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Suggestion: Blank Applications
Published: 2010-11-12 00:34:42 +0000 UTC; Views: 13740; Favourites: 71; Downloads: 59
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I am rather sick of some of my groups being overwhelmed with people that submit blank applications. So I think there should be an option to deny these automatically.What do you guys think?
EDIT: Thankyou so much for the DD! =TimberClipse for suggesting and ^ginkgografix for featuring it.
To all the people in the comments claiming this is lazy etc. It isn't, this is merely a suggestion that would help a lot of founders. If this were implemented, you always have the option of turning it off and allowing blank apps, so I'm not really sure why you are getting angry about an OPTION, not a permanent or compulsory change.
Thankyou to everyone that has left positive feedback and critiques, they are all greatly appreciated.
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If you automatically deny applications, people are just going to leave a string of dots to bypass that. You'll still have to read every application.
Waste of time.
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i think, if that's the case, you should notify people. or, just have the link to join involve questions that have to be filled out
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Personally... meh? When it comes to member applications, we just automatically allow. When it comes to contributors, we LIKE when people leave a comment, but it isn't necessary.
We used to require people leave a comment, but not everyone speaks English in our group and I don't want to make them use babelfish or something just to join. Once we undid the "leave a comment" rule, our group memberships doubled in just a month. So I don't think this is necessary, but I wouldn't really be opposed to it if someone added it to our options.
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naw, most groups auto accept members, if i run into one that doesnt i'll just put it in the comments section with an apology
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You are aware then people who have talent but not for writing will think twice before trying to type something and skip the idea for joining the group or you'll just get a lot of single dots 'lemme join' etc applications?
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Your group is probably better off without them - if they can't be bothered to do a minute or two's work for a one-off, how can you expect them to be a good contributor to a group?
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Yes. But I think Sostopher's intention was it to reduce the 'application spam', which might not work after all like that. And on a sidenote: I've seen it quite often that people who sent a blank application wrote a comment at the groups page.
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And some of them are quite good artists. Just not good with words and apparently don't feel so well if they have to type something into an application or the like.
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I don't see why they shouldn't implement this.
Its not like everybody is going to use it, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who WOULD use it.
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I think that is a great idea! I would get very annoyed if every time I got an application it was blank.
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Oh yes! That is definitely a must have option but I have noticed that people are in a hurry to submit to the groups and don't read, they just select things blindly
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I think this is a great idea! As for our ranting critics I would like to point something out. Lazyness (which isn't a word, but I use it only because you did...) and poor leadership displayed whining about blank applications? I think you are lazy by not being willing to write a couple of sentences about why you want to join a group. And your logic is terrible, but it is a rant and you sound like a bumbling idiot so I do not blame you personally. If I group admin wants to make his/her life marginally easier by using a feature like this I am all for it. They are putting their time into the DA community by being an admin in a group, so I don't see why we shouldn't give them the tools to be more efficient.
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I love this idea! And in conjunction with something like this: [link] it would really streamline the joining process! 
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Woah never saw that! That would be awesome to have together!!
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as long as the rules are clearly shown on the page. i've had a few problems with actually finding rules on group pages. maybe there should be a widget for that too?
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I love it. One of the groups I joined had thier rules hidden in links, so I had to do a bit of searching to find them >_<
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a rules widget would be amazing! it could have like a specific layout too, and it would be good because then once it gets out everyone knows there is one and should therefore look for it on the group page!
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Well, a lot of groups approve automatically, but yeah, I think if this only applied to groups where they aren't approved automatically, it'd be a good idea.
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I really like this idea and hope it gets implemented soon!
Congrats on the DD too!
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Argh! Be picky! For fuck's sake! Half the time people have open applications where, if you write anything, it's wasted because it's automatically approved! If you don't like it, put it in your group rules that if you're going to apply you need to verbally suck the founder's dick before you're allowed to join! Why would something like that bother you anyway? Do you not WANT members? Is it really that hard to deny someone because their application only says their NAME!? This site, isn't a job application! You are not paying these people to be undyingly interested in your group. If the contribute the absolute minimum to your group (numbers) then why in hells name would you complain!? People like you, give groups bad names! Flaggin chill, Sostopher! How the eff did THIS get a Daily Deviation!? The deviation its self doesn't even convey your point! Annoying! Bothersome! Ignorant! Childish!!! Piss on your shit! Especially your pissy Princessy Groups!
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I belong to a 'princessy' group. The reason why we don't want just anyone joining is that we do not want random idiots spamming our group with requests and messages. It also makes everything more close knit, and it is easier to identify members as there are few of them. It makes for art that is actually looked at by the group.
Yeah, but you know...Opinions and choices of others cannot possibly be valid if they don't match up with yours. Anyone that disagrees is ignorant, childish or princessy. I am sick of people like you whining about how the group throws them out.
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Jesus, mate, don't have a coronary over there. Calm down; if you don't like it, don't use it. I doubt you will be, either, but flaming on relentlessly at admins and the deviant you're branding your abuse on isn't going to get you anywhere. Anonymity may be prevalent on the internet, but you don't have to act on that fact and make a douche bag of yourself in front of everyone.
Seriously. Swearing only makes you look 'annoying! Bothersome! Ignorant! Childish!!!' Take your 12-year-old antics elsewhere. This isn't 4chan.
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You know. Who would want to read your points if all you did is swearing and bitching about the DD?
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"Flaggin chill, Sostopher!"
lol
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You know, you bitching about the matter isn't making yourself look an brighter. You simply type why you want to join the group, quite simple.
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I'm glad i'm not the only one who think this!
Your comment is right on the money! This kinda crap pisses me off!
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Right!? And then every other group has to suffer for your ridiculous stupidity! I hate this stuff!
Thanks, mate!
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Dude. Two words: Chill Pill.
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There's many kinds of groups. Quite some of them require you to write something, for one reason or another.
How did this got a DD? Because not everyone agrees with you.
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This got a DD because i gave it one, it's just that easy.
If you don't like this idea, why even bother showing how mature you can act? It is ONE suggestion that a few people would like to see on groups. It's a way to show that deviants care about this site, its features and the community. This doesn't give any bad reputation for groups - only for yourself with your behaviour.
And everyone has the right to choose in which way they want to use their groups. Some have rules that need to be followed before people can apply and become a member. If certain information are required to be accepted and these information aren't given it can be rather handy to have such feature. And even if it would be there you wouldn't be forced to use it anyway.
Next time you have such urge to leave such feedback on a DD, contact the GM itself and don't bother the deviant.
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One damn thing. Why can't anyone read the entire thing? I was complaining about the general lazyness and poor leadership the person displays by whining about blank applications. Don't talk about MY maturity. You don't even listen to people.
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I read the entire thing in it's full glory with all the "fuck", "dick" and whatever else got used.
So back to your topic: in which way are lazyness of a person connected to the suggestion for a new group feature? Some groups don't accept members automatically. In that case the people it are the people who are too lazy to follow a groups rules and for such groups this feature could be handy.
You don't do it either. End of dicussion.
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I hate it if I write a few sentances to explain why I should be member in that group, then it turns out that they possibly didn't even read because it was automatically approved.
This feature is useless if you accept members manually. Maybe it comes on handy if you have over 100 join requests per day and accept them all automatically - but I don't think that this is realistic even for the really big groups out there, also considering that those groups possibly won't accept members automatically anyways because of deviation spam.
Also, if the GM and the guy who suggested it know eachother and hang out together in chatrooms, then of course it will get a DD even if most people would disagree with it (thing is you can't even say anything about it as stated in the rules).
dActatorship anyone?
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"Also, if the GM and the guy who suggested it know eachother and hang out together in chatrooms, then of course it will get a DD even if most people would disagree with it (thing is you can't even say anything about it as stated in the rules). "
My DD guidelines don't say that someone has to talk to me on a regular basis to suggest DDs. This suggestion might not apply to all groups - especially those that accept new members automatically - but not every group does. A lot of groups want people to mention why they want to become members/contributors and just leave it blank. For those groups such a feature could be helpful. Still no one would be forced to use it, in case it will be implemented.
On the other hand, everyone is free to send me DD suggestion if you think there is something "better" out there.
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TOO DAMN RIGHT, MATE! That's exactly what I mean! It doesn't make sense! Ah, you know exactly what I was saying! dActatorship indeed!
Exactly! And how are you supposed to know whether it's automatically approved or not before you apply? Especially if it's not in your rules! It's stupid to get angry at people because you assume they assume they need to write and essay about why you want to be in the group. In english. Why do all english speaking people on DA assume that everyone speaks english? What do people have to do to join your group? Honestly!
I suppose it wouldn't be bad if it were implemented, so long as it wasn't mandatory. I, personally, just think it's an ass-hole/lazy thing to do. It takes less than a second to vote on something, and no more time to say no than yes, except that if they have the words you want it takes longer to say yes because you have to read the reasons why someone wants to join.
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it says to have it as an option, it doesn't say it would be mandatory
and it also doesn't say they need to write an essay, one of the groups i'm in required a link to a profile created of the oc for the group, that group gets so many member requests everyday that this would indeed be extremely handy. they're not lazy they just have a lot of jobs to do to run a group and it adds more work for them to go through and decline a whole heap of spammed blank join requests.
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"And how are you supposed to know whether it's automatically approved or not before you apply?"
"that if they have the words you want it takes longer to say yes because you have to read the reasons why someone wants to join."
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