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Published: 2013-08-30 22:02:15 +0000 UTC; Views: 1541; Favourites: 19; Downloads: 2
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Comparing Trayvon Martin to Martin Luther King is like comparing Mother Theresa to Jenna Jameson the porn actress!As for Trayvon-
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This ranks right up there with Oprah's brand of outright stupidity-
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What's next? Comparing Obama to Jesu. . .oh wait-
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That's dumb is a TV mini-series that makes Trayvon out to be an innocent victim of a massive hate crime.
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Despite him being a thug who attacked an innocent man my heart goes to parents. No one should have to bury their own child.
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One less thug to worry about.
One Less Thug To Worry About.
ONE LESS THUG TO WORRY ABOUT.
ONE.
LESS.
THUG.
TO.
WORRY.
ABOUT.
...Nope. Still feel no remorse saying it.
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It's a shame a youth had to die, but hey, shit like this happens all the time. Why is Trayvon Martin different?
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Because in a modern rarity, a very adult man shot and killed a teenage black kid. The press and race baiters saw the name George Zimmerman and immediately. . .and stupidly. . .thought 'Hey, white adult male unjustly muderders black teenager. . .and in the south. . .bonus points for us there!' Well such people were wrong about on just about everything on their assumptions-
1) George is not white.
2) Come to find out it was a justifiable shooting.
3) Happened in the south. . .oh wait, they did get that one right. . . getting only one right is still a failing grade though.
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Zimmerman is as just half white and mexican as much as obama is black and white.
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His name is Slave of the Butt.
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Yes but this whole thing was messed up. Both Trayvon and Zimmerman where human and that is all they have in common really. Unless he was killed for speaking out against racism and injustice sorry I don't think s. King was murdered in cold blood, Trayvon in the heat of the moment.
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CRY RACIST!! CRY RACIST!!! IT'LL WIN ALL OF YOUR ARGUMENTS!!!
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Dude he was murdered! How is any of this Trayvon's fault? A filthy pig cop shot him for being black, and we blame the kid?
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He was not shot because he was black. NBC edited the transcripts.
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The kid wasn't a saint no matter how much the press, Oprah, Jackson, and Sharpton tried to make him out to be.
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Well he wasn't a saint but his murderer trail was a travesty and the way that Zimmerman was let off so easy and not even prosecuted right away is nothing short of shocking. That's the issue, not whether Martin was Jesus.
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Martin attempted to pummel Zimmerman to death. Zimmerman was well within his rights to shoot him to defend himself. The way the media's been spinning this story is nothing short of disgraceful.
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Zimmerman followed Martin, after being told by police not to. Martin was a resident of the neighbourhood that Zimmerman was a neighbourhood watch member of.
The real disgrace is how after the murder Zimmerman wasn't charged for hours or even investigated.
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"Zimmerman followed Martin, after being told by police not to. Martin was a resident of the neighbourhood that Zimmerman was a neighbourhood watch member of."
And that justifies assault?
Didn't think so.
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Well if a strange man with a gun followed you for the reason that you had skittles and iced tea on you, would you invite him home for tea or do the human thing and possibly panic?
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*yawn*
You're either playing the fool or it's not an act.
Fact: Martin knocked Zimmerman to the ground and then proceeded to get on him and pummel him and slam his head against the sidewalk. This is not up for discussion, we have the scars, the pictures and the eyewitness testimony that all checks out.
Also fact: There is NOTHING, morally or legally, that Zimmerman could have done that would justify such an action on Martin's part. Even if we accept that fairy tale about Zimmerman racially profiling him (of which there is no evidence) and Martin felt threatened, that would have justified Martin knocking him down and running for help at the very most. What Martin did was attempted murder and Zimmerman was well within his rights to shoot in self defense.
I know it's sexy to want to think you're fighting against racism but this incident just simply is not a case of it. It's a case of a punk who was looking for a fight and tragically got more than he bargained for. Accept it and move on.
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Also How can you find evidance of racial profiling. It's not like anybody is going to admit it.
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Um Zimmerman approached Martin with a gun, what do you expect would happen? Also if his head was slammed into the sidewalk how come he is still alive?
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"Um Zimmerman approached Martin with a gun, what do you expect would happen?"
No, the gun did not come out until Martin was pummeling him, a full 40 seconds into the altercation.
"Also if his head was slammed into the sidewalk how come he is still alive?"
He did suffer a concussion and he would have been dead had he not had the foresight to be carrying a gun for protection and I think that's the real reason why you people have a beef with this case. It was a legit case of a gun being used to protect someone from an attacker but you anti gun nannies can't accept that because it doesn't fit your dogma that all gun owners are serial killers waiting to happen.
"Also How can you find evidance of racial profiling. It's not like anybody is going to admit it."
Zimmerman's background shows he had ZERO problem with black people and in fact had come to their aid on numerous occassions even so far as to call out the police force for turning a blind eye when a policeman's son assaulted a black homeless man.
And the best part is, even if he was the nazi you so desperately want him to be, it wouldn't even matter. Racial profiling is not a valid excuse to punch someone in the head, not morally or legally. Martin broke the law the second he punched Zimmerman and as soon as he got down on him and started pummeling him, it was now attempted murder. The fact that according to witness accounts, Martin said "You're gonna die tonight!", also supports this.
Also, here's another hint for you: People intend on starting up trouble with a black kid for kicks? They don't usually CALL THE POLICE when doing it!
The evidence is clear and has been clear from the start. Martin attacked Zimmerman for no reason and Zimmerman rightfully defended himself. No, Martin didn't deserve to die, but he is responsible for his death.
The media is engaged in race baiting and you my friend bit it hook line and sinker. Next time, use better discretion rather than just believing everything you hear.
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"And the best part is, even if he was the nazi you so desperately want him to be, it wouldn't even matter." You are making assumptions about me, I was just asking, did I say he was racist? I am asking how someone does prove racial profiling?
" The fact that according to witness accounts, Martin said "You're gonna die tonight!", also supports this." Didn't you just say not to believe everything you hear?
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"I am asking how someone does prove racial profiling?"
If the media's behavior is to be believed, you simply assert it and boom, it's true even if it doesn't actually prove anyway.
For future reference, if you don't want to get accused of race baiting, don't bring race into the debate if it's not relevant.
"Didn't you just say not to believe everything you hear?"
"Cause making assumptions is okay when I do it!! DERP!!"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuH_Yu…
Very good video on the subject. Sources are listed below it so don't bother trying to lie to me and claim it's not sourced.
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I was simply asking questions, that's all. One last question, why didn't zimmerman stay in the car when the cops told him to? The whole thing could've been avoided.
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No the was not told to wait in his vechile, he called 911 after exiting his Vehicle. GZ approach TM, who wisely ignored him and turned a corner. At this point GZ said "I can follow him" the operator responded "You don't need to do that sir" to which GZ said "Ok" and stopped. He turned and started back to his vehicle when the operator asked him what the Address of the closest house was, he turned back to check then went to his vehicle and ended his 911 Call. After hanging up his phone and while getting out his keys TM returned and attacked him from behind. Had TM attacked him when first approached I would have supported TM's claim of self-defense as he was being followed by a strange man in the night. However that both disengaged and walked in separate directions calls the initial altercation to a close. That makes TM's return and attack a Separate incident of unprovoked assault which became attempted murder when TM took GZ to the ground and continue the brutal attack. Under the law GZ had every right to defend himself with whatever force he felt necessary.
Its also worth noting, 911 Operators are not Law Enforcement or Police, they have no legal authority under which to give any kind of order. I bleive strongly that GZ was a damaged man overzealously 'protecting' his community, but he took no actions in violation of the Law on that night. TM didn't break any laws either, at least until he decided to seek out GZ after speaking to his friend and nearly reaching his destination. His death was avoidable, it shouldn't have happened, but the actions that lead to his death where his own, not GZs.
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So . . . if a strange man with a gun followed you for blocks what would you do?
zimmerman also claimed that his nose was broken and his head slammed into the concrete seventeen times. Guy is still alive and there was no blood from a broken nose.
Well, what about when Zimmerman said that all niggers get away? That's hard to ignore and is hardly a fairytale.
No I'm not fighting racism, I'm just pointing out that it exists. People better than me are putting far more at risk than me to truly fight racism. I just am part of a generation that is freer and less racist than the last one.
Punk looking for a fight? You mean Zimmerman, who stalked and hunted down an unarmed teenager right?
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*yawn*
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-Ax5…
*inc. excuses why Mr Cares SOOO Much can't be bothered to watch*
"So . . . if a strange man with a gun followed you for blocks what would you do?"
Does not justify assault. I'm sorry if my choice of adjectives is really that confusing to you.
"zimmerman also claimed that his nose was broken and his head slammed into the concrete seventeen times. Guy is still alive and there was no blood from a broken nose."
Had a concussion, black eyes, cracked ribs and yes, broken nose so you can kindly stop making shit up as you go along please.
"No I'm not fighting racism, I'm just pointing out that it exists."
And this simply was not a case of it. Deal with it!
"Well, what about when Zimmerman said that all niggers get away? That's hard to ignore and is hardly a fairytale. "
The media was busted for editing the phone call to make him sound racist. If you look at Zimmerman's background, he was about as anti racist as you can get. Tutored black kids, was business partners with a black guy. Even busted the police chief for turning a blind eye to his son assaulting a black homeless man.
"Punk looking for a fight? You mean Zimmerman, who stalked and hunted down an unarmed teenager right?"
Did I or did I not just tell you to stop lying to me?
The evidence does not support that assertion. Fucking deal with it!
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It's a nice propaganda video.
So will you let the nice man with a gun and a history of violence murder you in cold blood for wearing a hoodie and living in that gated neighbourhood full of white people?
Uh, I'm not making it up. Where was the blood on his shirt? By how much did he outweigh the skinny teenager without a gun I wonder?
Editing the phone call? And busted by who? By FUcks news? Tell me, who busted it, another link please 
Well I will stop telling the truth if you like, it seems to bother you.
The evidence supports my view, thank you very much.
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"Well I will stop telling the truth if you like" I've heard it said that somewhere it is written that "The truth shall set you free" - I hope that's just a saying rather than a universal truth. You and the truth are obviously not close...
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The truth has a liberal bias.
Your move
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No, the media might have a liberal bias, you might, but the truth is just the truth - it has no bias at all.
And, no need to wonder "By how much did he outweigh the skinny teenager without a gun?" Just to help out, I did some minor research for you. During the trial, one could find little else than page after page on the Martin/Zimmerman case, but now...
So I lazily accepted the Wiki.
According to his autopsy, Martin was 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m) tall and weighed 158 pounds (72 kg) at the time of his death.
This surprised me as I had read posts on right-wing (and obviously dishonest) sites claim Martin had 7 inches on Zimmerman.
Zimmerman's height is reportedly 5′ 7″ (1.70 m); and his weight is recorded as being 185 lb (84 kg) on his Seminole County Sheriff's Office Inmate Booking Information dated April 11, 2012, the date of his arrest.
So according to the autopsy and arrest data, Martin had 4 inches on Zimmerman and Zimmerman had 27 pounds on Martin. But the pictures show Zimmerman to be a butterball, the extra weight would have been a liability, not an asset. He would have been slow and quick to tire. Martin would probably have had reach on him, but the fighting was close-quarter, reach would not have been an issue. If Martin did sit on Zimmerman's chest, the extra weight he carried plus Martin's would probably have made breathing difficult, feeding the panic cycle
I find it hard to assign blame, because in each case, I'd probably have done what the person did. As Martin, I'd have jumped Zimmerman for following me. As Zimmerman, I'd have shot Martin the second I felt I was in serious danger. He was too close.
It's not unlikely that there was racial animus on both sides either.
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Zimmerman, who had a history of spouse abuse, of fighting with the police and racist behaviour decided to hunt down and stalk an unarmed teenager who lived in that very gated neighbourhood against the advice of the police and a nine one one operator. What am I missing here?
If Jack the ripper hunted you down and vivisected you, would I be required to support Jack 100% percent because you were taller than him or that he was slightly overweight? Oh and guess what else I can gather from a wiki, Zimmerman had a gun and shot Travyon dead. And Travyon had . . . some skittles and iced tea.
Also, Zimmerman and Martin were in a life and death situation, not a marathon or a sprint.
I find it easy to assign blame. Because reality.
And if you find yourself supporting Zimmerman you strike me as a highly racist and heartless individual. I just hope you're not stupid enough to hunt down an unarmed black teenager and blow his brains out because you're "threatened."
See if I was a serial killer, I couldn't honestly claim that if my victims fought back that I was threatened. Not saying that Zimmerman was a serial killer, only that he's an insane degenerate pice of filth.
Racial animus? martin called Zimmerman a creepy cracker, Zimmerman murdered martin.
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"I find it easy to assign blame. Because reality."
Can you provide data to back up any of what you are saying? Screeching "Reality" doesn't make something real, as I've seen you point out many a time - although you do it often.
Your whole response is little more than a rehash of your personal feelings, based on what you believe. Reality is not a little tweeting bird, no matter what the venerable Spock said.
Zimmerman did go to trial, you know? Murder is usually provable. They didn't even convict him of excessive flatulence...
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Could your kind be more predictable?
Spits out the word propaganda without knowing what the word means.
Zimmerman has the history of violence? Citation needed please.
Trayvon was a well fit, 17 year old who had MMA training. Zimmerman was an overweight man who according to all his friends "couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag." You sir are completely making shit up as you go along here now.
"I got no evidence to support my claims so I'll just spew out Fox News compeltely out of nowhere cause that totally proves...well something!"
Video has sources linked below it.
"The evidence supports my view, thank you very much. "
What evidence? I have nothing but the word of one random nobody on Devart so far.
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Graeystone doesn't seem to care about that.
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No he seems a little lacking in compassion. I wonder what he thinks of zimmerman
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A bit paranoid for some reason.
Oh, and Boot, one juror said of the ruling,(paraphrasing a bit) "Zimmerman did shoot Martin but there wasn't enough proof to find Zimmerman guilty of the charges the DA set forth." Basically the DA couldn't make the case.
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So . . . why didn't the DA have proof, if the man shot an unarmed teenager and ignored a 911 dispatcher who told him not to follow, even though Trayvon was living in that neighbourhood at the time?
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Let's see here. "Hateful"- personal assessment, and invalid unless you actually knew Trayvon. Gang banger? Suspected to have been in a gang, but no criminal record. Swearing, flipping people? You mean normal teenager behaviour?
I agree that the comparison is not valid, but it's pathetic to attack Martin as if he were some hardcore criminal.
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Not to mention assault and battery, as well as attempted murder.
CRY RACIST!!! IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO WIN! Because liberals cannot win if they use something called "logic".
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