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Description Cluttered, crowded pic of Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, and several other recurring characters from the Mario universe.

One thing that makes the Mario series better than the Sonic series(in my opinion, and besides controls, voices, and fun factor) is that it's enemies are still a big part of the series. Goombas appear in nearly every game(besides SMB2 and Super Mario Sunshine....that's it, I think), as do Koopa Troopas, Piranha Plants, Bullet Bills, etc. Shy Guys(my favorite!) have, since SMB2, become extremely talented, and in their second game, SMW2:YI, have now more than 20 different varieties, ranging from gourmets to flying gardeners. Then Sonic series always has new enemies in each installment(for the most part), and in recent games, there are only 6-8 different enemy types.

On the downside, Mario is rather undeveloped. Sure, we know he loves pasta, but that's about it. Oh, cake, too. Don't forget cake.

Flat shaded cuz I'm lazy. For the first time ever, I'm happy with my pic of Waluigi! Yosh!!
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Comments: 353

SHABALABALIBA [2009-11-21 20:11:47 +0000 UTC]

Awesome drawing man!

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darklink39 [2009-11-19 04:31:40 +0000 UTC]

ha xD amazing

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Chester93 In reply to ??? [2009-11-15 21:56:33 +0000 UTC]

Haha wow, I totally love your style.

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lumaluna101 In reply to ??? [2009-11-07 14:12:25 +0000 UTC]

AESOME!!!!!! I'm jealous! xD

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itsScoot In reply to ??? [2009-09-29 05:46:33 +0000 UTC]

Haha omg a fuzzy i havent seen them since paper mario 1-2

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Talenca In reply to ??? [2009-09-27 20:59:24 +0000 UTC]

lol Warios like, "im gonna kick the sh*t outta you!" XD

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hfbn2 [2009-09-20 22:42:42 +0000 UTC]

awesome

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Mutoh In reply to ??? [2009-08-20 22:31:33 +0000 UTC]

ENTERPRAIZ!

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FroggysHop [2009-07-29 22:46:25 +0000 UTC]

Nice job, but where's Fawful?

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iloveluigi22 [2009-07-26 21:49:19 +0000 UTC]

weres diddy kong ? lol it looks uncomfterbul for everyone lol very good

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alphaguy50 [2009-07-07 16:06:23 +0000 UTC]

friggin sweet hehehehehe

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EmperorKarino [2009-06-29 00:45:43 +0000 UTC]

good job

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DimentioFanGirl9999 [2009-05-22 03:35:59 +0000 UTC]

cool! u put Petey Priana in there!

is Petey a girl or boy?

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EnterPraiz In reply to DimentioFanGirl9999 [2009-05-22 05:49:14 +0000 UTC]

Depends where you're from. I know in Germany, he's a girl, but I think he's generally accepted as male.

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DimentioFanGirl9999 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-05-24 03:29:54 +0000 UTC]

Petey seems more like a girl

a boy being a flower and screaming like a girl?!?

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EnterPraiz In reply to DimentioFanGirl9999 [2009-05-24 06:59:56 +0000 UTC]

Considering Petey is short(not really) for the male name Peter, I'm assuming he is male. Course, in Japan, he's not Petey at all; he's simply referred to as Boss Pakkun(Pakkun being the Japanese name for Piranha Plants), making him somewhat generic and gender-ambiguous. But I'm assuming he follows the general enemy rule of "unless specified it's a guy", though. King Boo actually has a similar name difference(ie in Japan he is "Boss Teresa" not "King Teresa"). I generally assume unless I see eyelashes or breasts, unless stated otherwise(see Mrs. Thwomp from M&L: PiT), a character is male. Besides, if Petey were a girl I don't think Nintendo'd let him run around with no shirt on. ^^

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DimentioFanGirl9999 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-05-24 17:09:35 +0000 UTC]

true... but how can Petey have eye lashes when it has no eyes?

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EnterPraiz In reply to DimentioFanGirl9999 [2009-05-24 19:38:36 +0000 UTC]

No idea, but Naval Piranha is the same way, and she's a girl.

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RocMegamanX [2009-05-14 12:55:10 +0000 UTC]

I can't believe that I didn't fave this until now. You have a talent for doing group drawings. Too bad I can't say the same for myself.

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supersaiyancecilyS [2009-05-12 18:37:16 +0000 UTC]

thats really good!!!!

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Timwow [2009-05-06 15:09:13 +0000 UTC]

NICE PITURE..

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Smiley12-34 [2009-04-23 16:19:21 +0000 UTC]

Must of took you a long time to do that.... but it's worth it.

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evvelevve [2009-04-19 13:46:00 +0000 UTC]

haha.... love the way you drew them XD its like wow!!


Ps: nintendo rool sorry for my bad eng

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Sweet-Chibi In reply to ??? [2009-03-25 02:12:02 +0000 UTC]

LOL Really awsome.
I lurves your choice of expressions. =3

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saruto-uzumaki In reply to ??? [2009-03-10 00:31:46 +0000 UTC]

i love how you made petty the piraha plat x3 he looks so... not threatening xDD

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LuigiLuvsNat [2009-01-27 09:30:47 +0000 UTC]

luigi looks adorable there ^^ nice job

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XPRiku [2009-01-08 23:43:58 +0000 UTC]

...Is that Blooper hitting on Daisy?

Nice! XD

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Mike2468 [2009-01-06 23:19:30 +0000 UTC]

Is the flat shading the reason why this is in scraps?

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EnterPraiz In reply to Mike2468 [2009-01-07 01:13:44 +0000 UTC]

That, and it's old.

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Mike2468 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-01-07 02:18:44 +0000 UTC]

Ah.

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Richard999 In reply to ??? [2009-01-06 03:07:59 +0000 UTC]

I like this picture, but what is that fat, green thingy next to Peach?

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EnterPraiz In reply to Richard999 [2009-01-06 13:58:44 +0000 UTC]

That's Spike, a small enemy from SMB3 that would spit up spiked balls and throw them at you. They also appear in Yoshi's Island and Yoshi's Story(under their Japanese name "Gabon", oddly enough), and it's a safe guess that the Clubbas from the Paper Mario games are based on them.

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Richard999 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-01-07 21:32:19 +0000 UTC]

Who thought that looked like Klubba? From Donkey Kong Country 2?
And I also think Waluigi is more important then him.

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EnterPraiz In reply to Richard999 [2009-01-08 15:00:49 +0000 UTC]

No, I said Clubba(with a C, not K). It's an enemy from Paper Mario that beats you with a spiked club(or mace, if you wanna break balls). Waluigi has yet to appear in a non-spin-off game. As of Mariokart Wii, Waluigi is the only character besides Baby Daisy(who I'm not counting since this was her first appearance) who hasn't been personally present(the little Waluigi scribbles in the smelly stick mini-game from Smooth Moves don't count). Waluigi is simply an extra character to play as. You may like him, but that doesn't make him important. Spike isn't impotant as an enemy, but he wasn't solely created to make a playable character roster(and give Wario and Luigi a doubles partner and poor excuse for a rival, respectively) bigger. It an enemy that been in at least three actual Mario-related non-party games, and that's 3 more actual non-party games than Waluigi's been in. If he's trying to exaggerate Luigi's rate of playable appearances, he's doing a damn good job. That might actually be the point.

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Richard999 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-01-08 23:21:44 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry, just omeone else said that he looked like Clubba, and I thought Klubba (and 'Is this guy blind?). I miss Klubba. I like him and the other Kremlings. Good thing they brought K. Rool and some Kremlings for Mario Sluggers. AS for the Waluigi vs. Spike, I still believe Spike leaves before the Waluigi. Nintendo may not have put him into a non-spinoff, but they developed his little purple ass off. Spike may have been an emeny, he only was seen once. Waluigi has been pooping up everywhere except for adventures. In fact, I think Baby Daisy is more important then Waluigi. I know she';s in two games, but Spike was a non-playable character in one games. I'm just saying.

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EnterPraiz In reply to Richard999 [2009-01-09 00:37:31 +0000 UTC]

Waluigi probably has more games to his credit, but he's hardly developed. Most Mario characters aren't. But it still stands that Spike is a recurring Mario series enemy, like Chomp, or Shy Guy. He's not as regular to the series as Goombas or Koopas, but he's been around since SMB3, reappeared in Yoshi's Island, was re-named(not really, technically, Gabon is Spike's Japanese name) in Yoshi's Story, and more recently, a snowball hurling variant has appeared in New SMB. Waluigi has been in every Mario Party since the 3rd installment, half of the Mario Kart games(I think), and pretty much all the sports games(I don't keep track of them, honestly), and yet he's still just bizarro Luigi.
It's hard to compare a minor enemy to a seemingly "major" character, but Spike has something Waluigi only appears to have: History. As of this moment, after however many years, we still have no idea where he came from, how he's related to Wario(don't tell me he's his brother, cause it's never ever been clarified), and what exactly he has against Luigi. Personally, I like to think Waluigi was a shut-in named Richard Rotten(thumbs up if you get the reference) that was a huge fan of Wario and wanted to emulate his hatred or a particular person. Not being very original, he followed in his idols footsteps and went for the Mario Bros., but not wanting to steal Wario's gimmick entirely, targeted the younger, less frequently seen sibling. The first few years were easy, but it soon became a trend for Luigi to only appear in spin-offs, an thusly he finally stepped into the public's eye after a chance meeting with his role model. Luigi himself was reportedly "not afraid".
In that extremely minimal(though rife with pompous air) paragraph I developed Waluigi more than any either Mario series character. Sure, Waluigi's playable, but he really doesn't need to be there, at all. The same can be said of enemies, I suppose. Waluigi is basically like Plum from Mario Golf 64, except he tries to actually fit in by emulating other regulars and it all just screams fan-character, in all honesty. I like the guy, sure(most Mario fans don't, to my knowledge), but the fact remains his entire existance is a joke.

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Richard999 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-01-09 01:56:09 +0000 UTC]

I get what you're saying, and I will respond with yet another long annoying paragraph. Waluigi can be pointless at times, but he is very developed. People can descirbe Mario as heroic and brave, Luigi, is cowardly and fun, Wario is greedy and mean, and Waluigi is well known as a sneaky little cheater (as said in Mario Sluggers, Strikers Charged, Mario Party(s), and Mario Power Tennis. I didn't even know who Spike was, and I beat SMB3 and New SMB. And when you say that Waluigi is pointless, I say he was pointless in the first few games he popped up in. He is now a landmark player, was a boss in Mario Dance Dance Revolution (do you want to know pointless? DDR Mario Mix), and the player that many Mario fans head straight for to unlock He is different then Plum, too, as i actually know who he is.
I'm just saying (again) that once I see Spike as a fan in the baseball crowd, or a sidekick in Charged, I will join you. But for now, The Purple Pest will beat out any spike-ball spitting guy. And by the way, I don't approve of that Richard Rotten comparison. You know, my name is Richard (with the title RICHARD999) and even though I am tall, lanky, perverted, and very fond of the color purple, I am not a Wario follower who seeks revenge on Luigi. I am too awesome for that stuff.

I bet the people who are looking at your picture, scrolling down to see some comments, and seeing the novel that you and I are writing.

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EnterPraiz In reply to Richard999 [2009-01-09 14:58:54 +0000 UTC]

Chill dude, The Richard Rotten gag was a pun on Dick Dastardly, an old(and awesome) cartoon character Waluigi bears a slight(or major) resemblance to(He also sounds a lot like Wario used to in the Mario Land 2 and 3 commercials).
I also forgot they started making Waluigi a reference to Wrecking Crew, possibly because of his resemblance to Foreman Spike(the name is a coincidence, I swear)...Or rather, his redesign from Wrecking crew '98. That's probably where the Gold Mantis(Foreman Spike was a construction worker; I forget the name of his construction vehicle...if it had one) and his newfound fondness for eggplant(as in Eggplant Man). Spike used to where purple orginally, but wore mostly black in WC '98.
The enemy Spike is one of the more obscure ones. Not as obscure as Flame Chomp, Buster Beetle, or Grim Leecher, but still fairly rare. They're about as common as Bloopers, though. It's quite common for Mario enemies to disappear for several games before resurfacing.
I believe they first appear in World 5 in SMB3. In official art, they're depicted with little white tufts of hair(excluding Gabon and the snowball rolling variant in New SMB), but to my knowledge, they've never had it in a 2D Mario game. Clubbas, on the other hand, have always been depicted with it, in every Paper Mario game. If you've played Mario and Luigi, one of the first bosses you fight is Tolstar, who, like many enemies in the game, seems to be a Bean Bean version of a classic Mario enemy, and he attacks by throwing spiked balls at the brothers(I forget if he pulls them out of his mouth, but I doubt it). Wings aside, he looks and behaves like a Spike.
As for this novel...It's gonna take at least few days to get down to it. This stupid pic gets way more comments than it deserves for simply containing an absurd number of Mario characters.

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Richard999 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-01-09 21:15:21 +0000 UTC]

Dick Dastardly is a beats. I watch his show if its on, and he does remind me of Waluigi. i'm just not that smart, and I couldn't get the Richard Rotten thing. to tell you the truth, one of my friends actually said I was acting too much like Waluigi at a time.
As for the enemy stuff. I do think Spike was in World 5. I hated that level. I actually think Bloopers are more common than Spikes. He's been a Mario Party-er, and baseball player, and pretty big enemy in the New SMB. Tolstar... that name sounds familiar. Was he in Partners in Crime or Superstar Saga? I have them both, and I'm pretty sure it was the one without the babies. What place was he in?
Now back to Waluigi. He has his pros and he has his cons. When you brought up history, and I brought up development. Its just the question of which is more important. This novel is going good in my opinion. I can type up to 20 more. Your move.

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EnterPraiz In reply to Richard999 [2009-01-09 22:04:13 +0000 UTC]

I made a mistake again. Spike ( [link] )first appears in world 3(which is my favorite world and I'm sort of ashamed I forgot because of it), and again in world 6. They only appear in the BLIZZARD!!! level in Yoshi's Island(don't go bragging about them appearing in a single level, cause Goombas got the same treatment). They seem to have an affinity for ice-based worlds, it would seem. I guess that's why some people call them Mace Penguins. I've never played it myself, but I also hear they appear in Super Princess Peach(which used some of the more obscure enemies, like Torpedo Ted).
Tolstar( [link] ) is the boss of Stardust Fields in Superstar Saga. The fat, pink maned guy who makes you scare up money to get Bowser out of the cannon. Blooper actually disappeared for a while after SMB3(remember, I'm not counting party games as meaningful appearances, since he very well could've been Shy Guy, or Koopa Troopa, or Birdo, etc...though why they started using him of all enemies perplexes me), and only showed up in RPGs until Sunshine released.
Waluigi is a playable character, yes. He has some odd, unexplained connection to Wario(even though the dude's a jerk and hates anyone who isn't him for the most part, he sure does have a load of buddies that stick by him...weird, eh?). But his impact on the series is non-existant. Spike is a mere stompable foot soldier sure, but as a minion under Bowser's command, he has impeded the progress of heroes that defy his master's schemes. He plays a larger role in the series, and Waluigi does not. Even Daisy has played the role of plot device, and Toadette appears in the intro to Galaxy(it's nothing huge, but it's SOMETHING). I honestly think Waluigi is the result of Luigi's(or perhaps Wario's) fanbase. Maybe it's supposed to be a humorous riffing on Luigi's lack of actual roles since the loss of "2P" type gameplay. Luigi has a lack of starring roles, and when he does have them, he usually gets made fun of for it. Since Waluigi is a stereotypically exaggerated version of him, the joke is that he'll never have a meaningful appearance ever. Or maybe he's just really lazy, and only likes to make Luigi look like a chump...which isn't often cause the guy doesn't do much anymore.

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Richard999 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-01-10 01:10:57 +0000 UTC]

I thought you were right about the World 5 thing. I remember them being annoying and killing me constantly. Tolstar was a pain in the ass, too, as he REALLY pissed me off when I played it the first time.
i noticed something. You are a "ADVENTURE" Mario player type (that I just made up right now). It's not an insult, it just means that you prefer the actual adventure of Mario more than just messing around. Am I right, because I think I'm right. I play Mario as the "PARTY-ER" type. I like adventure games, but my favorites are the Mario Karts, Mario Sports, and Mario Parties. This is why I say Waluigi stays, and that's why you say Spike should stay. I guess we could just talk on and on and on about who should stay in an image, but I'll only do it if you don't want to. Let the people who read our debate decide for themselves (or they could post it as a comment! Waluigi or Spike? YOU DECIDE!). However, I am waiting for Nintendo to FINALLY put Waluigi in an adventure (with the babies, the Kremlings, the Kongs, and Daisy and Rosalina) and make it the next Galaxy.


(Sorry about the two big sections in the paraentheises. For the first one, I'm just trying to get ya some views and comments. For the second ones, it's just a list of who should be in the next Mario adventure. Isn't it a great list?)

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EnterPraiz In reply to Richard999 [2009-01-10 02:58:45 +0000 UTC]

That'd explain a lot. The thing about the party games is that characters aside, it could mostly be anything else, and the characters' popularity is used as a way to sell more games. It's a pretty sell-out marketing move, sure, but if it gave us Smash Bros., then I don't see the harm.
I always hate when companies needlessly make new characters instead of working with the great ones they already have. As far as I know, Mario DDR is about the closest Waluigi's ever going to get to a starring role, I'm afraid...but I wouldn't trust my assumptions if I were somebody that's not me. If my theories were right half the cast of the Sonic series wouldn't be around...

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Richard999 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-01-10 22:01:10 +0000 UTC]

I completely forgot that Brawl was a Mario Party-ish game. I'm not saying its a lot like Mario Party, but it has a small plot and is more fun when you just goof off with friends. And our debate is nothing compared to the MILES of Intrenet pages complaining about if Waluigi should be playable in Brawl. We can save that arguement for another day.
I think that the Mario series has stopped making a whole lot of new characters after Paper Mario. With the characters from Galaxy and Paper Mario, you know that most aren't going to go anywhere. For exapmle, Rosalina was in Mario Kart Wii, and we'll probalby see Dino Pirahnna again (due to his intrenet popularity). I don't have Paper Mario, so I'm not sure if they can make a comeback or not. I am aware of Mr. L's popualrity, and I'd be happy to see him in 3-D. But, they did use a lot of old Mario enemies in Galaxy (goombas, bullet bills, etc.) along with the new ones they mixed in.
I hate Sonic. He sucks along with all his games. Scrolling across dA, I can see that Sega went waaaay overboard with Sonic's cast. Those 'tards.

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EnterPraiz In reply to Richard999 [2009-01-10 23:38:39 +0000 UTC]

Actually, what I meant was that originally, theSSB series was going to involve original characters, but Nintendo eventually thought it'd be better(especially for sales) if they used the more popular characters instead. It's kind of safe to say that without this decision, "Dragon King" would've never left Japan.
Assist Trophies, supposedly, were a way to incorporate more characters from other series that didn't fit the brawling mood, like Animal Crossing, or more widely known characters that would've fit in, but they couldn't come up with a decent moveset for, like Golden Sun's Issac(because we need more caped swordsmen...), Drill Dozer's Jill(As much as I wanted her to be playable, because her game is awesome, I'm happy she's even in the game at all. I wish more people had my attitude about it), and Waluigi, who is laughably portrayed weilding his Tennis racket(it's laughable because appearing in Mario Tennis 64 IS the most significant moment of his existance...he IS one of the better ATs, though).
Nintendo seems really keen on referencing SMB3 lately.

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Richard999 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-01-11 01:54:03 +0000 UTC]

I get what you mean. I think it was a great idea to put all of Nintendo together. Sonic and Snake are okay additions if you ask me (although Sonic is EXTREMLY cheapand I hate him and all of his junkies). I would actually be really excited if they threw in an Animal Crossing guy. I can imagine Tom Nook beatin' the crap out of Link (who I hate as much as Sonic, sorry if you're a fan). And Waluigi is one of the best of the AT's! That girl who jumps out of nowhere and kills a random guy is pretty great, and the guy with the hands is too cheap. My next picks for brawl are (in case you wanted to know) Striker Daisy, Tom Nook, and King K. Rool. I'm not sur how, but we got on the Brawl subject, and I had to put that in. I have noticed the SMB3 refs, but they should bring the Raccoon Leaf back into a game. Or the cape.

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EnterPraiz In reply to Richard999 [2009-01-13 16:28:41 +0000 UTC]

Nintendo is certainly guilty of whoring out Mario, but at least for the most part the cash-cow games are half-decent.
Prior to Brawl's release, I saw a pretty well-done "Captain Falcon" SSBB site profile page. It was Tom Nook wearing Falcon's helmet and a blue padded suit. He was, however, about DK's size...
Waluigi's definitely up there for ATs. He's not as reliable as Knuckle Joe or Little Mac for a KO, and he's pretty easy to run from. But he can get you one fairly easy, at least, and he doesn't have Mac's bad habit of doing nothing and jumping off the stage. In my experiance, he tends to wiff at least one of the stomp attacks and then he hits somebody else with the finisher... T_T
I kinda like that Mario got a new flying power-up in each game(which normally adorns the cover)...But I do miss the feather in Mariokart. I could've avoided so many red shells if I could hop a wall...

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Richard999 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-01-13 20:17:54 +0000 UTC]

Nintendo is okay with me when they make Mario do stupid crap as long as it's fun. I don't get to intricate with Mario and Luigi, and I don't even care if there are crappy graphics.
I also don't really care about which AT can kill you best, as long as it kills you. I've lost to every single assist trophy, except for the Devil, who is too gay. I have been killed by Stafy when I played a 300% match, I ran off the edge when I saw the Nintendog appear right in front of me, I have been blown up by Resetti, too (he blows up sometimes and will KO you if you stand too near).
I have also notcied Brawl had something against Donkey Kong Country. They did add Diddy Kong (who I kick ass with) and enhanced DK a bit, but I'm still not happy. They could have added a Kremling as an assist trophy (they made a Hammer Bro an AT), and I really wanted King K. Rool to appear. Even a character in Subspace thing could have pleased me. THey did it to Mario, and I like it, but a Klaptrap or a Zinger in there would have been good. I know with Diddy Kong AND K. Rool new, they would have throw in 2 new characters from one series. That didn't stop them from addin' 2 Kirby characters. I also hope they add another Mario guy, too. They give so much to that series, and they forgot a new character. Maybe Striker Daisy, or Bowser Jr., or even WALUIGI!!!!! I WENT THERE!!!

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EnterPraiz In reply to Richard999 [2009-01-13 23:48:26 +0000 UTC]

Well Nintendo's done their fair-share of innovation, but they could've used original characters for their sports titles and whatnot. They just didn't cause Mario generates more interest on a wider scale. I mean, I doubt I'd ever buy a normal golf game...
As for Brawl, I don't think it's fair to pick on Sakurai for expanding on his personal series in Brawl. He very well could've(and should've, in my opinion) added Dedede in Melee, but he didn't. Instead Melee expanded on some of the bigger series, namely Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon, their top selling franchises. DK wasn't expanded on cause the series more or less died during the N64 era(Melee was a launch title, remember), though I would've liked to see Diddy show up(even if Miyamoto supposedly hates him). Besides, Klap Trap appears in both DK Melee stages. Metroid, though supposedly part of Nintendo's "big three", isn't huge in the playable, or even important character department. Ridley is about the only other Metroid character aside from Samus that is even remotely capable of getting in, and he seems a tad too big for a playable character(I went THERE). I think Samus being the sole Metroid character plays nicely on the "lonely" aspect that permeates through most Metroid games. F-Zero has roughly 40 characters in it, but it's not a particularly huge series. Besides, Captain Falcon is all the series needs. Aside from him, I only see Samurai Goroh(cause he's a rival and original cast member) and Black Shadow(because he's a villain) getting in. Ness nearly got replaced by Lucas. Any other series besides the ones I mentioned earlier are either new, or trying to promote a new game coming out(I assume that was Starfox's deal, and it definitely is true for Fire Emblem).
In any case, I believe Waluigi may be slightly more developed than Spike, but he's also more developed than Goombas, Koopa Troopas, etc. It doesn't mean he's more impotant to the series, though. He's what Toadette was to Toad in Double-Dash: a new character made solely to give somebody else a partner and expand the roster. He has no impact on the series at all. He's done as much to expand the main series as Toadette and Baby Daisy have: NOTHING. That's why I say he's less important.
...He probably has a way better chance at being in the next SSB than Jill, though...

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Richard999 In reply to EnterPraiz [2009-01-14 00:13:23 +0000 UTC]

I don't know about the Melee stand point, because I never played that game (well, I have, but never owned it). I do see what you're saying, as that the big franchises should be made bigger. But I say that Donkey Kong Country should be bigger than it is. DKC2 is my favorite adventure themed game (it's true) and the whole Kong crew was made into trophies for Brawl and that they threw Funky into Mairo Kart Wii and Sluggers and Tiny Kong appeared in Sluggers as well. And checking the Intrenet, more people have like DKC over Metriod. If you want to be technical, Zero Suit Samus was a new character, and she was in Metriod. And they can't put in Ridley, cause when he was a boss in Brawl, he was a giant anerexic dinosaur bird too big for battle. You can go there, since I don't really care for Metriod.
And since we went back to what this massive series of replies with, Waluigi vs. Spike, ou're forgetting that Spike only appeared in one level in one game and could have easily replaced by a Bullet Bill or Boomerang Bro. As I said before, you judge on adventure, I judge on goofing off. I play as Baby Daisy when I play Mario Kart Wii, just because I can. In Sluggers, there was an Adventure mode. Not an Adventure Game, but you still had to battle baddies and save people. It may have been extremly short, but you could choose the world, choose the character, and solve puzzles and stuff. It can count as an adventure, and IT HAD BABY DAISY, TOADETTE AND WALUIGI AND NO SPIKE! It even had K. Rool and Funky Kong and Hammer, Fire, and Boomerang Bros. So, technically, Waluigi did appear in an adventure. A small one, but an adventure.
Who's Jill, Is she from one of those Japan Only games, and you can't fight how cool K. Rool would be in Brawl. More strong than Dedede, with an incredble throw and smash attack. He'd even pull out his musket and shoot out some Kannonballs, he'd chuck barrels, and do other cool stuff. don't even try to argue with me.

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EnterPraiz In reply to Richard999 [2009-01-14 01:52:07 +0000 UTC]

The thing is, most Metroid fans feel it was neglected in Brawl and Melee, and don't count Zero Suit as a truly new character. They also have some crazy idea they could make Ridley smaller and get him into the game that way. It's something you should really take note of, because, moveset potential aside, K. Rool has the same problem. He's bigger than DK(as far as I know), and he's the second largest character in SSB...To be fair I only realized this just now...and it's kinda sad. SSB could use a pirate/scientist/boxer/Auric Goldfinger/whatever split personality that mentally unstable crocodile is claiming nowadays.
Spike was a new enemy with a new attack pattern that provided a new type of challenge. That's the sort of impact enemies provide, though Mario enemies do vary somewhat from game to game. Spike has his place in Mario history alongside the rest of Bowser's army. Plenty of Mario enemies aren't playable, or don't appear in many games. But they've still helped make the games the way they are. No matter how big or how small, enemies in platformers form the majority of the challenge you face. Don't go comparing some gaudy story mode in a sports game to the wide scope of SMB3's epic quest to save the Kings of the various parts of the Mushroom Kingdom and eventually the Princess herself(she actually gets kidnapped while you're doing the former. I actually didn't know about it until recently cause I used to use the Whistles). Aside from DK, all the other DKC characters have done jack in recent years. Being one of many selectable characters in a multiplayer game doesn't help you stand out much.
Jill is the main character from Drill Dozer, a nice old school platformer by the guys who made Pokemon that sadly didn't get as widely recognized as it should have been due to the GBA fading in the tracks of the DS. She's the pinked haired girl in the tiny drill mech that runs across the stage in Brawl. I wanted her to be playable, as far-fetched(there's a pun in there somewhere) as it was. To be honest, I'm surprised she's even in the game at all.

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