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"Science killed God." I hear this statement so many times, it's become very funny. People need to realize that science does not work like that. Science itself cannot disprove the existence of a diety that is defined as a supernatural and abstract being.
You would be shifting from science to metaphysics if you were to assert that only what science can investigate directly is real. Making a philosophical statement, such as "If you can't see it, feel it, or hear it, it doesn't exist", is not scientific, since you can't or refuse to test out the very statement. This can lead the person into making circular reasoning fallacies. Saying that science can only expore the physical natures does not show that anything abstract is non-existant. The statement only threatens to contradict itself, since words themselves are abstract, and are very real.
Could it support the non-existence? Maybe it can. However, the scientific method is to observe what is happening in the present, form a hypothesis and to see if something can be recreated or retested. There are many theories and many hypothesis, but even the most concrete theories can change dramatically as new technology progresses new tests and even more discoveries.
There are many scientists who have opinions based on their presupposed beliefs and they go about interpreting evidence to support their beliefs, so that means if you already are convinced that God does not exist and cannot exist, you probably wouldn't be that open to the evidence that supports otherwise.
Just my opinion. *tail swish*
BLAH, I feel like I didn't do a good job explaining myself in the description, just sooo tired and still trying to get back into the controversial crowd lol
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Kaasusumu [2018-09-21 11:06:38 +0000 UTC]
The concept of "god" only exists because the bible exists. A book written thousands of years ago, brought into today where it no longer applies to an educated generation that is no longer desperate to make something up just to feel like there's purpose to the creation of the world.
This isn't actually a thing, but basically, religion has the Guinness World Record of being the biggest and oldest delusion with many different kinds shared by millions of people. It's funny how delusions are supposed to be helped, but apparently, religion is somehow different and it's expected to be respected, despite immense evidence that indeed actually proves the bible wrong.
Gee, it's almost like there's a reason why when we learn about science, we don't learn about religion.
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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to Kaasusumu [2019-04-26 02:58:40 +0000 UTC]
>Implying The Bible is the only book about 'God'
>Implying the concept of a God is only limited to Abrahamic religions
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Paulthored In reply to GreenBoy9000 [2023-02-05 06:21:55 +0000 UTC]
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Meztli72 [2018-07-15 20:21:09 +0000 UTC]
Neither disprove Him. Still, scientific evidence of the infinitely complex wonders of Nature (Universe) are showing that nothing is done in the Universe by just chance. So we, the people who believe in God (a Supreme Being who created Universe) realize His existence through the amazing miracles of Nature and the living beings, both in a micro and macroscopical way, apart from our personal spiritual experiences.
At this point it's well known that Darwin's theory of evolution has a lot of flaws; in fact a lot of reputed scientifics made strong criticism to that theory, claiming by their analysis that there are no scientific evidence, strong enough to support it. And not all these science people believe in God, some of them being completely atheistic.
People who doesn't believe in God at least, many of them, cannot hide their ashtonishment in front of the miracle, the beauty and the infinite complexity and efficiency of creatures and Nature in general.
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Poi-Frontier [2018-05-01 07:51:08 +0000 UTC]
Bless this stamp and description. ^^
Yes, Science isn't in that level of finding Supernatural beings in our universe yet.
We have dreams of creating a time machine, but we are still not at that level are we?? We need something more advance like that to go farther in their research, alot of scientists do believe in an excistance of god or deities, or at least the posibilities there are beings much supreme than us.
Science makes us more curious to what is really our there.
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ArmorFelix2012 [2017-09-11 22:59:52 +0000 UTC]
Let's find where God lives and do a experiment on God-essence; I'm sure he'd be willing to help out and make things quantify-able for us.
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Fullmetal0Thunder In reply to ArmorFelix2012 [2017-11-02 08:23:35 +0000 UTC]
Flagged as Spam
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MihTimak [2017-04-25 13:29:03 +0000 UTC]
If you can explain this or that phenomenon without attracting the god, why attract? (See Occam's Razor.) And if not, it means only that the science did not develop enough at our time, but it develops further and further, and sooner or later it will find a natural (godless) explanation to the discussed phenomenon. Maybe we (I mean you, XDiaLinnX, and myself) will not live at that time, maybe even babies that were born today will not live at that time, but the science does not care about it. And to that time there will appear new questions, new phenomena, requiring even further development of science, and so on - without an end.
The science has no need to disprove the existence of anyone or anything. The person that claims that someone or something (for example, a god) exists, must prove this existence, not vice versa. You can fantasize whatever you want: unicorns, many-headed and fire-breathing dragons, chimeras and so on - but the burden of proof will be yours, not your opponents.
But if all gods sit so quietly that do not display themselves to us, we can easily think that they do not exist at all.
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starmariofan4 [2017-03-27 21:51:11 +0000 UTC]
Most Scientists were Jewish or Christian. Even Galileo was completely Catholic and believed we should study God's creations.
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Xenomaster In reply to starmariofan4 [2018-02-20 22:38:28 +0000 UTC]
And guess what happened? They turned up the complete opposite
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starmariofan4 In reply to Xenomaster [2018-02-20 22:44:20 +0000 UTC]
And that changes the fact they were religious how? And just because we can't see something doesn't make it untrue, like DNA and dinosaurs.
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Xenomaster In reply to starmariofan4 [2018-02-20 22:58:13 +0000 UTC]
Didn't say they weren't religious, and we can see dinosaur bones and DNA. We can detect air by blowing onto skin, in a cold environment or into a balloon or bag. We can see the effects of light in many ways, including scanners that see in ultraviolet or infrared. You can drop a bottle of pepsi to show gravity.
I never said anything about not seeing something. What I said was that what the likes of Galileo found contradicted what the likes of The Torrah or the Bible say or insinuate. Boats as big as the ark made by the best technicians to date can't make it and There is no way two of every animal from pandas to star nosed moles to get to Israel in any time. The lifespan of humans at that time was nowhere near 900 years. the Earth is not flat. There are no mention of disease, vaccinations or medicines. You can go into Google Maps and see that a trip from Egypt to Jerusalem can take six days to walk. Eight with the stop at Mr Sinai. No giant boat has been found, no giants, no unicorns, no dragons.
The religious scientists that take science seriously do not do so because of their beliefs.
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starmariofan4 In reply to Xenomaster [2018-02-20 23:36:38 +0000 UTC]
Alright. And the actual reason the JEws took so long to get to Jerusalem was that God was basically making them walk in a circle as punishment for worshipping the Golden Calf.
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Xenomaster In reply to starmariofan4 [2018-02-20 23:41:41 +0000 UTC]
Missing the woods for the trees.
Then explain how. Because I doubt if I made it to the Mediterranean and headed westward, I can get lost.
And even then, you seem to miss or ignore all my other points
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starmariofan4 In reply to Xenomaster [2018-02-20 23:56:37 +0000 UTC]
I frankly don't care. I think it's useless to try to convince people who have their beliefs while I have mine. I;m not going to change their minds like they aren't going to change mine.
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Xenomaster In reply to starmariofan4 [2018-02-21 09:05:27 +0000 UTC]
...I wasn't trying to change beliefs. I was saying your claim that science proves Judeo-Christianity is false
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starmariofan4 In reply to Xenomaster [2018-02-21 15:06:16 +0000 UTC]
Then that's your belief.
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Xenomaster In reply to starmariofan4 [2018-02-21 15:18:03 +0000 UTC]
You are clearly trolling me as I gave you 7-12 (depending how you count them) things the Bible and Torrah say that are contradicted by science. And I will give more, such as how Job 26:7 says the Earth is suspended in nothing when in actuality it's orbiting a giant ball of gaseous radioactivity. Genesis 1:6-8 mentions a "solid "roof" over the world" called the "firmament", which Neil Armstrong and other astronauts, along with various observatories and the like will invalidate. Most Bible scholars date the Bible timeline back from 6-10 thousand years, the oldest ice core we have dates back 2.7 million years.
Do I have to keep going, or should I mention how bats were labelled as birds?
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starmariofan4 In reply to Xenomaster [2018-02-21 16:46:46 +0000 UTC]
I'm not trolling. I'm just saying that I'm dropping this conversation because I don't have the energy right now, so maybe we can pick this up some other times.
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Xenomaster In reply to starmariofan4 [2018-02-21 17:08:47 +0000 UTC]
You clearly are when you put words in my mouth (I did not say religious scientists weren't religious and said nothing of "seeing to believing"), go for the bare minimum (you only talked about the 40 years in the desert when I also mentioned several other contradictions), made it seem like it's only about beliefs (something that is not only something that doesn't matter in science as science is based on facts, but I was talking about an easily disprovable claim) and took something as demonstrable as "the Earth is not a disk static in nothing" and say it's "my belief that this is contradictory between science and the bible".
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starmariofan4 In reply to Xenomaster [2018-02-21 17:09:58 +0000 UTC]
And you make good claims but I’m just tired right now.
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Xenomaster In reply to starmariofan4 [2018-02-21 17:11:44 +0000 UTC]
1. You are the one making the claims
2. Here's a good one; if you are tired, then ignore the replies until you are better rested.
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starmariofan4 In reply to Xenomaster [2018-02-21 17:19:24 +0000 UTC]
That’s what I’m trying to do.
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JamesSyven [2017-03-13 07:24:09 +0000 UTC]
Yeah it does we have no evidence of any kind except a book a book dosent equal fact its like only using wikipedia and not other sources
(Edit: now im not saying dont believe christianity believe what you want i dont give a shit aslong as you arent hurting anyone)
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OddGarfield [2016-07-03 18:26:00 +0000 UTC]
Science actually furthers the belief of God in many ways.
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Xenomaster In reply to OddGarfield [2018-02-20 22:40:06 +0000 UTC]
Evolution, an Earth many millions of years old while being a ball not at the centre of everything, illnesses not being caused by demons but bacteria and viruses... Yeah, no.
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g0thi-cr0c [2016-05-27 15:12:32 +0000 UTC]
Exactly.
"Science without Religion is lame; Religion without Science is blind."
~A. Einstein
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yazmen10 [2016-05-05 01:10:48 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, science actually proves to me that God does indeed exist.
In my opinion, the complexity of how the universe is put together and works and the huge amount of coincidences that led to us being created show that there was at least some sort of higher being that created us. I believe that there has to be a God who did this, because there are too many coincidences just for all of this to be purely by chance.
Although, that can't actually be proven, it's only my belief.
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wakaflockaflame1 [2016-05-03 09:28:10 +0000 UTC]
You see this bitch ass nigga under me with his bs. xD
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captain-pixels [2016-04-08 02:31:45 +0000 UTC]
um
I'm not gonna act like I know everything like a total pushover atheist, (I'm agnostic) but science and religion don't really work with each other.
the bible contradicts science, and science contradicts the bible.
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Paulthored In reply to captain-pixels [2023-02-05 06:26:18 +0000 UTC]
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Phoenix-Wing-Art [2016-04-01 03:09:28 +0000 UTC]
Science doesn't disprove "God" itself, but the beliefs that the bible tells you to believe.
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Paulthored In reply to Phoenix-Wing-Art [2023-02-05 07:02:49 +0000 UTC]
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BudTheWolf [2016-03-27 00:02:28 +0000 UTC]
In the science class I'm currently taking, it states how things such a god and other greater things are known as metaphysical claims. Which means they can't be scientifically proven true or false. And since its metaphysical it can't be rejected as a possibility. Its just up for us either to believe in it or not.
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qrimqhost In reply to BudTheWolf [2016-04-21 00:34:12 +0000 UTC]
see, you're a wise person. I wish there were more smart people like you on the Internet. (-3-)b
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MonocerosArts [2016-03-03 15:00:47 +0000 UTC]
Science can't disprove something that it can't touch. God is outside the realm of science.
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PoisonShallEvanesce [2016-01-25 02:21:10 +0000 UTC]
May I direct you to a YouTuber named AronRa?
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Thatdude450AU [2016-01-17 01:17:08 +0000 UTC]
that is true actually god can be a 4th demenstional being as 4d beings are allowed by math and science laws as plausible reason for god and could and probably do exist.Their influence in the third demention is unproven though
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memes4evar [2015-05-28 02:28:03 +0000 UTC]
religion = how we discovered science
science = reason why the church isn't allowed to burn non-believers
they need each other
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