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The Host rant, Part 2Hello ladies and gentlemen, here I'm again, presenting you another rant on Stephanie Meyer's fourth novel: The Host. Now I had finished the entire novel and I want to share my point of view, so you might decide for yourselves whether you want to pick up the book or just avoid it for your own good.
Part 1 of the Stephanie Meyer's The Host Rant can be found here: (vampirekiki.deviantart.com/art… )
I'm not going to repeat the arguments which I had already expressed in Part 1.
But before I start, allow me to tell you a few reasons why I was still reading The Host despite all the boredom and stupidity I had already recognized when I was half way through:
1. i don't criticize books that i haven't finished reading.
2. the book is easy to read, with barely any complication or subplot to catch up with; plus i don't even have to check the dictionary for most part.
3. there're a great deal of LOL materials within that so-called SF book.
4. this time we readers don't have to suffer through tons of Meyer's useless adjectives/purple prose on describing Edward's beauty. (thanks god!)
5. Even though 'Wanda' is still an annoying Mary-Sue, she doesn't have emo ranting on everything around her like Bella from Twilight does; that makes her a little less annoying than the latter. (thank god!)
Out of all three of authors who had written recommendation for Meyer at the back of the book, I had never heard of any of them before.
during the progress of reading that book, I just managed to find one more major reason to HATE S. Meyer and her books:
*plot-spoiler warning*
This time I continued in around page 329, when 'Wanda', the pseudo-alien who shared a body with the human girl, was attacked by one of the men from the human resisting group. The guy, Kyle attacked her when she was alone even though it had already been decided that no one was to hurt 'Wanda'.
Kyle beat her up then tried to push her into an underground river in order to drown her. Then out of sheer luck 'Wanda' managed to save herself and also saving the undeserving Kyle from a fatal fall, but then when another human, Ian(Kyle's brother) rushed in to help and saw her bruises, Ian asked what had happened and that stupid, innocent, kind-nature pseudo alien Wanda chose to tell the stupidest lie of she hurting herself all over by FALLING to save Kyle from being punished!! Even Ian, who wasn't all that bright, couldn't buy it cause it was only so obvious that his own brother had beat the crap out of her!!!
Alright girls, does that 'falling' excuse sound familiar to you? Isn't it typical for an abused wife trying to cover up her husband's wrong doing by telling others that she got all the bruise by 'falling' down the stairs or something?
When I read that I was so angry to a point that I wanted to scream, I guess S. Meyer, that crap of an 'author', who was a religious person, had tried to put 'Wanda' as an example of 'turning the other cheek', but DID SHE KNOW SHE ONLY MANAGED TO MAKE JESUS' TEACHING LOOK STUPID, THE SAME LIKE THIS STUPID STORY OF HERS?
I SAY IT'S STUPID BECAUSE S.MEYER BASICALLY TOLD US THAT EVEN WHEN A MAN HURTS YOU, FUCKING TRYING TO KILL YOU, YOU AS A GOOD GIRL STILL NEED TO FORGIVE HIM UNCONDITIONALLY AND COVER UP FOR HIM!!!!
I'm so mad that I wanna find S. Meyer and threw a copy of Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible right in her face!! She damn well deserves it!>___<
I'm okay with 'Wanda' saving the undeserving Kyle, but afterward she should have told the truth instead of lying. But in the story she worried about her attacker's safety as if it was HER fault that Kyle would be punished for his cruel action! That guy tried to kill a defenseless alien, together with the innocent human girl inside!! Justice has to be served! ARGHHHH!!!
if my mother, who is a social workers and had helped abused women for years, ever read such crap she would be even more furious than I do!!!
*end of plot-spoiler*
Then there're a few more extra points to express why I found that book unattractive and unrealistic:
1. Wanda is such an all good, self-sacrificing Mary Sue that i wanna throw up. By the end of the story she's even saving the life of a Seeker(kind of an alien whose duty is to capture escaping humans), whom were hated both by herself and Mel. WTF!???
2. the love-triangle of Ian, Wanda and Jarad is annoying, and it's weird too. it's like there're two men(Jarad and Ian) loving a woman who's with double personalities(Wanda and Mel). That's utterly weird, but again uninteresting, and unrealistic.
3. Wanda's stories of her previous lives in other different planets are just simply BORING, too fairytale-like to become realistic.
4. S. Meyer managed to give her aliens the most stupid names ever in the history of Sci-Fi, e.g. Sunlight Passing Through the Ice or Ride the Beast. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Ho… >Robin Hobb had named her characters far better in her fantasy books!>_<
5. S. Meyer described handful of miracle-working alien's drugs, and she again managed to give those alien's technology the most stupid names ever!
6. The aliens in the story are being described as good and peaceful, while humans are savage, selfish and violent(when they tried to fight back). C'mon I had never heard something as hypocritical as this! What the alien had been doing on Earth is to hack into human's body and drive out the original soul/personality within! It is as good as killing those people! Even though humans had been killing aliens by trying to separate souls from their hosts, still it doesn't mean the alien race had a better moral high ground than human! Face it, both sides had been killing people from the other party!
7. Ian. He's such a pain in the ass! First he beat Wanda/Mel up, then somehow he fell in love with Wanda and started taking her side, from that point onward he became even more of a pain in the ass! I just don't need him to point out how much a good/self-sacrificing alien that Wanda was all the time! I don't need to have that throw in my face all the time!! and in one scene that jerk kissed Wanda/Mel even after he knew clearly that Mel hated him touching her (body), need not to say a kiss! His action is as bad as forcefully kissing an unwilling girl!!
8. even though my English is by no mean good, still when I read the lines such as "the (rock) floor moaned" and "my arms screamed", I just knew something had gone terribly wrong.+_+
9. There're various minor crisis along the line, but all of them were solved way too easily; plus there is no major conflict between the alien race and human. So where's the room for excitement, action and suspense?
10. The Happy Ending: OMG! Everyone got what they want in the end without much trouble and barely any real crisis had ever befallen them! How boring!
Here's the final words: please, there're better Sci-Fi books you can read, drop this one! I really think you would better off watching Keroro Gunso(the Japanese anime/manga comedy that has an army of alien frogs trying to take over the Earth, English name 'Sergeant Frog')!!!!! And S. Meyer please keeps your hands off the field of Sci-Fi!!!
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Comments: 27
Guilty-Girl-Diaries [2012-02-17 23:59:41 +0000 UTC]
It doesn't have to make sense. It's for entertainment and a good read. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that others won't. And just because it has an alien race in it doesn't make it si-fi.
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vampirekiki In reply to Guilty-Girl-Diaries [2012-02-18 13:10:57 +0000 UTC]
maybe you're okay with a book in which the characters make no sense and the plot makes no sense, but I'm not okay with it.
Entertainment isn't an excuse for poor writing, senseless characters and water-thinned plots; especially when the novel in question is being marketed as a book for adult audience.
it has an alien race in it doesn't make it si-fi.
Oh, seriously?
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ValxSnape [2011-06-23 20:34:05 +0000 UTC]
8. That was very badly executed personification. Be afraid.
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vampirekiki In reply to ValxSnape [2011-06-27 02:19:02 +0000 UTC]
yes, it worrys me a great deal.
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1000yearseternalmaze [2011-05-04 10:39:44 +0000 UTC]
Listen everybody-leave people to think what they want.You cant change them, just because you feel so.Dont act that patronizing toward random people in internet.It is dumb and more important-it is none of your business.Even if you think the author of this rant is wrong, she is not obligated to change for you, even to pay you any attention.Pretentious preaching is not needed.
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vampirekiki In reply to 1000yearseternalmaze [2011-05-04 13:10:03 +0000 UTC]
thank you for saying that. I really want people to understand just becoz I wrote a rant or two, it doesn't mean I'd like to devote all of my time in answering questions regarding my rants. I can only reply when i see it's necessary to reply, also when i really have time in my hand for discussion.
PS: I got more of less the same response after I wrote a Harry Potter rant which is a bit too ranty, and people eagerly jumped up to correct me of my 'wrong opinions'; sometime i just don't understand people.
But after all that mess, I can still conclude my feeling toward SMeyer and her up to no good ‘novels’ in the following sentences: Now looking back at it I might even say that I had overreacted a bit, after reading more of SMeyer’s ‘works’ and dealt with page after page of sexism, silly female characters and male characters who eventually turned into jerks and/or assholes. It doesn’t even worth it to waste my energy to feel so angry after all.
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1000yearseternalmaze In reply to vampirekiki [2011-05-04 14:47:10 +0000 UTC]
You`re wellcome.Although these people werent extremely rude,I felt the need to say that.Moreover,I have noticed as if most Twilight fan dont tolerate different opinion about the series.
But as if Twilight is not that popular anymore.Lately there are less deviations about it in DA.
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vampirekiki In reply to 1000yearseternalmaze [2011-05-04 14:57:52 +0000 UTC]
even when I was bitching about Harry Potter, there was at least one Harry Potter's fan who was willing to agree with most of my points; but as to those Twilight fans......even though I admit some of them are reasonable, but those who left comments aren't always so nice.
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1000yearseternalmaze In reply to vampirekiki [2011-05-04 14:58:50 +0000 UTC]
Is this rant here on DA?
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vampirekiki In reply to 1000yearseternalmaze [2011-05-04 15:03:34 +0000 UTC]
yes it's but i better not show it to you, esp if you're a Harry Potter's fan.
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ChowderCake [2010-08-28 23:22:04 +0000 UTC]
That doesn't make Christ's teaching look stupid, I think threatening to throw a Satanic bible at Meyer is rather stupid.
I don't think what she did was in any way disrespectful, but everyone has their own perspective.
I'm not trying to cheese you out, just like you chose to read The Host, I chose to read your rant. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just feel like you should watch what you say, that was horribly rude.
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vampirekiki In reply to ChowderCake [2010-08-29 10:41:34 +0000 UTC]
If SMeyer’s idea of expressing ‘turns the other cheek’ is to write a woman got beaten nearly to die and asked for no justice afterward, then in my opinion she did make Jesus’ teaching looks pretty bad.
But first of all I’ve no desire to fly all the way to America and literally hit SMeyer’s face with the Satanic Bible, I didn’t plan to do her any physical harm. Furthermore I’d rather save the travel fee for some better use and keep the Satanic Bible for myself. Still I admit it is not a wise way to express myself, but back then there was no other way to express my disgust and outrage toward that book fully.
Now looking back at it I might even say that I had overreacted a bit, after reading more of SMeyer’s ‘works’ and dealt with page after page of sexism, silly female characters and male characters who eventually turned into jerks and/or assholes. It doesn’t even worth it to waste my energy to feel so outraged after all.
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AngelERenoir [2010-01-19 20:46:58 +0000 UTC]
Ha. I'm glad I didn't bother reading that crap. Checked it out of the library but couldn't find the strength to even pick it up and read it. I just read the ending briefly and it was so dumb that I got discouraged entirely.
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vampirekiki In reply to AngelERenoir [2010-01-20 11:37:35 +0000 UTC]
good for you.....the ending...in my opinion it's one of the worse parts of the book.XD
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jessybell19 [2010-01-11 22:58:24 +0000 UTC]
holy moses! you really are angry at this book arent you? i think you need to open your mind a bit. I seriously lolled when you thought that the wanda/kyle fight was about domestic violence! where are you pulling these threads from? omg j r r tolkein most have been pro-wife beating as the nine attacked arwen (in the films not the book i may add). What stephanie is getting at is that wanda feels so strongly that she doesnt belong that she would protect kyle no matter what he has done because he is HUMAN and does belong in this community and she feels that she doesnt so she will do anything to stop him from being kicked out cos of her. There are no underlying motives for this at all. take a deep breath and appreciate that this woman has sold a LOT of books and is very successful who cares what religion she is? Millions of people love her work for a reason maybe you should re-read when you have calmed down and you may appreciate it more
p.s just cos you havent heard of an author does that make them crap and that their opinion doesnt matter? Just a thought.
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vampirekiki In reply to jessybell19 [2010-01-12 14:48:15 +0000 UTC]
First let me explain that I’m as calm as I can be but thank for your concern anyway. Also I’d like to thank you for spending your time to read my rant and comment. But since your reply is mostly focusing on the Wanda/Kyle thing but I’m in no mood to (a.)re-read that crap of a novel, (b.) analyze S.Meyer’s motive; I would leave it here. I can see that you were trying to explain the Wanda/Kyle’s thing isn’t about domestic violence and I really, really appreciate your effort, but I know we would not come any agreement with that matter.
But I would like to point out I’m okay with S.Meyer writing about man-beats-woman scene, I’m okay with Wanda saving Kyle’s life even when he hardly deserved it, I can also stomach the fact that Kyle got away with everything he had done in the end. But what bothered me is what happened after the Wanda/Kyle incident, that Wanda trying to protect her attacker and she was being presented as a ‘good girl’ for doing that. That’s such a wrong mistake.
and appreciate that this woman has sold a LOT of books and is very successful who cares what religion she is? Millions of people love her work for a reason
When I read this sentence I have to admit I started LOL again. I really don’t understand why the fact that S.Meyer had sold a lot of books has anything to do with my opinion toward her novels. Am I not entitled to have my own option when millions of people love her work(as you put it)? Plus since when being sold-out automatically equals good quality? For example, ‘Mein Kampf’ had once been a best seller in Nazi Germany, does it make the book a classic now? Well, if your answer is YES, then I’ve nothing more to say.
PS: Since when did I ever say the authors whom gave recommendation to The Host are crap? Please don’t put words into my mouth.
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jessybell19 In reply to vampirekiki [2010-01-12 14:54:13 +0000 UTC]
LOL never mind you obviously missed the point. I was pointing out why Wanda was sticking up for Kyle as she believes him to be a higher entity no matter what he has done and that he belongs in the community and she doesnt so she wouldnt let him be kicked out because of her. And its simple logic that if I lot of people buy something people generally like it.
PS. you said you knew the book was going to be rubbish as you had not heard of the authors that recommended it...how shortsighted are you? I havent heard of you but if you recommended a book i wouldnt instantly think it was not worth my time
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vampirekiki In reply to jessybell19 [2010-01-12 15:00:23 +0000 UTC]
I don't want to go into the Wanda/Kyle thing again.
but......you READ that i'd said something like "I know the book was going to be rubbish as I had not heard of the authors that recommended it" in my rant?????
what the hell? Obviously, did you miss the point?
allow me to qoute my own writing here:
And then there's one more funny thing about The Host, it is the fact that out of all three of authors who had written recommendation for Meyer at the back of the book, i had never heard of any of them before. XDDD
that's the only sentence where those poor authors were mentioned, and where's the "I know the book was going to be rubbish as I had not heard of the authors that recommended it" part?
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jessybell19 In reply to vampirekiki [2010-01-12 15:23:13 +0000 UTC]
oh come on you may as well have said it as this was implied soo heavily
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vampirekiki In reply to jessybell19 [2010-01-12 15:33:53 +0000 UTC]
oh come on, you read between my sentences and got the impression that i said "The book is rubbish because i don't know the authors who recommended the book" the same way like i read between S.Meyer's story and got the impression that she's suggesting that as a good girl you should protect your attacker even after he beats the crap out of you.
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suburbantimewaster [2009-10-23 16:39:37 +0000 UTC]
I've never read The Host and I never intend to (but you have made me curious), this book sounds like Animorphs. Only difference is that K.A. Applegate had managed to give her aliens better names and actually portrayed the Yeerks as being as cruel as the humans. Also, if you want Sci-Fi that can make you despise humanity and feel sympathy for the aliens, I'd recommend District 9. The violence that does happen to the humans could have been avoided if they didn't shove the aliens in a refugee camp, treat them like shit and make it clear that they aren't wanted. Also, the aliens in District 9 are ugly and they're still cuter than anything Meyer pulls out of her ass.
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vampirekiki In reply to suburbantimewaster [2009-10-23 16:48:55 +0000 UTC]
glad that you dun wanna read this book, you can consider that i had already suffered in your place.hahaha.XDDDDD
yes a lot of people from amazon.com had already mentioned that The Host looks a lot like Animorphs, only that the latter are better written despite it being a YA novel. if you wanna write the alien as something that is beyond good and evil of human's stadard, please put more effort on making that look different for real!
i dun actually need SF that makes me dispise humanity or the alien, all i asked is that the author shows both human and aliens as what they are, with good points and weakness.;___;
i will definitely go for District 9 when the VCD comes out.
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suburbantimewaster In reply to vampirekiki [2009-10-27 04:00:23 +0000 UTC]
To be honest, I'm not really sure if the aliens are perfect in District 9. The only one who really has a character is Christopher and his son, and they don't really hate all humans. According to one reviewer, the aliens are just like humans. Another person wrote a fanfic where the aliens lived in perfect harmony on their home planet and she made them way too perfect while blaming imperfections on the humans. Of course, this writer also had a possible Sue. I take it you've never seen District 9.
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vampirekiki In reply to suburbantimewaster [2009-11-14 04:54:26 +0000 UTC]
that's good to hear that the aliens aren't perfect in the movie. who needs to read/watch perfect characters anyway? they're utterly boring.XDDD
i still haven't watched District 9 so thanks for the information you'd given me.
by the way, H P. Lovecraft created some really really nice SF stories, the aliens/gods in his stories are just....awesome.XD
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suburbantimewaster In reply to vampirekiki [2009-11-14 06:44:59 +0000 UTC]
There's one fanfic who says that they were perfect before they landed on earth, but that was a fanfic and I really think the author needs some constructive criticism. District 9 is more complex. The aliens and humans have exactly the same traits, yet the humans still oppress the aliens.
No problem.
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vampirekiki In reply to suburbantimewaster [2009-12-04 13:26:42 +0000 UTC]
fanfictions....what can you say about them?
i got an impression that the movie is more about exposing the ugly-side of humans more than that of the aliens...
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suburbantimewaster In reply to vampirekiki [2009-12-04 19:03:06 +0000 UTC]
You have to admit, it does a good job. Well Christopher's Blog describes radical groups who go around killing people simply because they're humans and had to leave because he didn't approve of this. He also posted videos about humans who were on their side. Plus, the director claims that they left their home planet due to bad conditions. Assuming that you're talking about District 9.
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