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Description "I just envy people who can take such a leap of faith."
"Well, you know, i used to be able to do that."
"You used to?"
"Yeah...used to."
"Why not anymore?"
"Because the bible says...that homosexuality is a sin, and...i...like girls."
". . ."
"So, that just made me question my religion. You know?"
"You just said...that you like girls."
"Yeah."
"So...you're gay?"

"Yeah."




January 23, 2011. I love you, Dad. <3
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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to ??? [2011-01-23 19:25:32 +0000 UTC]

lol I guess that is a plus side xD My mom told my dad not to worry because now he'll always be the most important man in my life, which I guess works xD
And yeah got that right! Tired of not knowing any actual gay people at my school xD;
Well I mean, as long as you have support it'll be okay. I haven't actually come out to my whole school, I just tell people who I think need to know and will answer yes if someone asks if I am ^^'

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-01-23 19:38:33 +0000 UTC]

Haha smooth ;D
I know like...one bisexual girl at my school. I mean, i know gay and bisexual people at my school. But this is the only girl i'm actually FRIENDS with that's bisexual at my school haha and i have bisexual friends at other schools, too(: i don't have any gay friends, boy or girl, though, and i don't have any bisexual guy friends lol
Being out isn't having everyone in the whole world know. It's telling those who matter, and not trying to keep it a secret. So you're out(:

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-01-23 20:28:53 +0000 UTC]

^^'
I have a gay friend in town, but he's home schooled (lucky bastard...) and the only other person I know graduated last year and moved. I know a few "bisexual" girls, but I don't think they really are. More of just the attention thing I'm guessing.
Well then ^^' I was never worried about it though, I figure I'll never be able to have everybody like who I am. That's just humans entitled to their own opinions. And I figure if you can't tell just from looking at me then you probably don't need to know anyway xD

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-01-23 20:57:16 +0000 UTC]

Gah, i hate girls like that, it's so stupid to try and get attention that way ):
Haha are you one of those totally obvious ones?(x

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-01-23 21:31:36 +0000 UTC]

yeah I agree, and gives a bad rep to actual bi's out there. '>>

eh, Idk. Maybe? I have really short hair and wear guys clothing ^^' I don't typically act like the "normal straight girl" but that doesn't really say much ^^' I guess its obvious for where I live though xD what about you?

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-01-23 21:38:37 +0000 UTC]

I know!! My sis doesn't believe people my age can even know if they're gay or bi or whatever cuz of people that pretend like that!

I wouldn't say so. I'm your average "tomboy" lol i wear jeans and T-Shirts, and everyone knows i hate dresses and skirts and the like...my hair is about medium length, too. I guess i'm not obvious though, cuz everyone i told was really surprised lol

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-01-23 22:23:58 +0000 UTC]

Meh, people can do dumb things. Just a question out of curiosity, how old are you? ^^' I mean I found out when I was like 13 so, I'm pretty sure people in our age group can know xD ^^' I guess it can be the opposite though, since some don't realize until a lot later in life.

oh lol okays ^^ only a few people were surprised when I told them, but they seemed fine with it, I haven't actually run into any big "problems" concerning it though which is very good. Then again I'm unable to relate to others like my girlfriend who constantly has family issues about it. But I guess the pros override the cons in my case.

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-01-23 23:05:35 +0000 UTC]

I'm 14, and i realized i was "bisexual" when i was in 7th grade...but i didn't actually come out to myself (in other words, i didn't actually admit to myself that i was "bisexual") until i was 14(: lol and then i recently realized i'm actually kinda sorta...gay(x gosh, labels are sooo confusing!!

It's awesome that you're getting such positive feedback from everyone(: and it sucks about your girlfriend, but that stuff happens to a ton of us...thank God it hasn't to me yet, and i hope it never happens to me ever, or to you

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-01-23 23:28:13 +0000 UTC]

I know what thats like ^^' In 5th grade I tried so hard to "like" one of my guy friends, just to try and show myself that I was "normal" or what I knew to be was anyway. After a few crushes on girls throughout the years I knew I realized I wasn't straight xD As a kid I always knew something was different though. And I hate labels sometimes, there can be so many for just one person ^^'

Yeah I guess it is ^^' But yep...her mom still kinda hates me and purposely grounds her from her laptop just so she wont be able to talk to me (distance relationship...) but I guess it's getting a little better lately. I do hope nothing bad happens to you. Though I don't know you that well, nobody should have to go through any of what has happened to people like us.

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-01-24 18:27:55 +0000 UTC]

In 8th grade i did the same thing, except i didn't even know i was doing it...and it was actually really hilarious, cuz in 8th grade a guy on my bus came out as gay, and everyone was asking him about gaydar, and he said he knew who all the gay people were in the school, and even though i hadn't come out to myself yet, i still got the thought, "plleeeaaassseee don't say me!" loll and then after that i forced myself to like a guy in my UA class

Ahhh, times like that when i'm glad i'm single lol but the worst thing ever is when you like a straight FRIEND...not just a straight GIRL, but a friend )x (which i do now) cuz not only do you love someone who will never love you back, but they ALWAYS act like they love you, and it's suuppeerr hard to get over them! Gosh lol

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-01-26 23:11:32 +0000 UTC]

lol gaydar, original eh? xD aw...yeah it sucks to think like that as a kid. Wish society could be "open" to homosexuality :/ But meh, maybe in the near future who knows? I've told my little sister that i'm dating a girl and she didn't see anything wrong, and she even talked to my girlfriend with our computer mics ^^

I know how that feels, its how it was before her and I starting going out ^^' I mean its not like I saw her everyday at school but seeing her username or just having to make sure I talked to her like a friend not anything more was horrible. Hm...love is a tricky word on its own. I honestly believe in soul-mates so maybe you have someone better waiting for you in the future? I don't know your thoughts on it though ^^'

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-01-27 00:15:36 +0000 UTC]

Gaydar is one of my favorite things in the whole world! I mean, i WOULD say it's my favorite thing about being gay, but...one, i don't even know if i'm 100% gay or not (i just know i like girls lol) and two, i don't have gaydar...at all xD loll How old is your little sister, that's so cool! I mean, i'm afraid to come out to my older brother cuz i have no idea what he thinks of homosexuality at all!

I believe that everyone has some form or another of love for everyone they don't, well...hate! I love all my friends, i love my family, i love my crush...hell, i love random people on the street! But it's ALL different kinds. With my friends, i would never give them a kiss (cuz i'm just not that type of friend, besides on the cheek lol), whereas if my crush told me she liked me, damn, i'd be all over that! haha and with my family, i would do absolutely anything at all for them, whereas for a stranger off the street? There's no fucking way I mean, with random people, i love being around them and i just love seeing people happy. With my friends, i'd do anything and everything for them, and i'll always be there for them, because i simply can't imagine life without them. With my family, it's kind of the same...except i know they'll always be there, no matter what, even through the passage of time, which you can't say about all your friends when you're in high school ;D and with my crush, well...i'd go to the sun and back just to make her smile, but that's just between us *shh* lol
I do believe, though, that there's someone for everyone(: the tricky thing about that is that sometimes they don't always get together, and sometimes they're already old and shrivelled when they find each other. But that person is there - that person is always there(:

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-01-30 15:57:59 +0000 UTC]

Lol I guess I have a "gaydar" xD I mean usually its kind of obvious to tell but with ones like you where you may not be able to tell by what they look like, it does get a little harder. Most people though you can just kinda tell from the way they act ^^' My little sister is 8 :3 Well, what is you and your brother's relationship like? If its pretty good it has a better chance of turning out well, obviously. I have a friend who is pansexual and her brother is okay with it even though he's straight and very religious. It's just because of their close relationship that he is able to see past prejudices he knows and accept his sister :3

Love has so many meanings doesn't it? ^^' I personally think we should have different words for the different meanings, I think that'd make things somewhat easier xD What is this girl like that you seem to have such strong feelings for?

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-01-30 23:52:06 +0000 UTC]

Well with feminine guys and masculine girls, it's pretty obvious, yeah loll i'm talking about the people who can tell by saying like two words to the person (or the person my friend knew, who could tell just by looking at people if they were gay or not - scary stuff!) And i dunno about me, cuz i asked someone if i looked gay or not, and they took one look at my dA picture and was just like, "you totally look gay!" i was just like awesome?
i wish i had a younger sibling... My brother and i don't talk - like, at all. And when we do, he's usually insulting me in one way or another i can't tell if it's because he's extremely awkward, or if it's because he just doesn't feel like talking to me (or dealing with me). I know he loves me, and i know he's awkward (i.e. he might just be extremely awkward with me) sooo... whatevss, wingin' it! And i'm glad it worked out with your bro(:

It does have a ton of meanings, but you know what? I love that(: (no pun intended? lol) i think it's pretty self-explanatory depending on who you're talking to. And everyone knows the difference between saying "i love you" and "i'm in love with you". You know?(:
She's, uhh... Well, where to start? She's the nicest, most selfless person i know. She's extremely talented in art, she's hilarious, and she has so many sides to her. There's the one that's innocent and totally clueless about just about everything - and then sometimes she can be totally diabolical. She can be kind of dirty-minded, which makes me laugh so much. She's got this amazing sense of humor, and she's absolutely gorgeous. She loves to just have fun, and she hates being sad. She's so optimistic, and she can make friends with just about any kind of person - even her exact opposite. She accepts and loves almost every kind of person, and she's always there for you if you're sad(: she's just amazing. I love it when she smiles

...okay, it's official, i'm totally embarrassed xD

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-01-31 03:49:07 +0000 UTC]

lol xD well "looking gay" can mean so many things, and even then a lot of people can be pretty dense on the subject xD and even then there are so many other labels someone could have besides "gay" so it is pretty hard to tell even for the best "gaydars" ^^'
well if things between you and your brother are like that then maybe you should wait a little while. But there is always the hopeful possibility that it'll all work out ^^ and lol i wasn't talking about my brother ^^' me and him barely get along and even when we do its usually for something video game related xD

What I meant was that "love" itself is such an overused word that it can mean so many things to so many different people. You are right though, it does depend on who you're talking to. Its just with all the "teenage romances" (which is stupid because adults aren't exactly any better at it if not worse) have ruined the word. Plus if you are with someone and you say those three words over and over again you tend to have to say more along with it because its said so much it may not mean the same as when you first got together.

So you two are pretty good friends then? And does she have any clue of your feelings for her?

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-01-31 11:45:26 +0000 UTC]

Well, i was asking my lesbian friend, and we were both on the same subject (i know this cuz she said my crush "looks bisexual" lol) sooooo...yeah(x i honestly think you can't pin a person's gayness down with one look, but it's more of a feeling you get when you see/talk to them...of course, with my lack of gaydar, i'm just guessing lol
I was going to wait. and then my sister pulled me aside and was like, "you should tell him soon. he might feel left out, and like he's even MORE not part of the family if everyone else knows and he doesn't." (we're always afraid my brother feels replaced by my sister's boyfriend, who already knows i like girls)

Love is just confusing. Leave it at that(:

We're pretty good friends, yeah. I'm going to see her today and tomorrow, but not wednesday or friday (i'll see her thursday) because we have certain classes together but we don't hang out outside of school at all. She has noooooo idea, and i intend to keep it that way! lol

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-02-03 00:59:56 +0000 UTC]

Lol I already said I don't have one either, just stating what I think xD

Hm...that is true. I hope something does work out with that ^^'

Well your feelings for her do seem pretty strong, and if its meant to be something will happen...but you gotta tell her first if you want that ^^' And she sounds like a great friend to you so there's a higher chance she wont freak out or anything. And who knows? A few days before I "confessed" (which for me meant drawing an emo picture about being heartbroken or whatever) to my girlfriend she tried to go out with some boy she knew. She says she doesn't know why she did it, because she already had a crush on me, but I think she just tried to prove to herself she was at least bisexual. So there's always a chance something could happen in your favor ^^' But whatever happens best of luck to you :3

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-02-03 01:21:20 +0000 UTC]

Same as i. No worries, i hold you to nothing

I'm hoping! He's usually not home, so i'll have to hunt him down whenever i get the guts to tell him!

I think it's hilarious how when i tell people i like her, their reaction is almost always the same. "Well, you never know, she could be hiding that she's actually bisexual or something." I'm not mad or upset by this, i genuinely think it's funny xD And it's definitely sweet, because it means the person i'm telling cares. So thanks, but i honestly don't think she'll ever come to me. Just my luck, right? lol but i'll find the girl for me some day, so i'm not worried. For now i'll just be happy that everytime she looks at me, she smiles(: (and maybe if i'm reeaaalllyyy lucky, she'll break up with her boyfriend and stop talking about him all the time xD lol)

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-02-03 01:36:47 +0000 UTC]

oh man! sorry if I totally just sent the wrong message or something, just trying to be optimistic ^^' but if thats your mindset then right-on! At least your looking towards the future and not dwelling too much on the now, I wish I could do that ^^' but your right, the one for you is out there somewhere :3 and ugh yeah I hate the whole can't stop talking about significant other thing, even though I have a hard time trying to keep myself from doing the same ^^'

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-02-03 02:09:59 +0000 UTC]

It's cool, like i said, it just shows you care, and i get that(: The way i'm thinking, in a sense, is optimistic as well xD lol i usually dwell on the now (and on the past, quite a bit too much than is healthy ) but when it comes to her, i deff make a point of not dwelling on our current situation...it shoves me real low, down deep i'd rather be happy with the great friendship we have than try to push it into something more. Normally that would sound cowardly, but hey, i'm a gay girl crushing on my straight friend - that's just how it is
Yeah! I mean, she's not even my signifigant other, and i STILL can't stop talking about her! lol must be so much harder when you know she's yours

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-02-03 02:24:05 +0000 UTC]

heh ^^' oh believe me, I dwell on the past WAY too much xD; But at least you're thinking of this logically. But yeah, I do know how that is. I've had crushes on many girls around my school, some I see everyday and some I regret ever even being their friend, but things changed and I lost feelings for them and some of us still stayed friends ^^ so maybe that'll happen ya know? Sometimes friends can be better than lovers, just because you still have that barrier between you. I'm glad your so mature about what you're dealing with though, don't see that often in most young people ^^'
Lol it is really hard ^^' Even more difficult because only a few of my friends even know about her (whole distance thing and what not) and even then nobody wants to hear some chick ramble about her girlfriend ^^' I've gotten a little better at it though, I used to be so bad at keeping such things to myself xD Anyways...^^'

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-02-03 03:54:12 +0000 UTC]

I think it's hilarious how some things are so easy for me to put into perspective that other people can't quite do, while other things that everyone else can see clearly just completely boggle my mind xD I don't plan on telling her about my crush, ever. And if i do one day, well, i'll have to be long over her. It'll be something i can laugh about, and maybe i'll have a girlfriend or something at the time so i can make her feel less paranoid about it(: I get told i'm mature for my age really often. I'm 14, is it really that strange? (can't wait to say i'm 15!! )
Actually, i'd LOVE to hear some chick ramble about her girlfriend. Don't you ever repeat this to anyone, but it's so much more fun to listen to that than listening to all my coupled friends talking about their boyfriends xD (even my best friend, who i DON'T have a crush on, is allwwaayyysss talking about her boyfriend lol) I just love hearing about a girl's girlfriend, because i think it's so freaking adorable(: with a girl talking about her boyfriend, something about the way she just gushes all about him is...well, it's cute, but it's also a little boring for me. Being gay has it's disadvantages, i guess

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-02-05 17:30:25 +0000 UTC]

That's a good plan ^^ It's very good that you've already got that thought out and such instead of what the majority of young teens would do. And yes from what you've said in this conversation you sound very mature -feels old- ^^' especially compared to society's stereotypical 14/15 year old girl -.-' anyway ^^'

heh ^^' I don't really know a lot of people who are a lesbian couple so I wouldn't know ^^' In fact I don't think any of my friends are dating anyone, if so they don't talk about it. From what I've heard though, a girl talking about a guy seems the most annoying. Just because its pretty much all you hear about. Guys talking about a guy is cute though, as girl and girl. I guess its just because you hardly ever hear from homosexual individuals in school settings. I've never been one to witness it, but I do think a guy telling you about a girl he's in love with and you're both like friends or whatever...I think that would be pretty sweet too, but eh I'm rambling ^^' haha I do know what you mean though ^^'

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-02-05 22:30:53 +0000 UTC]

I feel like a ton of people are selfish. I'm glad i've proven that i don't fall under that category(: though i'll admit, when i type, things from my mind flow easily onto a page. If i ever actually tried to talk to someone about these kinds of things, i wouldn't be able to go 2 seconds without cracking some kind of joke xD I love serious conversations - i just can't hold one And how old are you, then, to be feeling old? xD

It's kay, i have no gay friends whatsoever, guy or girl And it's TOTALLY all you hear about! My best friend, the one who's always gushing about her boyfriend that i mentioned? She goes to boarding school with him. So i basically don't see her too often, and when she DOES come back, he's all she'll talk about xD Though i'll admit, it does kinda make my day to see her so happy, and he's really cool(: i skype him when she comes back, and sometimes we'll text (usually only if she's with me). I have two bisexual friends (both girls) though at the moment that both have boyfriends, so that's lame lol i've gone through that one (the guy talking about the girl) except it wasn't super adorable. I mean, at first it was, yeah. He took me to homecoming, see, and i said yes even though i totally didn't want to go, because we were friends and stuff (though i don't regret it. i had a lot of fun!). By the end of the night, i weasled his crush out of him ;D Thing is, his crush is on the basketball team with me. I got her side of the story, and it's not all that sweet of him...O.o lol but i've also experienced long-distance, with my friend who lives in Washington. He totally loved this girl in his class, and it was soooo cute when he would start rambling about her! lol

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-02-07 23:12:16 +0000 UTC]

lol yeah a lot of them are, but we're humans. It's just a part of our nature I guess. I'm glad you're not in that category as well, though if you were I probably wouldn't be talking to you ^^' amg I know how you feel! I could never sit down and talk to someone like this outside of the internet...my attention span wouldn't allow it xD Lol I am 16 (still can't believe it actually xD)

I know a few who are, but the ones I'm friends with don't live in the same town...>> (homeschooled, in college, different states, etc.) though I do think that a few kids at my high school are gay/lesbian, they just wont say so because its a small town and such. Which is kinda sad in a way, but eh its life ^^' Lol I have a pansexual friend with a boyfriend, I know how you feel xD but they seem happy together, so I'm not complaining ^^ And aw ^^' I guess it depends on the situation and people in it if its classified as "cute" in my mind xD

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-02-08 01:22:20 +0000 UTC]

16 and old? Psshhh, you're lame loll i would start feeling old at about 23 or 24 lol(x

I KNOW a few gay guys, but i'm not actually FRIENDS with them lol but yeah, they're there too bad they won't come out It always depends on the situation lol and who's perspective it's coming from, of course

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xNewAdventuresAwaitx In reply to Jez123 [2011-02-08 01:32:10 +0000 UTC]

haha xD my body feels older and my mind feels younger, but my age is 16 xD and lol it isn't that old, until you realize its been more than 20 years since the start of the decade you were born in xD ^^' and 23? that's when you start to have fun being an adult! xD

the two gay guys I know dont live in my town, and one I barely even talk to because he's a college boy ^^' and yeah too bad, but maybe once they get into the real world and find more people like them they'll reconsider staying in the closet ^^'

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Jez123 In reply to xNewAdventuresAwaitx [2011-02-08 01:41:08 +0000 UTC]

My mind and body feel older than 14 lol
Once i get to 30, i'm done xD loll i mean 24-ish is when i'll start to FEEL old, not like middle-aged woman old but adult old(: loll

Hopefully! I think being out and proud is one of the most important things for anyone who isn't straight(:

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Equality-Forever In reply to ??? [2011-01-23 18:54:25 +0000 UTC]

Go Dad! My Dad was raised to believe that was not cool at all, at least being Gay. Not so sure on being Lesbian, though. His work buddies think it's cool (guys, pssh) so I don't doubt he would, too... but.. he wants grandkids.

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Jez123 In reply to Equality-Forever [2011-01-23 18:56:25 +0000 UTC]

My dad made a pouty face when he realized i wouldn't have kids lol but his main concern was how this would impact the rest of my life he kept asking me what i would do if people were to harrass me for being gay. I kept telling him not to worry, because verbal abuse over being gay has no hold on me. They're just sad people(:

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Equality-Forever In reply to Jez123 [2011-01-23 19:03:11 +0000 UTC]

That's so cool. You reminded me of a little conversation I had with my padre a while back. Posted it.

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Jez123 In reply to Equality-Forever [2011-01-23 19:06:10 +0000 UTC]

I read it. Sometimes people get all freaked out over things their parents say, but they forget that their parents don't know why they think the way they do: because they're not straight.
I'm sure if he had known, he would've understood a little better. But you weren't ready to tell him, and that's absolutely fine(: it definitly wasn't your last chance, so never regret not telling him. And above all else, stay strong and believe in who you are! Because from where i'm standing, you're pretty awesome

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Equality-Forever In reply to Jez123 [2011-01-23 19:08:51 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much for the advice. Really, it helps.

And thank you! You are pretty awesome, too.

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Jez123 In reply to Equality-Forever [2011-01-23 19:11:40 +0000 UTC]

No problem, i'm sure you'll be fine when it comes down to it. And if you ever need to talk to someone, just remember i'm always here(: i love it when other people are happy, so never hesitate!

And thanks haha

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Equality-Forever In reply to Jez123 [2011-01-23 19:30:44 +0000 UTC]

Thank you as well. ^^

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Jez123 In reply to Equality-Forever [2011-01-23 19:38:49 +0000 UTC]

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