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TwistedMethodDan — 1234 - 04-04 - Bugatti Type 102 Concept
Published: 2012-04-04 12:03:33 +0000 UTC; Views: 2930; Favourites: 25; Downloads: 65
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There's something very different about this one.Usually when I draw a made-up car, I sketch a quick outline of a real car that looks very similar, or at least has similar shape and proportions - then just draw my imaginary car on top of these basic outlines, just to make sure the perspective and angles look all right - as of course there's no reference photo to copy from for a car which you have made up in your head.
However with this one, I didn't do that. Hence why the perspective of the first two angles might look a bit off.
The reason is, one day I was idly staring at my model car collection, lost somewhere in though, then for some reason, with a bit of out-of-focus squinting, I could make out the shape of a 1950 style car looking a bit like a Mercedes SL300 in my model of the Bugatti EB110, facing backwards.
So I made a quick sketch and it looked awful, nothing like what I could picture.
Yesterday I decided to have a proper attempt, or challenge might be a better word. I drew the outlines for the EB110 and then decided to draw the car I'd imagined over it - of course it's back-to-front, so the back of the EB110 would become the front of this car, and vice versa.
It's been changed so much (obviously) that you most likely can't see what on earth I'm on about, or how an EB110 got turned into this.
Anyway... the drawing is supposed to be of what might have been an attempt at a 1950s 'revival' Bugatti, which may have been made along side the Type 101 and Type 252.
Second to the odd origin of a back-to-front EB110, the inspiration comes mostly from the T101 on the front, Mercedes SL300 on the back, and then some various ideas inspired by older Bugattis - such as the rear wings with covered wheels, and side window reminiscent of the T57 atlantic.
Despite the slightly iffy perspective of the first two angles, overall this actually turned out pretty much how I saw the car in my mind when I first stared at the EB110 model - especially the side view. Considering what this sketch started out as, I'm quite pleased with the result
EDIT: check out [link] 's awesome 3D render of this: [link]
Which totally gets my approval, and looks 100% how I imagined the car in my mind before putting it down on paper. Great job!
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I like how tt has many design elements of the modern ones
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Hey, I have a surprise for you. [link]
Still needs some more work on though.
I hope you like it.
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... Wow !
I'm pretty speechless here, can't stop smiling
I never expected anybody to make a 3D model of one of my made-up car drawings, it certainly is an honour!
That's some great work you've done, and personally I think a lot of the subtle changes and differences between my drawing and your model, look better on the model. For example the general frotn end, headlamp fairings look a lot better now, a little reminiscent of a Bentley from that era (which is kinda what I was aiming for, since the two marques have often been competing in the past). Also looks much better where the back of the side window has the ridge above the wheel arch leading to the back, the general side shape looks better.
I find it interesting that on the back view, you decided to make a slight ridge down the window and boot lid - because when I was sketching this, before doing a final outline in pen, I couldn't decide whether to include such a ridge or not. At the time I was thinking either one down the whole length of the car (like the T57 atlantic) or none at all; didn't like the look of a ridge along the bonnet so decided not to do one completely - but it looks great with just a slight line down the middle of the back.
Really, I have no idea how long that took you, but it's excellent work ! I love it
I was considering maybe one day making some 3D models (as in, physical models) out of maybe tin, or clay so I could actually express my ideas in three dimensions; though never got round to it... and I can't work computer software for modelling, so it's really interesting to see this; thank you !
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You're welcome. I'm really glad you like it.
Like I said it still needs some work, it has some defects here and there in the mesh. I'll do some better renders after I tweak it and then put them up on DA, of course only if you don't mind.
I was also thinking whether to change your design a bit and introduce a prominent ridge from the windscreen to the back and split both the front glass and back, but I decided against it. The current ridge it's just a side affect of the way I model my cars in halfs and then mirror them but leave the geometry unwelded in the middle, because it's easier to change things later on. If you look at some of my other cars you'll see that they also have a similar ridge, some definitely benefit from it though.
I doubt that you can't learn one of the multitude of 3d modeling applications out there, it could complement or help you're drawing. I myself use Google Sketchup, the basics are really easy to learn and ituitive, after that with practice and some mostly free plugins, cars and other organic things can be modeled.
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Well it certainly looks good so far
I'm still a bit surprised you decided to make a model of one of my designs out of everything that's out there, it's great
As I said, so far you've done a marvelous job, and even where it doesn't quite look the same, it usually looks better in your model - some subtle improvements, whether on purpose or not.
You're making the model, and I'm not being pedantic haha, I really appreciate it - but if you want to 'tweak' it anyway, then the only few things I would have done differently are that the front grille would be more shaped 'into' the bonnet instead of stick out (and would have the badge built-in of course), the rear lights would be round and not oval-looking (my fault for drawing them like that haha) and the semi-circle trim on the wheel cover being rounded edge and not rectangular; like the other two bits of trim in front and behind it. But yes, still it's amazing
Haha that gave me the idea of wondering if anybody else would want to try modelling one of my designs... we shall see. You'd be more than welcome to try another one if you ever wanted to of course.
I've tried using 3D software but find it hard to get used to... for me it's so strange using a mouse to shape things instead of my hands, and to work through a flat computer screen instead of real space. And to be honest i'm best not trying to learn just right now as I should be studying for my exams instead of spending time on DA hahaha
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I chose it because it was a simple yet interesting and beautiful design and it was fun and relaxing to work on. It has no overly complex and difficult shapes to model.
I've already started work on changing the grill, to be more clean and look like a part of the car not just an addon. The tail lights were easy to make round again so, that's fixed. The trim is also almost fixed.
I saw that you posted those threads and the journal. Good luck !
I spent the most time on DA and on the internet in general when I had to study or do papers for school and I still passed.
Like I said, even if you can learn some basic 3d it could complement your drawing because you can use it as an overlay and you can improve your perspective lines. Anyway just an idea.
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Awesome
Haha maybe one day I'll get round to learning 3D modelling, but that's not the best idea right now... I really ought to study
I used to be like you, passed every test even though I never really revised - usually just a quick look through things the night before.
But last year at university, well - I did pass, though the scores were a fair bit lower than usual... and third year is apparently the hardest. I have 4 times as much content to memorise compared to last year... so I think I should be safe this year and put up with boring revision
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Because I know you appreciate interesting and obscure concepts and concept drawings heres one with a lot of cool stuff.
[link]
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Nice! and from the right era too. I'm liking the slightly older looking designs there, very interesting. And the way that they're in black and white actually just fits the style even more, as those of us who weren't around when they were commonplace are used to seeing them more in old movies than anywhere else.
It's funny how sometimes I get some strange inspiration for ideas - like the back to front EB110 for that Bugatti (hard to tell, I know). I was looking at the rear lights of a BMW 600 microcar the other day, and somehow saw some inspiration for the front end of a big-winged 30s style car, with similar lights as either indicators or small headlamps built into each wing. Might be an idea for a future drawing, if I can turn the idea into a full car; though not one for now... exams are getting closer every day
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Yeah they really look vintage, it fits with our perception of that time period. I guess they were photocopied from an old book or something. I somehow doubt that they used to draw only in black and white back then.
I can sort of see what you are talking about the taillights of the BMW 600. Inspiration often comes from weird places.
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Oh and good luck with those exams.
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Ahh well, a man must do what a man must do.
You'll have plenty of time to learn 3d if you'll want to after you're done studying.
BTW I'm not sure how familiar you are with Michelle Vaillant comics but they always had interesting cars. Here's a link with a lot of the cars from it. [link]
[link]
They might provide some inspiration for future drawings.
Good luck at your exams
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I agree with the others; Nice job dude
For some reason I like the rear view one the most, it seems the best one in proportions
Ofcourse the others are cool too^^
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Thanks !
Haha yes I agree - it was hard getting things right, seeing as I started with a back-to-front EB110 of all things... personally - regardless of the design, but talking about the actual drawing itself - I don't think this is my best at all, though for the other made-up cars I did use very similar real cars as an outline guide.
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Your welcome man
Well don't worry about the fact that this is not your best at all,
I mean...I also draw stuff now while a few drawings I did before look much better. So I don't expect that it get's better with each and every drawing^^
But ofcourse, after all we aim for getting better at it,
as long as it stays fun ofcourse
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Thank you, glad you like it
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You are always welcome!
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Thanks dude !
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no problem, and thanks for the watch!
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I think you nailed it. It really does look like a good 1950s Bugatti, though it's bit more conserative than I imagine a real Bugatti would have made in the 50s. Probably if they would have had a bigger line up this would have fit in somewhere.
Anyway good job.
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Thanks a lot
Making it recognisable as a Bugatti (besides the badge of course) was one of the challenges actually - I found it a little hard to imagine what a 50s Bugatti would exactly look like - there are only two; the T101 and T252 - though the 101 had a few variations of bodywork (the Exner one being the most drastically different) - also a problem was designing the front so it didn't look too much like a Jaguar of the era - you can easily imagine a Jag MkII or XK150 from the front angle if the headlights had been a little different
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Yeah,they definitely used alot those classic shapes in the 50s, especially on European cars. Anyway you managed to get a pretty good balance.
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The roof shape and the rear fenders remind me the Karmann-Ghia and the 1953 Chrysler D'Elegance
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Hmm I see what you mean - especially the Chrysler. I'd never actually seen that Chrysler before.
But interestingly, it does remind me of one of the Bugatti T101 car, the cream/white one (- which was one of the cars to influence this.
Funny how things can be linked like that
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