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Zigwolf — Ben 10 To the Power of Two
Published: 2012-07-29 20:33:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 12503; Favourites: 145; Downloads: 23
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Here's mine and 's versions of Ben if the Ultimate Alien Force series' were rebooted. This has got me thinking of doing a Multiverse series of Ben 10 pics.Related content
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Thanks... though, since you're the one who came up with them, at least one of them was bound to work(then again, if the "creators" actually used their brains, they might've thought of it themselves).
Thank you, and good expansion of my idea. Here's another one: Ben, with the help of Azmuth, creates a special "locked" playlist where he puts his über-powerful aliens(guys like Waybig, Atomix, Gravattack, Clockwork, Alien X, etc.) or the aliens that are too dangerous for Ben to use(like Ghostfreak or Feedback). Ben(and only Ben... and Azmuth, obviously) would, of course, know the code(s) needed to access these "restricted" aliens, but their DNA can't be accessed unless Ben is actively in that list of aliens. This is, more than anything, a safety measure for in case someone like Kevin(in my headcanon, he's still a villain) or Albedo try to acquire the omnitrix aliens' powers.
Agreed. OS Ben 10k was, by and far, the best of them all, while "Ultimate" Ben 10k was more than a bit too immature for my tastes(at least, compared to the others). I also agree that it was nice for the show to actually show Ben and Kai as a married couple(as opposed to just relying on Word of God) and his Biomnitrix was pretty cool. However, I'd also would like to point-out that, while OS and "Ultimate" Ben 10k both kept the omnitrix that current Ben had at the time, OV!Ben 10k had to trade his in for something better... that should really say something about how crap the Omniverse omnitrix is.
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True, true. they really need to get some outside ideas thrown in, instead of thinking theirs are the only good ones.
That is a great idea! A locked playlist could help prevent turning into those dangerous aliens by accidental transformation. The safety measure is also a good idea like you said to make Ben's most powerful enemies harder for Kevin and Albedo by putting "feedback loops" on those trying to hack the omnitrix and it'll send them on an infinite loop trying to get those aliens.
Yeah, though one thing I hate about the Biomnitrix is it's simple design, it looks like two forearm sleeves with the hour glass figure drawn on both. Compared to the intricate design of the future omnitrix, that Biomnitrix design is pitiful. I agree with you on Ben 10K trading up his omnitrix for his better devices. Though I wonder why Ken had the OV omnitrix instead of the one he received in Ken 10 ? Plus I hated how it was just taken off as a punishment. It shows how flimsy the OV omnitrix is with how easy it could come off. I mean it even almost fell off when Ben and Rook were turned into 10 year olds even though in the OS Ben was turned into a five year old and it shrunk down to match his smaller size.
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Agreed... though, knowing the ego of the typical corporate a-hole, I sincerely doubt that they'd take any outside ideas.
Exactly! Plus, since he has to enter the code(s) to get into his "locked" playlist of OP aliens, he has to be absolutely certain whether or not that much power is necessary... of course, this will also require Ben's omnitrix to stay relatively consistent and that he, at least partially, knows how to navigate through its various functions(as opposed to just restarting him to beginner-level incompetence every season/series).
Agreed. The Biomnitrix, while awesome, was pretty underwhelmingly designed. Perhaps, instead of being a separate device(s), the Biomnitrix could just be an add-on and/or upgrade to the original omnitrix?
Agreed; the omnitrix, no matter which model, should be attached to the wearer's DNA... right? The fact that it didn't shrink with him seemed like a big oversight, to me(although, looking back, maybe it should've been one of the first red flags that the "creative" team simply didn't care).
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And it's too bad that they can't take in any idea offered by fans and give them a contract that credits the creator and maybe gives them some money for the idea as well, because I've seen a lot of fantastic Ben 10 ideas that will never get put on the show because they're fan art.
Very true and I hope it does stay consistent because I hate all the surprise features that just show up with the new one like built in communicator, DNA scanner (I just prefer the OS way of the alien touches the omnitrix and it collects a sample), and I also hate that the omnitrix has an electronic voice to respond back but it's Bens. One feature that came out of nowhere that I thought was cool but is like a deus ex machina is the failsafe seen in A New Dawn that protects the user from dying. I know it's good to have something like that to protect the user but a failsafe that absorbs a universe ending energy and lets the user survive it and send it blasting is just too much for a device that was originally meant just for transforming.
Could be, I'd like to try and design a Ben 10K with a Biomnitrix that looks more like an upgraded future omnitrix.
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Indeed, it's really quite sad that the fans are coming up with all these ideas that are more creative, interesting, and overall better than the ones thought-up by the actual "professionals," yet will never see the light of day.
I was more talking about how Ben himself resets with every new version he gets, but you're right about this, too. The communicator in the omnitrix made no sense and, while I didn't have much of a problem with the watch suddenly having a voice, I would've preferred if it wasn't an electronic version of Ben's. Why do you prefer the touching-based sampling over the scanner? Actually, a failsafe to keep the user from dying sounds fairly reasonable(the one you mentioned, though, was fairly unreasonable). How would you have it work?
Speaking of the watch being suddenly voiced, and looking back at the borderline trollish mistransformations it's given him, that also brings up the idea of the omnitrix possibly being, or becoming, sentient. Hell, some artists have explored it(albeit, most of them in the form of a "humanized" avatar for the watch) and they kind of did it in Omniverse with Skurd...
Chuck approves of this idea(speaking of, am I the only one who thinks that the OS Ben 10k look a bit like Chuck Norris?).
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Yeah
Oh you're right I never noticed that. Now that I do, it seems really annoying to me. It kinda reminds me of why I stopped why watching Pokémon a long time ago with Ash's knowledge and skills suddenly being forgotten and his entire character being reset. I just wonder why can't writers ever look back at how Ben was before and keep him consistent with personality and what he's learned.
I prefer the touch based sampling because it just makes more sense that whenever the omnitrix is touched it scans what touched it and analyzes it to figure out if it contains the DNA to unlock. Plus the parts glowing yellow during the scan mode was cool. The whole UAF laser scan then unlocking of the alien seemed too quick and not all that cool compared to what it used to do.
Well I liked the failsafe that was already in place in the OS where if someone tried to take the omnitrix off from Ben it would send out an energy pulse to blast away everyone near him and the failsafe where if it sense Ben's in danger that it recharges faster than the standard 5 minute wait time.
You know I wouldn't mind that idea. But for some reason I was thinking that if it had a voice that it would be a woman's. I also saw the pictures you mentioned and I also saw a picture of Generator Rex with his entire arm taken over by the Alpha Nanite and it has sentience as well and Rex has to work with it in order to be a hero.
Wow you're right he does look Chuck Norris!
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Because that would force them to both adhere to past continuity and be more clever with the villains(as opposed to just having Ben fumble his way through the episode like a moron).
I guess I can see what you mean; the beam scanner, while quicker, did make me scratch my head at how the omnitrix could ever acquire DNA that way.
Agreed...... in fact, where the hell did that failsafe go, anyway?
Speaking of failsafes, I think that I might have an idea on how to fix the one you mentioned from "A New Dawn (though, you're free to reject it)"; there might be times where Ben is in that level of immediate danger and where he won't be able to reach the omnitrix in time, so perhaps(only in these situations) the omnitrix could quickly cycle-through the aliens available and changes Ben into the one that'll best protect him(hell, it doesn't even have to be an original feature, it could just be something Azmuth added in a later update/upgrade)?
It definitely would've given a new dynamic to his connection with the omnitrix and, I agree, a more feminine voice might've fit better. However, if the watch did become sentient, how far would you have wanted the idea to go? Would the omnitrix become an actual character with development, or just a robotic sidekick(if the former, what would you do with her/its character and what would the relationship between her/it and Ben be like)? Also, I think I've seen one of these Rex/Alpha duo pics; it's an interesting idea, if nothing else...
Hell, even "Ultimate" Ben 10k looks a bit like him(despite his head, basically, just being UAF Ben's with a beard).
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Damn writers. Can't even do something as simple as that.
Not sure. It was a good idea to keep and it just disappeared. Your failsafe idea is a good one, especially with the idea that it could be an added later feature and not one that was there from the beginning that the hack writers might say was always there but never activated.
Well I'd want her to be as sentient as AI might get. She'd argue with Ben from time to time and give choices for aliens Ben could turn into for situations and she could overpower Ben's choice for one she feels is better and that could be the reason from now on for any mistransformations. She wouldn't be a full fledged character outside of the omnitrix though but would still have big enough presence.
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Speaking of omnitrix features, since it won't be "recalibrating" like in Alien Force, what do you think the "blue" mode would be(we know that green is "active," red is "recharge," yellow is "scan," orange is "self-destruct," and, in my headcanon, purple is "error")?
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Hmmm, not sure. That's a good thing to think hard about.
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Agreed, very disappointing indeed... though, Omniverse is far from being the only offender of super-gluing the Idiot-Ball to Ben's back(Ultimate Alien, season "three" of Alien Force, even the original series is guilty of this).
Thanks, hell, some of the other new features could've just been stuff that Azmuth added to fight the Highbreed(like the DNAlien insta-cure).
That sounds like it'd be interesting(for some reason, I picture Ben or someone else nicknaming her/it "Trixie"); plus, that would've been a much better explanation for Ben's mistransformations than just blaming it on his "fat fingers" or "slamming down too hard." Would she/it and Ben have any dialogue outside of arguing?
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Yeah you're right about that.
True, but then those might be viewed as deus ex machinas added as a last minute solution.
Trixie is a good name. It could be an acronym T.R.X.I. (Transformative Responder to Xenomorphic Intelligence)(just thought of it, so if it doesn't make sense, that's why). I'm thinking that Trixie could give Ben info on aliens so he can respond better than doing something stupid like he might usually do. Also she could help Ben when he's feeling down and he can't run away from her cause she's stuck to his wrist.
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Seriously, Ben is made the butt of the joke so goddamn often in the original series and rarely(if ever) gets any credit or appreciation for any of his heroics, even from Max and Gwen.
Not if written well, for example: Ben and co. discover that the DNAliens are parasite-mutated humans, so Ben asks Azmuth if there's a way to cure them. Azmuth says that it's possible and gets to work, revealing the finished cure a few episodes later(hell, it doesn't even need to be a new feature for the omnitrix; maybe Azmuth, with Cooper's assistance, builds those cure guns that Cooper made in "War of the Worlds?").
Thanks... and your acronym actually makes pretty good sense, kudos. That's actually a really good idea, T.R.X.I. informs Ben about both the strengths and weaknesses of any new(and even some old) aliens that he fights so that he's less likely to make stupid mistakes. Also, how would she/it know how to help Ben if he's feeling down(not knocking the idea, I'm just not sure whether or not she/it'd have been sentient long enough to understand emotions, human or otherwise)?
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I guess they're afraid that any praise will immediately inflate Ben's ego to annoyingly stupid levels.
That could work. It wouldn't be as convoluted as long as they build up to the cure instead of it being last minute. That last idea sounds like the best.
Well the way I see it, Ben would have the reaction of getting away from everyone and everything when he's feeling down and being the only communicating thing around him, T.R.X.I is usually the first to say the right thing to him. Also because she hasn't been around for a while, she has a naïve nature to her that makes say the right thing without knowing the full extent to how much it helps.
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I don't exactly buy that(plausible as it may be). My personal theory is that Ben's jerky behavior might be because of his lack of attention(in addition to him being ten and, thus, more prone to being a selfish dick); if you take alook at his home life in both "Race Against Time" and "Grounded," his parents are complete morons that I highly doubt knew how to raise a kid(despite Ben's insistence that they were "great parents" in the latter). Plus, with a cousin that's supposedly "perfect" and him supposedly the "problem child," I have little doubt that they occasionally compare him to Gwen whenever they think he's out of earshot(hell, during the original series, Max seems to let Gwen get away with far more than Ben).
Indeed, and thanks.
Hmmm... I suppose that would work...
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Well I don't know if I'm ready to believe that because we only got two one time appearances from Ben's parents and people can get some bad first appearances of characters sometimes. I'm not giving them a pass but they seemed like normal parents in Goodbye and Good Riddance. Also I don't think that Ben is bothered by Gwen's overachieving because he's a somewhat smart kid but a major underachiever. Plus I think that Max let Gwen get away with lot more than Ben is because she's shown to be more responsible than him when it comes to not getting into trouble.
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They did, didn't they... a shame, then, that "Goodbye and Good Riddance"(along with "Race Against Time," humorously) is declared as non-canon.
True(though, that obviously doesn't stop him from calling her a "dweeb"). However, the main reason why Ben keeps making stupid decisions(seriously, how many times did he have to learn to "not be selfish" in the original series alone?!) is because the writers won't let him get rid of that Idiot Ball that they're keeping strapped to him.
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Yeah, he doesn't need to keep acting like an idiot for the writers to make some really bad humor. He could act like a competent person and just say funny things or do some funny things by accident or have funny interactions with others.
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True... but then the writers would have to actually be clever with that humor, instead of resorting to cheap gags and showing Ben being a complete moron.
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So true. We need new writers.
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There is no limit to how much I agree.
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no problem i love all your great drawings!
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thats pretty cool i doing a ben 10 multiverse idea has well
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with my pararel earth so far i have done some like earth one the ben 10 story of AF UA and earth two my shane 10 story wear ben 10 secret identity was never reveald and when the earth two ben got old he give the hero role to my hero shane goodman wicth the story is kind of like batman beyound a evil verson of ben shane and rex on earth 3 earth 4 is the gen rex earth and earth 5 is a gender bent ben10 earth so thats five earth i have done
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Cool, I like it, especially your earth 2 story
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thanks in some way i think of ben as barrey alien of earth-one and shane as jay the golden age flash i evan did a picter bace on flash of two worlds with ben and shane runging to save a worker kind of like the sliver age story and have work on the multiverse watchers that are a mix of the wacther from marvel and the monitors from dc comics i evan done the shane 10 story on fanficion
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And this has gotten me thinking into writing a great crossover!
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Cool, what kind of crossover ?
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Of your ben 10 meeting my ben 10
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Yeah and how is this for an idea, our bens travel the Multiverse to meet other different kinds of Bens.
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Yeah that's it! My ben, Your Ben, OS Ben, and of course.....Ben 10k! (not the crappy one from UA, the one from the OS)
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Yeah and we could meet Superhero, Anime, Magic, Zombie, Alien, Robot, and Animal Bens to name a few
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This is reminding me of that batman: Brave and the bold episode where Batman meets his other counter parts from different timelines and universes
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oh yeah i forgot about that one, I guess it is kinda like that
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Yep...only it will be more awsome
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