had a similar issue growing up, even though my Asperger's wasn't diagnosed properly until 2010.  I'm not sure if it's just me, but I'm not sure if children tend to notice what morals a Disney film is trying to teach.  Personally speaking, though, I don't particularly care whether or not Disney uses traditional or computer animation; I have favourite films that have used traditional and computer animation, such as Mulan and Big Hero 6 respectively!  Heck, a couple of my favourite Disney films are LIVE ACTION!  For me to enjoy a Disney film, it has to have an interesting plot, characters and be able to tell the story well.  In my opinion, Frozen failed on all fronts.

Thanks for commenting, by the way

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FireMaster92 [2015-11-11 04:24:20 +0000 UTC]

I like Timon and Pumbaa but whatever, it's your opinion. And I agree on most parts.

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WhiteCattheheroqueen [2015-10-22 06:56:37 +0000 UTC]

Wow... I was beginning to think I was alone on Frozen and TLK...

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TiredEspurr In reply to WhiteCattheheroqueen [2015-10-22 07:07:31 +0000 UTC]

Despite NOT being, I commonly feel like I'm the only one who despises Frozen for its wasted potential.

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WhiteCattheheroqueen In reply to TiredEspurr [2015-10-22 08:09:39 +0000 UTC]

Actually, I despise Frozen for its wasted potential too.

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TiredEspurr In reply to WhiteCattheheroqueen [2015-10-22 11:09:48 +0000 UTC]

Oh, thank *insert whatever-deity-you-believe-in here* that I'm not the only one who SEES that!!  8'D

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WhiteCattheheroqueen In reply to TiredEspurr [2015-10-22 11:57:15 +0000 UTC]

yeah. I've seen a lot of potential as well as flaws Frozen had. And after seeing how much praise it got, I'm starting to think that TLK deserved just as much praise as it got. And by that, I don't mean that it deserved so much more praise than other Disney films at that time it got, just the fact that it still deserved it more than Frozen did.

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TiredEspurr In reply to WhiteCattheheroqueen [2015-10-22 12:29:34 +0000 UTC]

I said something similar to that in the description!  8D

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WhiteCattheheroqueen In reply to TiredEspurr [2015-10-22 18:59:55 +0000 UTC]

not to mention that character designs in Frozen are lazy

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TiredEspurr In reply to WhiteCattheheroqueen [2015-10-22 19:03:03 +0000 UTC]

I didn't take any notice of Frozen's character design; I just didn't think anything of it.

My biggest issue with Frozen, though, is Let It Go.

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WhiteCattheheroqueen In reply to TiredEspurr [2015-10-22 19:48:01 +0000 UTC]

The female characters look like a redseigned Rapunzel. And male ones like remodeled Flynn Rider. Well, ok, Elsa doesn't look like remodeled Rapunzel, but she's is literally a copy of their mother.



Oh yeah. Same is here. In fact, it got me feel so annoyed to hear it, it just makes me want to sing the Obi-Wan version my friend and I made of it.

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TiredEspurr In reply to WhiteCattheheroqueen [2015-10-22 20:03:51 +0000 UTC]

I can ONLY tolerate the Let It Go cover NateWantsToBattle sang.  Dat voice...

Other than that, almost everything about the official version annoyed the living hell out of me.  In fact, I can't stand Frozen's soundtrack in its entirety; if I hear it playing in a shop, I'm outta there.

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WhiteCattheheroqueen In reply to TiredEspurr [2015-10-23 13:03:03 +0000 UTC]

yeah. in fact, the entire soundtrack sucks (save for the opening to me). It felt like Into the Woods. Even Les Miserables musical did a better job than that

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TiredEspurr In reply to WhiteCattheheroqueen [2015-10-23 13:27:26 +0000 UTC]

I haven't seen Into The Woods; I wanted to, but it wasn't in the cinemas when my birthday came around - that's how I got to watch Big Hero 6 instead!  Best decision ever!  8D

But, yeah, I see what you mean.

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WhiteCattheheroqueen In reply to TiredEspurr [2015-10-23 13:40:02 +0000 UTC]

I agree there. Big Hero 6 rocked!

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TiredEspurr In reply to WhiteCattheheroqueen [2015-10-23 13:41:19 +0000 UTC]

Yet it isn't as recognised as Frozen.  That makes me sad

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WhiteCattheheroqueen In reply to TiredEspurr [2015-10-23 14:22:27 +0000 UTC]

kinda weird, since it has been said that people did the fan art to Big Hero 6 was started even before the movie came out

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TiredEspurr In reply to WhiteCattheheroqueen [2015-10-23 14:23:10 +0000 UTC]

Huh; that IS weird...

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WhiteCattheheroqueen In reply to TiredEspurr [2015-10-22 12:39:02 +0000 UTC]

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MegaDisneyFan15 [2015-08-30 17:49:47 +0000 UTC]

YES! Finally someone who hated "Frozen"!

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TiredEspurr In reply to MegaDisneyFan15 [2015-08-30 18:42:04 +0000 UTC]

While I respect those that like it, I can't see why people do!

I mean, I can see what Frozen was trying to achieve, but it fell flat on all fronts and failed to utilise what potential it HAD to deliver a great message with an awesome story!

But, no, the whole thing felt incredibly mediocre, and that's if I'm kind to it.  But since it's ridiculously overhyped and soaking in fanboy/girl saliva, I can't be kind to it.  At all.

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MegaDisneyFan15 In reply to TiredEspurr [2015-08-30 18:44:03 +0000 UTC]

I quite agree.

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