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Pencil on paper, coloured in photoshop, textures added from scanned box of Pirates cereal. Hand lettered. Theme Set and Horus.Related content
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CodexWriter [2007-12-23 00:34:30 +0000 UTC]
I love the amount of detail in this. It's great just to stare at it and wonder.
But you know... Horus was black.
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putti-plush In reply to CodexWriter [2007-12-23 19:55:12 +0000 UTC]
If you mean race: Yes, technically they all were, as the gods from a North African tradition.
If you mean colour: yes, he is. The one in red is Set. I used purple as an adjunct colour to the black so the picture would have a three colour theme. Thank you very much for the comment, it is so kind of you to say something!
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CodexWriter In reply to putti-plush [2007-12-24 16:37:55 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I see.
Although, technically Set was white, for some reason or other. He had red hair and red eyes as well, and was considered the god of foreigners (aside from being the god of the desert and sand storms and Lower Egypt and so on).
Just out of curiosity; why is Set sleeping on Horus' lap? It seems odd to me, because Set ripped out Horus' eyes and Horus castrated him (then again they did sleep together). And why is Set in a dress (or kimono)?
See, that's what I love about this picture, it makes me so curious to understand it better.
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putti-plush In reply to CodexWriter [2007-12-29 21:11:10 +0000 UTC]
[If this is a double post I apologize; my internet has been bugging out on me.]
Yeah he was and still mostly is. The hair's the biggest red thing; I used the colour as an accent not the main colour, as well as making the skin white. I know my Set. I just mess with the representation to see who notices, like you. I also erased his mouth as a representation of how he was once a god in high regard until the Osiris cult ran their lovely political smear campaign thousands of years ago during the unification. Set was once also the god who protected Ra's sun barge as it traveled across the night from the evil chaos serpent Apep, as a brave hero.
Then again they did sleep together.
The clothes are part kimono, part western, and frankly just a design decision to draw something pretty. (Sadly there isn't always a hidden meaning *blushes*)
You flatter me with your interest!
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CodexWriter In reply to putti-plush [2007-12-29 22:27:55 +0000 UTC]
I like pretty. It definitely is pretty. You see, most people know squat about the myth and they're like "O_o really? Sry, I didn't know XP" whenever I point it out.
But remember the fox and the crow- you cannot trust you're flatterers. Mwahaha...
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putti-plush In reply to CodexWriter [2007-12-30 03:05:19 +0000 UTC]
Haha! I haven't been able to tell many people, and whenever I do, it's met with the coldest stares you could pull from a freezer. Most folks simply do not care.
Oh you crafty thing you!
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CodexWriter In reply to putti-plush [2007-12-31 03:24:57 +0000 UTC]
Ooh! Ooh! If they give you a cold stare, tell them about how Horus represents upper Egypt, which is in the south and Set represents Lower Egypt which is to the north and explain how upper Egypt and lower Egypt are decided by their elevation, and that the nile is one of the only rivers that flows from south to north, and how Set was not a god of Evil until the Hyksos invaded Egypt and they thought Set was Baal, and then after the Hyksos were driven out Greek, Roman and Christian theologists once again miscast him as evil during the 19th dynasty. Nothing turns people off like history!
Or you can just tell them that the Egyptian gods flooded the Earth with beer and rewarded Egypt to Horus because he castrated Set. That should perturb them.
J'ai ton fromage, maรฎtre corbeau!
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putti-plush In reply to CodexWriter [2008-01-03 16:36:45 +0000 UTC]
Believe it or not, I HAVE DONE JUST THAT. The looks they get after that are PRICELESS. Actually, one woman's only response was "Well you sure said all that really fast." People don't seem to reward learning anymore. It is truly disheartening that we seem to live in a world where, despite trivia gameshows, knowledge is only penalized so that a low common denominator may be upheld. I hang my head.
Come Thoth, come Ptah, let us go drink away our sorrows.
More like make them wanna move to Egypt, which will to them seem like a land of free beer also free of Homosexuals. Bah. (Remember: "There are no homosexuals in Iran!")
Well put, but then touche as indeed we would be the crow for speaking too much.
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CodexWriter In reply to putti-plush [2008-01-05 20:11:11 +0000 UTC]
Well, low common denominators are easier to deal with (for examle, 77/250 is a lot uglier than 3/10).
But none the less- can we invite Dionysus too? (He did invent beer, allegedly, after all).
Well, in ancient Egypt apparently homosexuality was acceptable. I'm sorry to hear its gone the other way due to recent events (recent as in the past 100 years ). Speaking of homosexuals and ancient civilizations, did you know that in parts of ancient Greece, women were just seen as a means of reproduction, but men were seen as true partners? Go figure. (Horus is also the Greek version of his actual name, something along the lines of Heru).
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putti-plush In reply to CodexWriter [2008-01-06 23:56:35 +0000 UTC]
Hell yes. Man, I never learned fractions well because the first time I was taught them, the teacher who did so was not a match teacher, and actually had to read the book before every class and tried to tech us fractions with beads and coloured markers. I never figured that system out.
Wrong pantheon, but maybe I can talk the bouncer into letting him in.
Yeah, it was more acceptable to be homosexual in Ancient Egypt. And to answer Greece: yeah I've read that and it is SO STRANGE, it is also insulting to women. Considering that good Athenian women were kept confined to the home, it makes you wonder if they were better or worse off in Sparta where the marriage ceremony was a guy mugging her and carrying her off.
(I like to read it "Har" as in Harakhty, Hathor, etc. We'll probably never know for sure.)
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CodexWriter In reply to putti-plush [2008-01-07 02:56:55 +0000 UTC]
Colored beads...?
Yeah Athens was really weird. Their patron- so to speak- was a goddess, and yet women had zilch status. Those weird Athenians. Everyone likes them because they were democratic and artsy, but they were misogynous and snobby, and Sparta totally pwned them in the Peloponnesian War. At least in Sparta women had some status- they defended the city while the men were off fighting. Strange, strange ancient Greece. Makes you wonder why most modern western literary, political and moral standers come from ancient Greece, eh?
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putti-plush In reply to CodexWriter [2008-01-07 04:07:24 +0000 UTC]
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Eh, the world is topsy-turvy at all times. Spartan women literally kicked ass, and Sparta's pwnage of Athens was EPIC WIN. We should remember though that history is written my the male winners. I think one role of woman in Athens (and later Rome) was of a fetish object. When interacting with the common madonna woman, she is to be repressed, while a celestial woman may be an object of devotion and affection, mirroring her status as the bringer of life. Women used to have that misunderstood power, the power of childbirth, which both enthralled and intimidated men. Ah, but I babble. One of the biggest reasons most western philosophy is influenced by Ancient Greece is due to many factors coming together. One, they wrote their thoughts down. Second, their thoughts managed to avoid being destroyed by the later political turmoil attended upon by the rise of the Arab states (such as the ottomans), and third they managed to be just one level more advanced than other civilizations around them that then copied them. With ancient Greece seen nostalgically by its neighbors in the coming centuries, its writings were favoured like one might keep Grandfather's favourite tie. Egyptian philosophy would have a bigger impact, I suspect, if the arabs hadn't burned the Alexandran library because of its "heretic and worthless" books. It wasn't until later in the ottoman arab empire that Greek works were retained, translated, and copied. Christian countries also had nostalgia for Greece because of its rich Christian history, and an advancement and achievement they could link to their forefathers. When the time came to look for modern standards without Christian influence (such as in the French and American revolutions) the Golden Age was turned to as a supposed age of pure reason, discounting or perhaps willfully not noticing how very religious the Greeks, and even the Philosophers were.
...By the way what is your icon protesting?
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CodexWriter In reply to putti-plush [2008-01-07 22:11:42 +0000 UTC]
Actually, in Rome the woman was seen as more than a fetish object, at least toward the end of the Empire (or the republic, I can't remember which)- they had almost all of the same rights as men, except actual citizenship (ie, being able to vote). But they could own business and stuff.
Tee hee, we're nerds
And my icon... the thing in the middle is pepperoni. I had a really bad experience on a hiking trip with pepperoni. You don't want to know.
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putti-plush In reply to CodexWriter [2008-01-08 16:47:53 +0000 UTC]
I was, admittedly, thinking more of early Rome. That's the problem when talking about ancient cultures... they change so much! Rome especially rapidly evolved. Your point is of course, well recieved.
We are, and I like you.
I... I'm sure I don't want to know. Just like you don't want to know about me a sweet delicious crab meat. Oh, why must you be so good, yet hate my stomach?
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CodexWriter In reply to putti-plush [2008-01-08 22:25:59 +0000 UTC]
Yeah... speaking of Rome, I was arguing with this guy about whether or not Christianity was a significant cause of the fall of Rome earlier today. He's clearly an idiot; (insert bitch-rant here). We argued before about whether gravity was the weakest force in the universe or not... someone happened to have a physics text book on them, so I was proved right. Mwahaha. /\/3r65 pwn /\/0085.
Pepperoni + hiking trip where there are no BATHROOMS + lack of flashlights + drum stalk + monthly dues > crab meat
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putti-plush In reply to Humanis [2007-10-06 03:12:15 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much! There's more where that came from if you go looking.
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ashesmakebeauty [2007-04-11 05:34:29 +0000 UTC]
OMG!! This is even better than the pencil drawing! Nice Job! The subtle computer coloring adds such a nice touch to the piece overall.
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putti-plush In reply to ashesmakebeauty [2007-04-11 06:03:40 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much. I didn't want to over-render the piece, so I stuck with flat colouring on the figures and gradients framing them. The addition of scanned material gave it a Japanese Print feel that I really like. I still feel attatched to the pencil drawing though... silly of me?
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ashesmakebeauty In reply to putti-plush [2007-04-11 18:24:26 +0000 UTC]
nooo not silly at all! I love my pencil work even after messing with it in other media. Be HAPPY!
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