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I came across some great images in historical archives that has some wonderfully damning stuff.
I had to reconstruct the The Deutsche Christen (DC) Flag, and I do not ever remember seeing this in our American history books. Anyhow the DC became the voice of Nazi ideology within the Church which was pretty much the Religious Right of their day. They proposed a church were Jesus was a hater of Jews, put a Rambo gun in his iconic hands and then preceded to twist the bible into what ever they fancied. Most church leaders solidly supported the "Juden mission." Tragically only a very small number of Christians opposed Nazism called the "Confessing Christians" headed by Dietrich Bonhoeffer who were ironically rounded up and killed by there fellow Christians. You hear it in the pews "we should line up an shoot those treasonous tree hugging preachers of peace. "Before we sit on our laurels and say "Man were not as gullible as those Germans..." think again. Almost all temples/buildings/organizations rather Pagan, Christian, Jewish, Muslim. Buddhist, Toai-st, polytheist, and ( in case they feel left out) even atheist support there nation states.. It is fundamentally fubared beyond all comprehension when people preach the flag, there are not of the spirit, or if you prefer they lack the poetic milk of human kindness, they are of the world period. The historical Jesus that I have researched did not spend his time reforming law or talking to the roman senate, he spoke to the poor,the wretched and the lost, for his kingdom is not of this world, therefore NO FLAG represents GOD's SIDE. The issue with all the peoples of the world is not political its a moral problem in every individuals heart. Lastly it has been proven that people will hate each other even based on EYE COLOR!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Ell…
ADDENDUM 11/9/3013
Warning:Forgive the bad resolution this was made way before HD and resolution of 800 by 600 was good enough for DA at the time. I might re-due it but currently do not have the time. When i originally posted this piece the responses I got where utterly bizarre seriously go down and read the old comments! Very few people got it at all! Frankly I gave up political art right then and there. Why I created this piece was first off christian dominion-ism that was taking place in every church i walked into. I was like wait wait wait a minute! This contradicts everything any bible i read says and also because my father lived through the German Waffen SS occupation of Norway.. He was so screwed up by killing people at age 8, that when there was lighting outside he thought the Germans where bombing the shit out of us..I Kid you not! When we in America began to beat the war drum I saw my dad who had ironically taught me so well to be hyper vigilance of imperialism super nationalism,globalism and ism's in general the old man ironically put up flags everywhere during 9/11. I still look back and think wow he he missed it what chance do I have?
Recently I have been invited to re-post this inflammatory monster which slammed all of humanity. In my mind we are all little Nazi's waiting beneath the surface
because frankly we are so very scared of the unknown. So we label stuff, poof like magick casting our spell-ings of logic/or lack there of and label's to name the unknown. Although will give ourselves fancy new titles to obfuscate the fact it is what it is.. I have to say upfront I am extremely hesitant to open this can of worms again. I do suspect the newer crowed who wants a re-post have ulterior motives not to mention even more crazy people ranting at me. For those who wanna tear me a new one, your beating a dead horse, seriously I am on my 20th suicide attempt and hopefully the next one will be a winner. I have zero hope in you, or I or anyone not being full of shit..We are all lying liars believing our own lies...
In the end anyone who thinks differently then "us" there appears to be propensity to simply kill people who idea's are not the same just to get them to shut up. We have lost our way folks when during debate and we think ad hominem and straw man attacks now are entertained as valid arguments. I would like to say God rest your soul George Carolyn and thank you for kicking my Christian ass into being more honest about my belief system and everyone else's. Go comet ISON please hit this earth and give a new species a chance!
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That's why I call it the Aryan heresy. Ha, you know what I mean?
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Great Job! It is Time People Know The Truth about How Terrible Religion Is.
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Except for the fact this is entirely inaccurate, given that the Catholic clergy of Germany and, indeed, many other religious groups were sworn foes of the Nazi regime.
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Hmm that's strange to me seeing how the Nazis(last time I checked) were occultist who believed in Germanic Gods.
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Yes ultimately the Nazi as a whole are not ultimately a political movement, it was a fascist theocracy. The core of the Nazi religion was based on the ideals of The Thule Ultima and The Vril society. The point that i was trying to articulate is most of Germany were not occultists, but like any good secret society the outside members have nothing to do with the initiates of the inner circle. Your average mason for example has no idea what the great work really is until around 32 degree.I know this personally because i was a golden dawn mage long before i was a Christian. Your average German did not know there own true ideaology until they became a fully indoctrinated S.S. soldiers in Himmlers order. I can give three classic examples out of history where Christianity was co-opted by people who never believed a word of it, but found it useful to join ranks. In the 1st century church Simon the mage tried to buy the holy spirit, his summery rejection cause him to co-opt Christianity and create Gnosticism. By the third century Constantine 1st who built temples to Apollo and other gods used the cross in the famous saying In hoc signo vinces ("In this sign you shall conquer"). He then changed Christ birth and death to pagan holidays and included roman Goddess and god's processional into our midst where it remains reality unchallenged and intact. The Medici family in Italy who where largely bankers and traders bought there way into the papacy. There desire to rebuild Italy through indulgences was so scandalous as to cause yet another schism in the church turning the time of Martin Luther.
Currently most Christians remain extremely ignorant of there own religion and history as a whole. Humanity in generally likes to believe that it is above being deceived, that that is something that happens to someone else. There is no difference between the Neo-con evangelicals and the Deuchland Christians of Nazi Germany. The Bush family has never been nor ever will be Christians. They are bones men and sacrifices there cares at the Bohemian grove to there gods of war and blood.
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yes and no. the main political ideology as a whole was nordic belief. take the jews who were a strong support of nazism like the rabbis who adorned the banner proudly
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basicly they had swatika banners in ther synagogues. many jewish soldiers for the army knew about this aswell. they didnt really start doing anything until they began to increase the anti-semetic rhetoric, while blacks, gypsies, homosexuals, and poles and russians began to be considered horrible people.
so the jews are extremely ignorant of their own religious history. people must understand this is mostly due to anti-non semitism. where as anti-non semitism is directed at people who bring up crimes to keep things EQUAL in terms of both debate and historic accountability and no denial of any historic event to anyone.
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actually its called "Deutsche Christen"
You spelled it wrong, but it doesnt matter that much
Also this guy is written Nietzsche..hard name for non-germans, I assume
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Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche name I seem to butcher on a regular basis.. You should see what I did to the name Goethe(I orginally pronouced it as Go-eth-e instead of Gur-ta). In slowly getting to the bottom of the Hakenkreuz or solor cross. Its intresting to note during the time of Esther(483-471 B.C.), that Haman son of Hammedatha the Agagite the Amalek that there very symbol was a Hakenkreuz with a serpent endwined around it. So its not even the first time the Hakenkreuz has been used a symbol of a people who wanted to genocide the jews. My fascination with the Hakenkreuz begain with the studying of the Thule-Gesellschaft and other occult orders such as the Vril(that and the fact the Both Japan and Tibet had solar symbolic flags to and beleived in Thule/Hyperborea, one of Dalai Lama's spiritual titles is human representive to the city of Shambhala) .. The further back in time I go the more i see that the Hakenkreuz is a symbol of the Nephilim. First it elements translates to the 2nd chakra where sexual energy comes from, in prehistoric times left to right is the femine principle. What gets just very strange and frightening, is the Male principle in not of the same species, because the male principle is represented by the up and down line circumscribed into a solar circle(representing divinity and stands a very good chance to translate The watchers/angels). A well im babbling at this point almost to incoheriance so ill stop at this point. Maybe it will be food for thought.
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well..that is to hard bread for me..nearly crack my teeth
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I really love how couraged and accurate you lead the discussion about this issue. Good work man! Especially the describtion you make on ~Ac21art's comment brings much light into the meaning of your manip. I see that you are very well informed, mentioning Bonhoeffer and other stuff.
Also you mentioned Satan disguising as an angel of light..very, very true
You are totally right, Jesus dont need the "help" of the politicians to rule the world!
Be blessed!
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very...well...i wanted to say cool...but it makes me sad at the same time...i wonder what jesus thinks about the "american" gospel.
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Excuse me the Nazis were not christian, they even killed many of them, they used the religion to furthur thier political agenda... You want facist's look at ISLAM today
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No they weren't christians. They just manipulated all the religions within Germany. Actually Hitler and his cronies created their own religion centred around old Nordic mythology (Thor, Owdin, Wodin, Loki etc...)
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Ultimately yes you are absolutely correct. I would appreciate if you would look into what i am saying a little more deeply.. Nazism at its core was neo-pagenism largely inspired by social darwinism and the philosphies of neitchze. I am very aware that there was a small crowed of true christians particulary "The Confessing Church" lead by Dietrich Bonhoeffer who died resisting national socilaism of the time(and was killed for his activites.).. The pictures i pieced this artwork together are a matter of historical record. The disturbing fact was at the time of the rise of Nazism Germany was in fact the most christian nation per capita in the world. How on earth did we the saints of God allow this to happen? The message of this piece is that time and time again christs beautiful message has been abused by political agenda's.
This does not discount Christs message, as many have used it as an excuse not to beleive. Its a warning to all christians that just because people say "Lord Lord!" does not constitute a true alligence to God, only the fruit of there life does. Let me make this quite clear to you. I do not believe that Christ breeds haterd(infact Christ is the only way, the only truth and the only light, that none come before the father without him and that there is no salvation outside of christ), but we must remember always that Satan many times comes as an angel of light to deceive the breathern, and that we need to be on are guard.
That perhaps if we could own up to being deceived in the past and resist it, to learn and gain knowledge of, so that we might not parish.
As for Islam and any other relgion in the world, they do not have the the blood of Christ, nor the holy spirit to guide them. So what then is our excuse? Why did this happen?
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I like your artwork.Thanx for the history lesson.Peace.
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Yes, i tired very hard to really get at people and get them to think, but it totally failed, sighs.
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"NO FLAG represents GOD's SIDE"
amen. politics skews religion for their own purposes of controlling the masses. churches should be avoided, rather research and pursue your own faith, wherever it may lead you. i wrote a long rant on this a while back - [link]
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And in the end, we are all just cannon fodder for the new world order
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Very interesting political work. I generally don't do much of it, but I enjoy seeing that of others.
Your concept is good. We have to be vigilant! Right now it is most left wing guys who want the Patriot Act... amazingly... and the Right is all for God knows what (literally). Unfortunately I've not fit comfortably into either one of those two side in the last 20 years or so! ah....
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... thanx that u post simplified version for a stupid bulgarians like me ...
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... i`ll not comment ur photo manipulating skills , but u typing for a things that u completely dont/cant understand ... he , he
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Art can be subjective, but I have a long way to go photoshop wise. So I will take the slam on my photomanipulation skills in stride.
As for rather I do not or cannot understand you will need to justify your statement. If I do not understand then explain to me how im off about politicalization of relilgion? If I can not understand (which i remotely do not think your in the position to judge my intelligence) then why even waste your breath?
A little history about myself. My father grew up in the Nazi S.S. occupation of Norway , both him and his parents worked for the underground. I have spent my whole life trying to come to terms with humanities inhumanity towards iteself, to understand how Hitler like people come to power. On my spiritual journey I have worn many hats from being a toaist to the golden dawn and a plethra of other world views before my arrival at christianity. I seriously continue to study philosophy, history, psychology,economics, and religion both in and outside of college. So either bolster your arguement Sir with something real or we will considere it a win on my part for your use of "attack against the man" debate tactics. After all can we not agree that any idiot can retort with "your art sucks and your stupid hehe 
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... US army comes here ( EU ) when for every one was clear that russians`ll smash nazi bastards without any support ... after Stalingrad , Leningrad and Kursk everything was turned .
In 1941 England and US cancel to Stalin to open an western front ... i`m sure u dont know that ...
... i`m sure u dont know a lot of more things ...
best regards
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I re-did the peice, Maybe now you can translate its meaning into your native tongue.
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Actually I did know that. I also know that Britian and America pulled Norway into the war when they were neutral. Can you please stop assuming what I don't know and discuss what it is here that you think Im off by. Im getting the impression that you either think I support Nazism or that you think I communicating that we need a strong nationistic goverment to combat terrorism. Both of which are false.
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I think the biggest difference is that Germany was looking for a new hope after the defeat of WWI and the degrading treaty they were forced to sign afterwards. This help lead Germany to blindly follow someone who offered retrabution, revenge and a new future for them. This combined with a less global view (compaired to today's world) and several other factors all contributed to Germany's conversion into Nazism. I do agree that humanity (and the U.S. population) is just a gullible as ever, I just don't think the right situation has accured to allow that to happen again. Or at least not in the way or with the speed.
Nice work.
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I can agree with the speed issue and yes there certainly Is differences. Even between Italy and german fascism there were differences. History repeats its self but always with a few twists. The historical connection that im making here is 1)The use of terror to make a society turn over its power from the citizen to the state. A big example of this is when the brownshirts SA would take on the outfits and mannerism of anarchist and communitist factions, stage some major conflict, and then have there other brown shirt buddies show up to and save the day. 2) The movement of Christianity to become nationalistic as the case seems to be now to. I find seeing the cross super imposed with the United States flag more and more. This is not a good thing. 3)The blantant justification of war in protecting a nations intrests abrode(imperialism). 4)The domination of the media. Can anyone honestly deny the link between what news we get to see and what corperate/political agenda doesnt want to exspose. So my point? Maybe there no connection at all between the hate of muslims just as jews were used as a scape goat. When i speak of Nazism Im not speaking of some simplisitc group of thugs who tried to rule the world as taught by history. I speak of corporatism combining with state, supported by religion which won over the intellgensia(which we are currently under and things can go ugly fast under such circumstance). As for my fellow christians, a warning that many many times in out history we get used by those who politicalize Jesus.
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True, we must always be on alert but careful not to become paranoid. There are just too many simularities to not take notice but not enough evidence to be able to do much. If it does happen again, it will be in a way few will expect. Still, I think if we keep our eye on it we may be able to head it off if and when the time allows. Sadly, with the 'quiet majority', the 51% of Americans who lean to more conservitive view of things, this may be ultimitly unavoidable. Hopefully, not. But as the old saying goes, "prepair for the worst and hope for the best". However, we can do more than hope; and that just might make all the difference.
And yes, lets end the politicalization of Jesus. If you can't take responcibility for your own actions, then don't do anything at all.
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