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Pretty much everyone who thinks that cannabis should stay illegal doesn't know anything ABOUT cannabis, lol.
The CLEAR party website has a lot of information on the subject, and this is a decent read on some of the benefits of legalising marijuana.
Edit: Here is a REALLY good read and you should definitely check it out whether you disagree, agree or are neutral!
For those who are TL;DR
> Marijuana has a huge amount of medical benefits.
> Hemp is valuable and cannot even be smoked.
> Pot is a whole lot safer than alcohol and tobacco, which CAN kill you. It's safer than CAFFEINE.
> Prohibition has failed to stop its use anyway and creates more dangers than having it legalised would.
> Being legal, it can be taxed and have an age limit (like alcohol and cigarettes), preventing underage exposure.
> Legalisation of marijuana = empty prisons of unnecessary prisoners who have done nothing wrong.
> In places where pot is legalised or decriminalised, there is a significant (read: large) drop in crime rates.
> Think of when alcohol was illegal (and then legalised)
Did I miss anything?

note:
i understand and accept if you disagree but if you wish to make a debate please do so maturely and do your research thank you
no "well my friend's friend's uncle's dog's best friend died from weed" oh my god

i like to have polite conversations. no need to be rude, no matter your opinion.
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seadoq In reply to ??? [2014-02-26 01:44:59 +0000 UTC]

I couldn't agree more.


I feel like it should be legalized, but not just for casual smoking. It can be used for medical reasons and to make paper ( so that we won't have to continue destroying nature and trees just for paper ).


It can kill brain cells and mess you up in school and being successful in life. 

I hate the drug and I'm tired of people talking about it, and I hate how it all of the sudden has a bunch of merchandise with cannabis leaves on it. It's gross.

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disasteroIogy In reply to seadoq [2015-06-19 04:21:33 +0000 UTC]

That's why I support using it at an older age, when you're out of school and not too old that you can't have fun. Even then, it should be used in moderation, like everything else in our world. Eh, I respect your opinion, though. Cheers!

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Eternities22 In reply to seadoq [2014-02-26 02:00:24 +0000 UTC]


My thoughts exactly. I consider drug culture lowbrow and preachy. Smoke this, smoke that. Ugggh.


Thanks for understanding.

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seadoq In reply to Eternities22 [2014-02-26 02:12:56 +0000 UTC]

exactly! like, I'm sure there's better things in life than weed.

not only that, but smoking it will give you a very unattractive stench. ( and as in "unattractive," I mean just awful, and will make people not want to hang around you for too long because you smell. )


no problem! many people probably will not agree with me, but I honestly don't care.

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kaijupuppy In reply to ??? [2014-01-08 19:24:36 +0000 UTC]

i'm... not actually sure where i glorified it?
admittedly i didn't mention the side-effects, but that's really because it's kinda obvious there's some side effects - the fact is that none of the side effects are actually dangerous.
i also didn't criticise alcohol (nor tobacco). i am both a drinker and a smoker - but i do acknowledge that drinking and smoking can kill you and, in large enough quantities with prolonged use, pretty much definitely will. which... weed isn't really going to do. it's not about some superiority thing, it's just... the truth?

i do kind of agree that addiction is addiction and it should not be glorified to be addicted - however, enjoying weed should not be demonised as it is.
my main point, though, is less about "lol legalise weed so we can smoke it aaaall the time", but more about things like medical benefits, less kids being arrested for no legitimate reason, etc, etc.

but also, imagery of weed isn't really... negative? i hate to bring up the old trope, but if you don't like it, then you shouldn't look at it.
i think people should be allowed to enjoy stoner art and photos and other things. i myself have a bandana with pot leaves on it, i think it's cute, it's not glorifying the drug or anything. at first glance, it just looks like maple leaves or something.
admittedly some people take it a little too far, but you probably won't see that sort of culture outside of the internet and certain social circles. it's easily avoidable.

and friend, you are far from the only person who doesn't smoke weed.

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420JeffieShawna In reply to ??? [2013-12-12 08:32:01 +0000 UTC]

can everyone like .. stop arguing and smoke a joint?

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Itoruna-The-Platypus In reply to ??? [2013-05-29 19:16:37 +0000 UTC]

I agree but... Why does weed need an age limit?

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kaijupuppy In reply to Itoruna-The-Platypus [2013-05-30 02:40:53 +0000 UTC]

there's a possibility it can affect brains that aren't fully developed
on top of that there's an age limit on buying glue

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Itoruna-The-Platypus In reply to kaijupuppy [2013-05-30 19:02:18 +0000 UTC]

Well, minors can have caffiene, why not weed? (I don't mean small kids, I mean teens.) Maybe weed can be served in "Weed Lounges" and Under 21 Teen Clubs where teens 13+ can smoke weed under supervision.

What do you think the penalty for underage weed smoking should be? School suspension, or just getting paddled by the cops?

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SpyroTailz In reply to Itoruna-The-Platypus [2016-08-04 20:25:06 +0000 UTC]

Caffeine is not as intoxicating and mind altering as cannabis. Smoking cannabis is not good for undeveloped brains at all, theres no arguing about that.

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Itoruna-The-Platypus In reply to SpyroTailz [2016-09-09 18:33:22 +0000 UTC]

Take that up with op.

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kaijupuppy In reply to Itoruna-The-Platypus [2013-05-30 20:20:54 +0000 UTC]

tbh, i think the government has fucked up priorities... but either way, the whole legalisation thing is rocky ground in the first place, there's no chance in hell it'd have the same casual status as caffeine.
underage exposure IS one of those "major concerns" for people and whether or not their concern is warranted is irrelevant because if it becomes legal, it'll be treated like alcohol.
although being drunk and being high are very different, they are more similar than the effects of consuming caffeine. in large quantities, caffeine will make your brain go funny, but it takes a LOT to do that. you can drive after a cup of coffee, you can't (or shouldn't) drive after a joint.
i'd say 15 or 16 minimum but we're looking at an 18-21 age limit legally. as i said, marijuana CAN affect the memory in those whose brains aren't fully developed, which includes 13 year olds. certain medications and sleeping pills have an age limit of 16+ and that would be the lowest age limit i would put on cannabis if i had the power to do so, even under adult supervision.
i know caffeine is actually worse than pot, but honestly, pot isn't going to jump from illegal to suddenly being ok for 13 year olds to smoke it. i'm not completely AGAINST the concept of there being no age limit, although i'd really hate to see 13 year olds smoking joints, i just think that logically, it ain't gonna happen is all.

in my opinion, it depends on the situation. how much they have and what they do. tbh for a small amount, i'd expect the same reaction you get here by the police for smoking pot in general irrelevant of age - a stern warning and they take your stash off your hands.

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Itoruna-The-Platypus In reply to kaijupuppy [2013-05-30 21:06:44 +0000 UTC]

Oh. Seems fair. I guess that makes sense. Sorry for bothering you, I just don't want to feel left out of the legalization of pot. But who knows? These shitty months left of being a doormat for the rest of society might be over in time weed becomes legal.

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kaijupuppy In reply to Itoruna-The-Platypus [2013-05-30 21:29:19 +0000 UTC]

oh no you're not bothering me at all!! i really like debating things, i'm sorry if i sounded grumpy or anything.
honestly i think for the most part, people ARE too wary with things like this and "underage" folks, but it's just difficult enough to get it legalised in the first place WITH age restrictions is all. i suppose it's just a one step at a time deal.
i know being under 18 (or under 21) can suck a whole lot with this stuff, and i don't really think people under 18/21 shouldn't be allowed to even touch weed... i just know that there's a slight risk for those under the age of about 15 and pot is demonized enough already and the law just ain't gonna be alright with that, haha.

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ObligatorilyOptional In reply to ??? [2013-05-25 03:49:27 +0000 UTC]

whoa dude, massive respect for.. well... everything! lol, it's really nice to see someone actually take the time to explain why pot's not so bad, a lot of the people where I live will say all kinds of crazy bullshit if it'll push you closer to buying. I don't toke that often (mainly because money issues), but many of my friends do and I'm pro weed for pretty much all the reasons you've listed. Idk about over there, but over here we're required to take classes on health and drug use and the amount of anti-marijuana propaganda is ridiculous, as well as some of the laws (Less than an ounce is 1 year in jail and/or 1,000$ fine, up to 10 years for anything over). At the same time though, it's actually legal in some states. I hear Canada is pretty much legal. What are the laws like where you live?

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kaijupuppy In reply to ObligatorilyOptional [2013-05-25 11:43:38 +0000 UTC]

haha thanks!!
here it's a class B drug. pretty much everything anti-drug will be anti-cannabis as well and seemingly put it on the same level as heroin and crack, ugh. there's a damn poster in the local youth centre that has "information on drugs" and it's all just "CANNABIS IS TERRIBLE IT WILL ROT UR KIDNEYS also crack and heroin are bad too kids"
possession has a maximum of 5 years - but really small amounts will be issued with a warning (and no fine!) that apparently doesn't even show up on CRB checks, it'll just be on record for the police. and they'll dispose of your stash obviously. and that's only like the first time, if you're caught again you'll be fined :I
having enough for an "intent to deal", or being caught dealing can get you up to 14 years and usually comes with an unlimited fine, so it's basically insane and unfair. i know fucking rapists will get less than that time in some countries.

medically, actual marijuana is not used at all but we have some synthetic stuff called sativex for people with MS. and also wikipedia says "EU-residents prescribed medical products containing cannabis are permitted to be in possession of cannabis whilst freely travelling throughout the United Kingdom. However, this does not apply to UK-resident patients, who may not travel to the UK in possession of medicinal cannabis even if they managed to acquire a prescription in a country where it is legal.[8]"

let's just move to canada.

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D-eer [2013-05-21 08:01:14 +0000 UTC]


Well I support that thought!
I live in the Netherlands as you might know, and smoking weed is sort of legal over here, and honestly, a lot of people do it, also for medicinal reasons.
I do know for sure that it's safer than alcohol, of course it always depends on what kind of person you are and how much you've had, but you're doing way more stupid and dangerous things when you've had too much alcohol than weed.
I smoke almost every day actually, and I'm one of those who can only sit back and relax, and eat a LOT when I'm stoned haha.
But my boyfriend on the other hand, who really smokes a lot (I do not agree with his smoking habit, in my opinion he smokes too much and spends way too much money on it) has ADHD which manifests itself in aggression, really benefits from weed. He gets a lot calmer, can think more straight, and doesn't loose his temper so fast. You can hardly even notice he is stoned, but that also depends on the enviroment. At home, we're relaxed and giggling, when we're going somewhere (I'm always sober if we go somewhere because I just get as slow minded as I can be if I smoke lol) he is just a normal reasonable guy.
The only thing that bothers me is that he smokes so much, I think at least 2 joints a day, unless he's at family or something. It is addicting to him in a way, not that he can't do without it, but that he likes himself, his temper, the way he thinks more when he smokes. In some way I understand him, but it would be much better to archieve that without smoking that much. It just costs so much, and I don't like the afffects that it has on the longs, both weed and tabaco.

Of course weed has it downsides, but if you compare it to alcohol, it should be legalized.

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kaijupuppy In reply to D-eer [2013-05-21 15:15:19 +0000 UTC]

Ahhh yes thank you!!
Yeah the Netherlands was one of the places I thought of for it being semi-legal and not having anything awful happen like everyone seems convinced is going to if marijuana is legalised.
It is SO much more safer than alcohol, and has so many benefits - like you said, calming people down is a great one. I know this one dude who has shakes and stuff and the second he smokes half a joint he's perfect. But they give him prescribed meds for his shakes that just make him tired and sick feeling.
That's on top of its more well-known use as a painkiller. Which is also awesome. It's a plant, and it does such amazing things! And in most countries we're saying "Ew, no, it's evil. But alcohol, that's fine".

And yeah, I think a lot of people do get an emotional/mental dependency on marijuana. It's unfortunate but I guess it's sort of what happens with anything? Not that you want it to at all. And it is stupidly expensive, ick. But in a way if it were legal, it'd be easier for some people to seek help - obviously not everyone is going to, but they're not gonna be scared off.
But in my personal experience, when one has high stress and anxiety like I do, someone (who isn't me) finds that smoking pot works absolute wonders for that in finally getting them to relax.

Pot does have negative effects, as with everything, but they're so low in comparison to things that already ARE legal here ie. alcohol, and prescription medications that are given for pain and anxiety and etc - my mother has pain meds that have awful side effects, SEVERE withdrawal symptoms and are stupidly addictive.
It's like basically... it will give lung damage as with anything you smoke, and when you're new at it, you get whitey. You might puke. It doesn't give you brain damage, it doesn't rot your kidneys away to nothing... there are alternative ways to consume it that doesn't involve smoking it too, if one is so scared of lung damage!

But as far as I've researched, the lung damage is so much less than nicotine (especially since that contains like a million carcinogens) and the overall damage is less than alcohol...
The main argument I've noticed is this "mental effect" that doesn't really exist - people are already mentally unstable, happen to smoke pot, pot is blamed??

But the pros just outweigh the cons so much IMO. I just don't see how people can see it as so evil - but at the very least its medical usage shouldn't even be a debate!
Thank you for your comment aaah sorry for my huge ramble.

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Arrin-Wolf In reply to ??? [2013-05-20 18:59:39 +0000 UTC]

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kaijupuppy In reply to Arrin-Wolf [2013-05-20 19:32:03 +0000 UTC]

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Kelsey-Kat In reply to ??? [2013-05-20 17:25:19 +0000 UTC]

Love this stamp. You should make one for MDMA, which is even safer than pot :]

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kaijupuppy In reply to Kelsey-Kat [2013-05-20 19:24:37 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't say it was safer at all. But thank you!

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Kelsey-Kat In reply to kaijupuppy [2013-05-20 20:53:02 +0000 UTC]

Well scientists do :] [link]

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kaijupuppy In reply to Kelsey-Kat [2013-05-20 21:29:21 +0000 UTC]

An interesting read! Personally I'd want to see a little more research done into it before I believed it was safer than marijuana, but I do know/accept that MDMA, at least when not contaminated, isn't nearly as dangerous as people seem to believe.

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Kelsey-Kat In reply to kaijupuppy [2013-05-20 22:30:25 +0000 UTC]

Its also very very effective in treating mental disorders, especially PTSD.

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Arrin-Wolf In reply to Kelsey-Kat [2013-05-20 19:01:27 +0000 UTC]

i agree there should be one for MDMA but it's definitely not safer than weed lol

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Kelsey-Kat In reply to Arrin-Wolf [2013-05-20 20:53:21 +0000 UTC]

Well scientists and all current research say it is :] [link]

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Arrin-Wolf In reply to Kelsey-Kat [2013-05-20 22:13:15 +0000 UTC]

number of people who have died from smoking weed: 0
number of people who have died from taking ecstasy: not 0

regardless, they're both great, haha

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Kelsey-Kat In reply to Arrin-Wolf [2013-05-20 22:29:58 +0000 UTC]

That doesn't define their safety. Regardless, I already provided my evidence.

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claytondanvers In reply to ??? [2013-05-20 16:39:06 +0000 UTC]

there was some research on that it can fuck w your memory IF you smoke it before your brain is fully developed (so say 15 yrs old) but no long term effects when you're an adult. that was experimenting on mice tho so there might be more research out now on people. uvu
it should just be legalised and taxed like it is with alcohol and cigarettes; things which actually CAN kill you if you abuse them!
nice stamp bb

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kaijupuppy In reply to claytondanvers [2013-05-20 16:42:29 +0000 UTC]

yeah that was a point i meant to mention. being taxed and an age limit put on it would also help underage exposure to it!! something that isn't prevented when it's illegal and dealers will just sell to anyone for a quick buck.
/casually adds to description

and thank u xoxoxo

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Sayba In reply to ??? [2013-05-20 16:24:13 +0000 UTC]

I don't know, I'm sure it's illegal for a reason. I've tried it myself and hated it, it made me feel too dizzy and sick. I heard it can trigger schizophrenia and everyone I know that smokes it is slowly turning into a drip. I mean this guy that lived two doors down from me used to be a slightly sexy lad, now he's a sleepy looking retard with a voice that's too deep. Honestly I would be against it, people abuse alcohol enough as it is, we don't need anything else messing with peoples heads.

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kaijupuppy In reply to Sayba [2013-05-20 16:33:55 +0000 UTC]

tbh you really can't blame a substance for what people do - it is their own damn fault what they do, whether they're drunk/stoned or not. people who drive drunk are still responsible for that action. and at the very least, people are less likely to do dipshit things and kill themselves/someone else high.
but its non-addictive, and a lot of the bad stuff said about it is BS with no actual evidence or research. schizophrenia doesn't come out of nowhere and smoking weed won't magically give you a mental disorder. people are veeery quick to blame pot for things that have 0 connection to what actually happens.
and altho i belief the benefits from it being legalised completely are pretty strong, i at least would like to see medicinal usage and hemp crops being legal, which are really important things.
but hey, opinions differ!

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Sayba In reply to kaijupuppy [2013-05-20 17:20:58 +0000 UTC]

Yes, stupid people like them are also a drain on the NHS, the amount of ambulances called out for stupid drunken retards is ridiculous. So if weeds was legalized imagine how many more ambulances will be called out for people who have smoked too much. If you smoke too much too quickly it can make you very sick indeed. There are too many idiot teenagers in this world for something like that to be legalized. My friends uncle smokes it and he's a state, looks like a bald fat Frank Gallagher. Maybe making it legal for the other usages are Ok, but not for smoking no way.

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kaijupuppy In reply to Sayba [2013-05-20 18:25:50 +0000 UTC]

I disagree that the amount of emergencies would double. For one, if marijuana were legalised, the people using it irresponsibly would be the same people who drink alcohol irresponsibly. And there WILL be irresponsible people, but in a way, it is BETTER to be irresponsible with weed than with alcohol. I mean, it's never GOOD to be irresponsible, but marijuana will cause you a lot less harm in the long run.
You get whitey if you smoke too fast, and the worst I've ever heard is puking. Obviously that's no fun, but it's a lot less than the negative effects of alcohol.
On top of this, if marijuana were legalised, there would be an age limit - I know this doesn't already prevent underage people from drinking and smoking cigarettes, but it wouldn't be so readily available. Dealers don't give a shit about the age of their customers, so it's actually easier for people underage to get it.
And yeah, people will be idiots with everything. People abuse alcohol, tobacco, sleeping pills, plant food... that's not going to change any time soon, but cannabis being legal won't suddenly make the whole problem worse...
Damn I'm sort of struggling to phrase what I want to say properly.
And obviously, if you're lazy and do nothing but smoke pot and live off McD's it's gonna affect your appearance... but unlike alcohol it doesn't directly affect your appearance. Or even your personality.
It's also very anti-violence tbh - alcohol can make people get angry. Pot tends to calm you down a whole lot.

But yeah, if anything, medical marijuana being legal shouldn't even be a debate - it just should be a thing.
Again, it's your opinion and I'm not gonna force you to change it!! But I like having debates even if I suck at explaining what I mean.

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Sayba In reply to kaijupuppy [2013-05-20 19:01:16 +0000 UTC]

I didn't say double but they would definitely increase, it's just not worth having the NHS waste time on more idiots. I also don't think people who drink irresponsibly would also be the ones abusing weed, not everyone that likes weed will also like alcohol. For instance I never drank when I tried it myself. Anything that will cause anyone harm sooner or later shouldn't be allowed. I'm not even sure it's medical benefits have been proven, but then I've never done the research. Surely there are other medications that are safer and offer the same benefits, if not we would have done something about it already.
A whitey is basically the same as being too drunk, dizziness, vomiting and nausea but with weed you also get clammy skin and a white face because of the decrease in blood pressure. This happened to my brother.
Age limits on anything does nothing, you just get someone old enough to go into the shop for you to buy it. It's how I got drunk and all my other friends got drunk. It's just not worth adding something else to the list people can abuse without breaking the law. Yeah people abuse things already but I think the cons outweigh the pros with weed. From a quick google according to About.com it can give you anxiety issues as well, no one needs that.

It could all depend on how pure it is though, I'm no expert.

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kaijupuppy In reply to Sayba [2013-05-20 20:09:41 +0000 UTC]

Also meant to add:
As far as I've read and experienced and etc etc, whitey is the result of consuming nicotine smoke, rather than inhaling it. Which irritates the stomach lining, causing nausea and in extreme cases, vomiting.
This doesn't happen to those who smoke just tobacco because they tend to just inhale/exhale fast, whereas with weed you have to hold it in, so when you smoke mixed tobacco/weed and hold it in, sometimes you end up swallowing before you exhale, and doing this a lot causes whitey.
To be fair this probably could happen with just pure too but it makes you feel a lot less choke-y than tobacco at the very least so you don't feel the need to swallow down a cough.

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kaijupuppy In reply to Sayba [2013-05-20 19:31:52 +0000 UTC]

I know that a lot of time is wasted on idiots but again the things that happen to drunk people are less likely to happen to high people.
Also whitey is more or less connected to tobacco, not marijuana, and the huge number of people who mix weed/tobacco, which is pretty bad for you but I think more than 75% of this country's weed users do it, mostly because of misinformation - "you can't smoke weed without tobacco because it won't burn".
While whitey really DOES suck, it's not something you'd be rushed into hospital for. Unlike getting drunk, getting woozy and falling down and cracking your head on something. Or passing out drunk and choking on your own vomit. Or liver failure.
Smoking pure marijuana just has very few adverse affects. It doesn't get you drunk and stupid. And it's not for everyone, but the people it's not for just don't do it... lol.

I know there is not ENOUGH research done into marijuana right now, but there still are health benefits and barely any, if any at all, negative long-term side effects. Basically the only thing that's been noted is that it can negatively effect brain functions of those who use it long term before their brain is fully developed ie. underage.
My mother has to take a load of painkillers to treat her disability and fibromyalgia, and they have such negative side effects and are so badly addictive, whereas medical marijuana just... isn't.

A lot of negative effects of weed are due to mixing and spiking as well, which could be prevented if there was more information - but there isn't because of how demonised it is, so people have to live with the bad information that is passed on between people.

And I know age limits don't completely stop people, but there are more people who say "lol fuck no" to getting someone underage alcohol/cigs because of how much trouble they can get in, and it's still harder for younger people to get ahold of it. It doesn't stop them at all which I know, but it's at least a bigger hurdle and puts off more people than if it wasn't age limited.

Tbh I personally think the pros outweigh the few cons that aren't made up BS to terrify everyone, but again, that's just me.
Sorry for jumping about a bit/not making a whole lotta sense, oops.

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Sayba In reply to kaijupuppy [2013-05-20 21:11:32 +0000 UTC]

Yeah but saying it's less likely to happen doesn't mean that it won't, and we really can't afford to any more needless call outs.
Hmm, from what I read it seems to have similar effects as alcohol anyway, slower reaction times, short term memory loss, it increases your heart rate and lowers blood pressure, don't understand! It seems to be more dangerous when eaten in large doses, like in hash brownies.

I know it's considered good for pain but.. So is all the many pain meds we already have out. It looks like studies into it helping with glaucoma went nowhere... From looking at a website with pros and cons I'm still against it. Seems if it was legalized it would do more bad then good. I know some people -can- get addicted to weed, it all depends on the person and their personality of course, people can become addicted to anything but weed can be addictive, not just because it can be mixed with tobacco.

3-4 Cannabis cigarettes a day are associated with the same evidence of acute and chronic bronchitis and the same degree of damage to the bronchial mucosa as 20 or more tobacco cigarettes a day.
Cannabis smoking is likely to weaken the immune system. Infections of the lung are due to a combination of smoking-related damage to the cells lining the bronchial passage and impairment of the principal immune cells in the small air sacs caused by cannabis." -British Lung Foundation-

I wouldn't say an age limit is a bigger hurdle then breaking the law altogether. You get into more trouble dealing then buying something for someone underage. Plus it's probably going to be the kids who have reached that age who can now buy it that will over do it.

I did watch a drug documentary about it and a drug smuggler did whitey due to cannabis. Not sure if cannabis/weed/marijuana are all the same.

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kaijupuppy In reply to Sayba [2013-05-20 21:48:00 +0000 UTC]

Well, no, I suppose not, but in areas where marijuana is legal, nothing that awful has happened. It's pretty much shown already that making it legal doesn't mean there are more car accidents by people under influence, or more of other under-the-influence problems happening. In fact there's barely any change besides certain drug-related crimes going down.
It's not really the same as alcohol at all - there a few parts that crossover, of course, like the slowed down reaction times, but the effects just aren't anywhere near as bad.
Also I've never read anything like that? So I can't really comment. I assume it's because you can eat more brownies than you would be willing to smoke something so you might end up feeling really sick. But you still can't overdose on pot.

Yeah but exactly my point is that the pain meds we have NOW are highly addictive, have a lot of negative side effects and SEVERE withdrawal. I also know it can treat pain better than a lot of pain meds that have worse side effects than it.
Also it's not so much actual, physical addiction than emotional dependency, which is bad, sure, but people get emotionally dependent on shopping and listening to music, so...
It's still not addictive the same way tobacco, alcohol, caffeine, heroin etc are haha.
But tbh I'm still not expecting to change your opinion.

Tbh, a lot of people wouldn't smoke that many in a day - but again, people are irresponsible with tobacco and smoke a gajillion of those a day, so...
A lot of the negative effects aren't properly researched to give that sort of information... but I do admit, absolutely any smoke will cause lung damage eventually, but the negative effects of nicotine are so much worse.

Oh no, I wasn't saying at all that it was a bigger hurdle than totally breaking the law. But those who deal will get into shit regardless of the age of their customers - older people who provide younger people with alcohol or cigs are less likely to want to get into shit because they aren't dealers.
It's not a bigger hurdle than it being outright illegal tho, wasn't saying that haha I'm just so bad at phrasing things.

Cannabis/weed/marijuana are all the same thing but there are 2 main strains of marijuana, indica and sativa, which have kind of opposite effects.
But as I said - I was sure it'd happen with any smoke because consuming any kind of smoke would irritate the stomach lining anyway. And it sucks, but tbh, you can get negative effects from paracetamol... plus whitey only happens to those who don't really pace themselves properly - same as those who don't pace themselves drinking. But whitey still isn't serious enough to call an ambulance or anything, it'd be like going to hospital for trapped wind haha.

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SpyroTailz In reply to kaijupuppy [2016-09-13 14:48:32 +0000 UTC]

Nicotine by itself is basically as safe as pot, whats your point? You are talking about all the other chemicals in cigarettes. Nicotine is virtually harmless mild stimulant, although hella addictive.

What kind of meds does your mother take? If its opiates or strong stuff like that then her pain is so bad weed wouldnt do jack shit. While marijuana can provide some pain relief (in some cases) it is in totally different ballpark with any opioid/opiate there is when talking about relieving pain. Sure it is less addictive and has less negative side effects, but its like trying to treat Rick Ross's hunger by giving him a fiver and telling him to get McDonalds dollar menu...
People are really naive when it comes to medical marijuana, they think it can replace literally every medicine there is.

Also any smoke whether it comes from burning cannabis, wood, leaves from the tree, or tobacco, will contain carcinogens. Thats basic chemistry. Granted tobacco contains way more harmful chemicals than cannabis but I dont think its impossible to get lung cancer from smoking (a shit ton) of weed since carcinogens tend to cause cancer. No smoke belongs in human lungs.

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kaijupuppy In reply to SpyroTailz [2017-04-10 15:34:44 +0000 UTC]

I barely touch this site anymore, so this reply is late, but

I never said..... any of the stuff you're implying?
I never said that marijuana can replace all medication ever???
I said "medical benefits", not "as a painkiller exclusively".
I didn't say "safer than nicotine", I said "safer than tobacco/cigarettes".
Additionally marijuana can be taken in ways besides smoking.
I would also like to note that I made this stamp and wrote the text 3 entire years ago.
I'm also a lil creeped out that you looked into me enough to find out my mother's disabled? lol

PS. Not mad, not trying to argue, just want to clear things up. Have a nice day!

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SpyroTailz In reply to kaijupuppy [2017-04-11 18:22:28 +0000 UTC]

Too lazy to argue but you mentioned your mother in like 3 comments which i guess i happened to read as i scrolled through them, had to check this because i know i dont usually do um, creepy stalker stuff...

so thats where i read about it

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kaijupuppy In reply to SpyroTailz [2017-04-11 18:32:09 +0000 UTC]

I don't really remember any of the convos I've had on this stamp, so my bad.

But also I did say I'm not trying to start an argument. I just wanted to clear things up cuz most of what you said had nothing to do with anything I've said.
Again - have a nice day. 👍

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SpyroTailz In reply to kaijupuppy [2017-04-12 10:39:56 +0000 UTC]

No worries and have a great day yourself!

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Sayba In reply to kaijupuppy [2013-05-21 21:49:05 +0000 UTC]

A trained hard all day.... Now I am ready to reply! xD

I just don't think it's worth legalizing, the medical benefits it has already exist in other medicines. I also read it has similar chemicals as tobacco, so we'd just be legalizing more cancer causing smokes. I still think if it was so great we'd already be using it.

As I said before, I know people that smoke it everyday and if one day I got sick of the stink it causes in the WHOLE of the street and called the police they would freak out knowing the couldn't have their smoke ever again. Their are children and dogs that get boxed in that house with all that smoke. I'm sure it will effect them somehow. I've been on strong pain killers myself and didn't get any bad side effects a part from a wobbly head which you'd get off a joint anyway.

Well a normal cigarette wouldn't effect your motor skills really, so it wouldn't matter how many of them you smoked. I did find a paragraph stating that it has caused accidents in the work place [link] might be in there I can't be bothered to read it again lol. I can understand tobacco being worse then weed to be fair. You normally smoke 10 cigarettes a day on average, since weed has an effect on your brain you would probably stop at one or two a day?

Fair enough, I really think so many people want it legalized as it would be a cheaper way of spending your weekend. Plus it would probably be more fun then drinking and having loads of glasses to wash up after. [link] After reading this guys story, I still thinks it's an awful drug.

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kaijupuppy In reply to Sayba [2013-05-24 18:49:07 +0000 UTC]

This has sat in my inbox for like 2 days now I'm sorry
but I've been trying to come up with new things to say LOL I feel like I'd end up repeating myself in some ways.

I know there are many other medicines that do have the same positive effects as marijuana but sometimes it's better to have like, multiple choices? and something non-addictive and natural on top of that.
Altho obviously it hasn't been 100% researched, marijuana DOES lack the carcinogens located in tobacco - a lot of people will say it does, but as far as my own research has gone, pretty much everywhere legitimate or semi-legit says no to that. But that's not to say it doesn't have ANY carcinogens I guess! I mean pretty much everything could contain carcinogens, so...

Tbh I know that a lot of people are dependent on it and this is bad.
And research HAS shown it can cause memory loss and/or effect the brain of those without fully matured brains, so that is pretty irresponsible of the people unfortunately...
And yeah, some people don't get side effects, but some people will get them for the same drugs and get them really bad. And some people are prescribed drugs for a long period of time that are highly addictive and just have overall negative effects, which sucks.

And I know that fact haha, weed makes you wobbly, tobacco don't.
And tbh I know people who will smoke shitloads a day and people who smoke only one or two a week, so it varies from person to person, but in average you wouldn't smoke more than 2 joints in a single day.

I don't think it'd be cheaper than booze lol, just a whole lot safer.
I don't have time to read the story rn but I will read it later - but thank you for the links anyway!!!

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Sayba In reply to kaijupuppy [2013-05-25 18:49:58 +0000 UTC]

Can't think of anything to say... xD

I think they have herbal things for that too, but anything that gets you high like weed does isn't good. Pain killers can make you a little dopey but weeds makes you brain dead. I also would not say weed is 100% none addictive. If my grandad suffered with pain, I would not be happy letting him smoke drugs for it since he lives alone and could have a fall.

A little research just showed me it is less addictive then caffeine, so it is definitely still addictive, I would not want to live without my coffee xD It also said a number of heavy users suffer with "Cannabis dependence".

What I read on wiki makes me think it is extremely dangerous to under 18s too.

I think if you were swopping booze for weed, you would perhaps smoke 1 or 2 joints maybe between all of you, since you would share. So that would be a hell of a lot cheaper then buying a 6 pack of cans each. Wiki is better, that story is a kid just talking about anxiety weed gave him [link] this shows effects long term users can suffer with.

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