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zigzaggin-goon
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Alright-- I feel like I should talk about this, because it's been the most surprising and most uplifting ride I've ever experienced.
I'll take you guys back to summer 2016.
At that time, I was honestly just minding my business and all that jazz. I think this was around the time dA enacted that live feed pop-up function-- and I thought it was pretty interesting to see people visiting my profile in real time.
But then there was always this one username popping up for me--
Beomundi
And at first-- I didn't really think of it.
They watched me and prolly really liked my art LOL
It kept happening every so often, until I finally thought-- WHO IS THIS PERSON LOL, AND WHY THEY KEEP CHECKING ME OUT xD
I go to their profile and the first thing I see...
Is this
NOW-- You know, obviously I was quite shocked
I was at a lost of words. You can ask behemutt , I was just-- flabbergasted LOL
I decided to check their gallery, and I come to find out that they've been using my oc Bosco as a uh-- 'Model' or ref for their OC Mike.
And after a while of browsing their account... I became... Well, upset!
It's a normal response I think and I was just stewing on the fact that this was happening
and it was the first time it has ever happened to me
I gathered all the images that resembled him and made an evidence thing-- in case I needed to 'call them out'
*note: the top left was a gift for me, and I hadn't seen it until I checked their gallery!! (I think it was due to them not mentioning me or uh not telling me about it)
THIS WAS MY FIRST TIME HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS
AND AT THE SAME TIME THO-- I really rEALLY DIDN'T WANT TO START SOME CALL OUT OR SOMETHING HHH
Soon, I managed to calm myself and noted them about it
To which they responded with:
I took out the personal parts of the note, but yEAH
I was-- taken aback because I honestly was thinking they'd be on the defensive or something
I'll admit that I was thinking too pessimistically about the situation, so I thought it was going to be just-- aWFUL SOBSS
But I was relieved that it was more like-- admiration that was just mishandled.
so I basically noted them again the next day (added their response as well!)
After that, they removed the images and we continued back and forth with notes and details
Then eventually I sent them a redesign!!
They were happy with it, and I was happy that they were hAPPY ; V ; /
Hans decided they were going to tinker and draw some stuff up and show me afterwards, which I was very okay with u v u
They recently noted me with the changes and I'm really happy with the outcome!
At this point, I've watched them now because they honestly left such an impact on me, and I want to continue to see them grow and improve!
They're so sweet and were willing to work with me on this. AND I WANT THEM TO FLOURISH AND BE AS GREAT AT ART AS THEY DESIRE TO BE AAA
Here is the redesign I made them along with a word from Beomundi <333
with that all said, I just want to say that
If you are an artist who has their OC copied or stolen
Please, PLEASE be rational and calm about it.
I'm sure there's many peeps out there like Hans who just do it because they truly admire your work
and just-- fumble a bit when showing that admiration!
If you just straight up be rude to them from the beginning
chances are, they're going to give you that same attitude back + more LOL
If you're a young starting artist or don't have as much experience as your peers
Let me reiterate-- It's OKAY to trace or copy AS LONG AS YOU KEEP IT TO YOURSELF
It's not immediately bad if you're just doing it to improve or find your style
Or build up your potential
It is bad if you take that copied art and claim it as yours or use the likeliness of someone else's character for your own character.
A lot of artists will understand if you just acknowledge what you did was wrong and learn from it!
Now-- I know there are peeps tho who legitimately act like they are the ones who created the copied/traced art and are even downright rude about it
To that I say, just don't stoop to their level.
Try to talk to them as much as you can in as much of a calm tone you can.
Only take matters into your own hands if they block you, don't stop, ignore you, etc. (then make whatever steps you need to do in order to get them to desist)
Because at least you can say you tried to be lenient-- you tried to be nice about it.
At the end of the day-- people make mistakes.
It's the ones that accept that they're wrong and improve from it that are the most mature and respectful
and that's something I for one, can really fricken admire!
Thank you if you've gotten to the end of this-- I just really needed to get this out ; v ;
My heart just swells so much seeing so much kindness on this site-- its a breath of fresh air out of the dramas of deviantARTTM
For each bad thing out there happening, there's always a genuine good that sprouts out~
And it's good things like this that really make it worth being on this site.
Again, I have to thank Beomundi for being such a great person and an awesome example of what a bit of respect can do for someone!
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Comments: 49
ADragonSoulArt [2017-05-28 05:45:17 +0000 UTC]
I really just gotta say thanks for sharing this, hopefully more people will go down the more calm and respectful route.
More people need to remember that their is another human being with their own story on the other side of the screen.
I've never been in either side of a scenario like this but I've seen it happen where the person who's character was "stolen" by some one who frequently visited their page and they over reacted greatly by practically non-stop attacking the person and doing some big dramatic call-out journal for just color picking colors off of their character and claiming it looked just like theirs (even though it didn't...) They kept on attacking them to the point where the kid deactivate their account. It was very sad to see and I really do hope the kid is okay, they really looked like they looked up to the artist who just ended up attacking them for just looking up to them.
Their were also people who watched the artist who appeared to blindly agreed with the artist just because they're popular and even went after the kid themselves.
Thankfully their were still people who defended the kid and tried to support them but sadly the kid still deactivated their account in the end.
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LiversOnTheMoon [2017-05-15 04:19:36 +0000 UTC]
<3 <3 <3 awww, this made my night reading this. I'm so glad it had a happy ending.
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cryptidCore [2017-05-09 02:05:35 +0000 UTC]
honestly this made my day 10 times better. you're too sweet for this world
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to cryptidCore [2017-05-09 03:06:12 +0000 UTC]
AWW I'M GLAD IT DID ; V ; /
!!!
sobs hARD-- THANK YOU
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vladimirsangel [2017-05-08 08:35:29 +0000 UTC]
You are the best. Actually both of you guys handled this amazingly.
In the face of drama this is the most wonderful outcome
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to vladimirsangel [2017-05-08 17:39:37 +0000 UTC]
AA THANKS ; V ; / And yeah it is mm
aLSO YOUR ICON IS SUPER NICE HECKKKKK
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vladimirsangel In reply to zigzaggin-goon [2017-05-08 17:52:52 +0000 UTC]
I know right? Go hit up H1D1NG for one they're awesome
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MonsterFaye [2017-05-08 01:20:57 +0000 UTC]
What a great outcome ;v; Both of you set such a beautiful example for both more experienced artists and younger ones trying to figure things out; well done!
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to MonsterFaye [2017-05-08 01:22:56 +0000 UTC]
sOBS THANKS KURO
I hope with this, others can find a better resolution for similar circumstances mm
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Retro-Kaiju [2017-05-08 01:00:08 +0000 UTC]
this
this is heartwarming and tells me that people in the art community aren't all that bad hhh
i am a victim of people ripping off my personal designs mostly for adopts and it makes me really sad :/
im mostly agressive or goes straight up to the point bc it has happened to me many times, not from designs but also heavily refrerencing my artwork and reposting without my permission so it's hard for me to be tHIS KIND HHHH
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to Retro-Kaiju [2017-05-08 01:21:05 +0000 UTC]
Yeah hhh
it sucks-- I don't blame you to having to resort to acting that way sighsss
I wish those types of peeps would just think of their actions better hhh
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Retro-Kaiju In reply to zigzaggin-goon [2017-05-08 01:33:48 +0000 UTC]
tbh I'd love to meet people like this but life says no to me c:
so I get the really shitty ones who make up so many excuses and play that damn victim card to escape it, hell sometimes they go as far as "omg I'm going to kill myself" like can you not????
and this is coming from a person who almost committed suicide
why do people use these to escape their mistakes :'))))))
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to Skollyson [2017-05-08 01:20:04 +0000 UTC]
u v u <3333
*and holds yOU CLOSE TO MY HEART*
//slAPPED
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MaryLittleRose [2017-05-07 23:59:53 +0000 UTC]
Aahh this was so nice to read, I didn't expect that sweet turn!
and I just admire how well you took the situation, specially when you offered to re-design their character,, that was a great idea ;v;
I hope that more situations like this were taken so calm and kindly like this one!
//faST CLAPPING////
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to MaryLittleRose [2017-05-08 01:11:51 +0000 UTC]
aAA THANKS MARY!!!
Yeah, it's why I had to be like-- rEAD THE WHOLE THING GUYSSSS
And sHUCKS It was nothin ; v ; I did what I thought would be less problematic!
I HOPE SO TOO MAN HH
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Litt1eRed [2017-05-07 23:50:51 +0000 UTC]
*Points aggressively at this* This! This is absolutely precious omg. It makes my heart so happy to see that the world isn't such a bad place! I'm always ALWAYS striving to be as kind to people as possible. As someone that was bullied and harassed, being kind to people means the world to me! Thank you for sharing this! <3
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to Litt1eRed [2017-05-08 00:22:28 +0000 UTC]
Aww dude, I'm sorry to hear that you've been bullied n harassed before-- I hOPE THINGS ARE BETTER FOR YOU MAN
KINDESS GOES A LONG WAY AAA
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Litt1eRed In reply to zigzaggin-goon [2017-05-08 00:25:03 +0000 UTC]
That's okay, personally from the bad stuff, I've learned how to be a better person! And it has gotten better now that I'm an adult! And oh man it definitely does! I wish more people would embrace that! Everything would be so much better!
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vulutrn [2017-05-07 23:38:35 +0000 UTC]
this is so great honestly ;o;
like the way you handled it is so??? wonderful
we need more people like you
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to vulutrn [2017-05-07 23:49:07 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you think so ; v ; /
aND SOBSSSS
I'M JUST SHOWING COMMON COURTESY-- THANK YOU THO SOBSSS
THIS SITE WOULD PROLLY BE LESS PROBLEMATIC IF PEEPS JUST--
CHILLED OUT LOL
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porcuMoose [2017-05-07 23:34:44 +0000 UTC]
AWW THIS IS TOO GREAT TO READ HONESTLY ...
I remember tracing pokemon and stuff as a kid; I didn't know how to print so I just, taped a piece of paper on the damn computer and literally traced it directly off the screen omfg. we all must've done that at some point in time and never posted it anywhere, and the artist never knows and you're just a kid so no one's hurt.
Being civilized and not going into a complete rage when you find out someone traces your work or OC is definitely the wrong way to take it, especially if the person is doing it purely out of innocent intentions, such as Hans.
This is such a good journal man, I'm glad everything went so well, and the new Mike looks awesome. 👌
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to porcuMoose [2017-05-07 23:46:32 +0000 UTC]
NO DUDE
I DID THAT TOO
I literally would just hold a piece of printer paper to the screen and just-- tRACE AKFNCKSDF
Thankfully for me tho, I learned about how it's not good about claiming copied stuff or posting it before I was able to actually post my art online
sO I never offended anyone in that sense
And yeah-- I feel emotions can just-- make things get outta hand
Peeps just need to step back, and breeeeeathe
just like I dID LOL
AND AA THANKS MAN-- I'm happy with how he looks too hECK
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nocturnalraptor [2017-05-07 23:31:37 +0000 UTC]
This is fantastic. You both handled this superbly and it's very admirable! I've had something similar happen and we both resolved it amicably as well. ♥
Truth is, I wish more people had this mindset. It's become of a shoot first, talk later thing as of late and I wish it would change. ;;
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to nocturnalraptor [2017-05-07 23:38:42 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I wish it would too hhh
THERE ARE GOOD SEEDS OUT THERE SOBSSS
And yeah! I'm pretty happy with the outcome too
If it happens again, I hope it can be resolved like this again
I'm willing to work with the offender, if they're willing to work with me.
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Beomundi [2017-05-07 23:31:28 +0000 UTC]
OH MY GOOD GOD THE WARM FUZZIES ARE COMING OUT STRONG NOW, I THINK I MIGHT ACTUALLY START CRYING TEARS OF JOY
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Beomundi In reply to zigzaggin-goon [2017-05-07 23:42:37 +0000 UTC]
ALSO SOBS AND HUGS AND HAPPY SOUNDS OF JOY!!
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mute-owl [2017-05-07 23:26:03 +0000 UTC]
i always take the route that people just dont realize what theyve done. very few people actually do these thing malociously.
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to mute-owl [2017-05-07 23:35:40 +0000 UTC]
Exactly! Sometimes they're too young to really understand art etiquette and it ends up just being a huge misunderstanding
and when tension is high, people act extremely different from how they would if they just thought their actions through.
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Confident-Coward [2017-05-07 23:24:36 +0000 UTC]
This makes me really happy!! I really hate when people handle these things poorly.
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to Confident-Coward [2017-05-07 23:33:50 +0000 UTC]
Same!! Often times it just-- doesn't work out for anyone soBSS
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NinGeko [2017-05-07 23:21:15 +0000 UTC]
I LOVE THIS
THANK YOU FOR THIS
QUQ WE NEED MORE OF THIS
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to NinGeko [2017-05-07 23:23:30 +0000 UTC]
I DO TOO MAN
NO PROBLEM NIN, there needs to be more positivity in this community MM
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Beomundi [2017-05-07 23:20:59 +0000 UTC]
you my good god, you have been so kind to me through all of this, and I can't thank you enough
*shakes with joy, slightly teary eyed*
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to Beomundi [2017-05-07 23:22:40 +0000 UTC]
Hans-- I'm a firm believer of karma, and honestly you're dOING THINGS RIGHT!!
Be kind to others and you'll get that kindness back <3
Thank you for being such a team player u v u /
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Beomundi In reply to zigzaggin-goon [2017-05-07 23:27:03 +0000 UTC]
and thank you for being so understanding and helping me with Michael, like
he has become my boy and I don't know what I would do without him or if this didn't happened
I never imagined I'd be talking to one of my inspirations like this and especially after I screwed up so badly
THANK YOU SOO MUCH
I still want to send you more about him and tell you more and tell you about my plans for the future, I FEEL SO READY FOR THIS
THANK YOU FOR SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to Beomundi [2017-05-07 23:32:55 +0000 UTC]
SCREAMS LOUDLY-- YOU'RE SUCH AN ANGEL MAN
//SQUISHES YER CHEEKS
I get super giddy when I read your responses sOBSSS
You're just so energetic and happy aND IT'S SUPER CONTAGIOUS AAA
Like I said before, the fact that you were willing to work with me throughout this really moved me
so despite the blunder, you really did show that you weren't out for stealing ocs or anything
and you were willing to take responsibility for what you did. And I can respect that.
AND PLEASE DO!! I look forward to hearing about Mike and his endeavours!!
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Beomundi In reply to zigzaggin-goon [2017-05-07 23:37:45 +0000 UTC]
thank you thank you thank you
honestly, everytime I got a note or a replie back from you it was so encouraging and motivating it was insane, I can't thank you enough for that
AND IM GOING TO GET RIGHT ON WITH THE OTHER THINGS I WANT TO SHOW YOU RIGHT AWAY BUT I CAN'T SAY HOW LONG ITS GONNA TAKE SO PLEASE BE PATIENCE WITH ME
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to Beomundi [2017-05-07 23:39:57 +0000 UTC]
I'M GLAD AA
And not a problem yo~ You take your time!
School and IRL things come first!!
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Beomundi In reply to zigzaggin-goon [2017-05-07 23:43:20 +0000 UTC]
YUP!!
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH!!!
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Hap-py [2017-05-07 23:17:46 +0000 UTC]
Dude thats awesome! Gotta love it when things work out!
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to Hap-py [2017-05-07 23:19:41 +0000 UTC]
SAME MAN AAA
BLESS THEM SO MUCH SOBSS
I really wish things like this happened more often
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Hap-py In reply to zigzaggin-goon [2017-05-07 23:23:22 +0000 UTC]
There was a cute thing that happened just like this a while ago, just something warm hearted. Nothing related to this, but yeah supporting the younger artists usually does make it a bit better out there.
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zigzaggin-goon In reply to Hap-py [2017-05-07 23:28:01 +0000 UTC]
OH NOOOOOO
I'M C RYINGGG
THAT'S SO CUTE AND SWEET
PURE CONTENT MAN
Thank you for sharing that!! How awesome of you Happy!!! ; v ; /
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Hap-py In reply to zigzaggin-goon [2017-05-07 23:30:34 +0000 UTC]
yeah some good things can really happen on this site, just have to keep on trucking through. you and hans, awesome.. just awesome, you guys are both wonderful.
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