HOME | DD
Sostopher β
Suggestion: Blank Applications
Published: 2010-11-12 00:34:42 +0000 UTC; Views: 13740; Favourites: 71; Downloads: 59
Redirect to original
Description
I am rather sick of some of my groups being overwhelmed with people that submit blank applications. So I think there should be an option to deny these automatically.What do you guys think?
EDIT: Thankyou so much for the DD! =TimberClipse for suggesting and ^ginkgografix for featuring it.
To all the people in the comments claiming this is lazy etc. It isn't, this is merely a suggestion that would help a lot of founders. If this were implemented, you always have the option of turning it off and allowing blank apps, so I'm not really sure why you are getting angry about an OPTION, not a permanent or compulsory change.
Thankyou to everyone that has left positive feedback and critiques, they are all greatly appreciated.
Related content
Comments: 118
You do know it's not his fault that this got a DD, right? FAQ #18: Who selects the Daily Deviation and how is it chosen? , FAQ #61: What is a Daily Deviation? and FAQ #873: What do I do when I disapprove of a Daily Deviation feature? will point you in the right direction.
On a side note, this is the most ironically hypocritical statement I have ever seen on this site that was not made by a troll or an idiot.
π: 0 β©: 1
Well, duh it it wasn't his fault. I know how those things work. It more surprised me that someone suggested it as a DD and it was actually accepted as such. Not blaming him.
Hypocritical, how?
π: 0 β©: 1
You called the idea childish when your comment wasn't exactly mature in its tone itself.
Take it up with =TimberClipse and the GM, then, instead of ranting it out on Sostopher's work, if you know it wasn't his fault.
π: 0 β©: 1
Oooh, so it's ONE part of it thats hypocritical. One word out of the entire thing. How disappointing. The point is still there, and the overall point is NOT hypocritical.
Ranting about the point is not ranting about how it became a Daily Deviation. I'd say you're talking about 5% of what I was talking about. 95% of what I said was about the author's comments/deviation its self. Focusing on one part of the comment and telling me I should go somewhere else to talk about that VERY SMALL point... It's only too bad. That part should only have been noted on as a "Yeah I agree," or "No, douche, this still qualifies as a DD because..." Not the entire point of something.
π: 0 β©: 2
Well, that person seems to be trolling her/himself so I guess that doesn't matter.
π: 0 β©: 1
Yes, it would seem so.
π: 0 β©: 1
They made a fool out of themselves, so yay.
π: 0 β©: 1
Yeah, but now the GM and the suggester are doing the same thing as he did
π: 0 β©: 2
oh, I forgot to mention that it's nice to know that he didn't leave any comment about my analysis how useless this feature would be.
Man, why bother, he's just a darn gallery mod with no administrative privileges. Just sucks a bit for those who actually deserve to be seen and featured.
π: 0 β©: 2
Trotz allem bin ich immer noch weiblich. Erst informieren, dann rummeckern
Und sofern ihr lesen wΓΌrdest, was wir schreiben wΓΌrden, statt in euer kleinen ignoranten Welt weiter zu nΓΆrgeln, wΓΌrdet ihr auch den Sinn des Ganzen verstehen. Aber natΓΌrlich ist es einfacher ein bisschen Drama zu produzieren.
SchΓΆnen Tag noch!
π: 0 β©: 1
Und trotzdem ist dieses Blank Application-Feature total sinnlos.
π: 0 β©: 1
Nicht fΓΌr Gruppen, die von neue Mitglieder verlangen, dass gewisse Informationen in solchen "Bewerbungen" eingeschrieben werden.
Davon abgesehen ist es als optionales Feature zu verstehen und niemand wΓΌrde gezwungen werden es zu nutzen. Schon gar nicht solche Gruppen, die automatisch jeden Eintritt in eine Gruppe akzeptieren.
π: 0 β©: 0
Yeah, right? But I saw they did comment on your analysis too. They're such failures OTL
I totally agree with you.
π: 0 β©: 1
maybe they did. But I think they know themselves how usefull/useless this feature is - which is probably the reason why they only justified the DD feature in itself (and not its actual functionality/(un-)handyness).
But as long as it creates drama, everything is fine. 
π: 0 β©: 1
Too right! XD
They could never win the argument anyway. It's why they didn't even try.
π: 0 β©: 0
Well they somehow need to fight back and leave a good impression. They would lose a lot of members if they didn't hold up this nice facade.
π: 0 β©: 1
Win-sauce, Sir, Win-sauce.
π: 0 β©: 0
What I meant was - your tone and the manner of your presentation of your comment are hardly mature. You could have simply taken the matter up with =TimberClipse and the Gallery Mod in charge instead of spilling your thoughts out in such a fashion on the deviation. Also, the way you talked about how annoying Groups were with their applications and such...I don't think it was necessary? Group admins will like to do what they want to do with Groups, so take that up with them too.
Your comment looked like it was having a rage at Sostopher for suggesting such an idea. More or less, you could have just written your comment as "I don't understand why Groups want applications" and explained your thoughts from there calmly. It's not that hard to be polite while ranting.
π: 0 β©: 1
Good idea 
Get to work, dA staff
π: 0 β©: 0
YES! My group could use this xD
π: 0 β©: 0
This would be a great option for groups with hidden passwords in the rules! People never seem to read those >.>
π: 0 β©: 1
We had one in our group, but even I missed the hidden password the first time I read the rules because it was hidden in a part that doesn't apply to me (in the DON'T STEAL part... I would never steal art, so I skipped it). But I'd say only about 5% of people who applied ever found the password the first time. But we found even with the hidden password, people still broke the rules when submitting anyway, so there was no real point to it.
π: 0 β©: 1
Very true, but it's better than not trying. At least some people follow the rules. I'm a goody-goody so I always read the all the rules XD
π: 0 β©: 1
Yeah, me too. I at least make sure I'm not about to upload something that is against the rules of the club, or I'll ask if I don't know for sure.
π: 0 β©: 1
Same. Now if only every member was like that, this would be one perfect site XD
π: 0 β©: 1
i think i would prefer it the other way. the group has the ability to check wether they want information along with the application and only if they check that, the user gets the form when he applies. with an error if he leave it empty.
of course dependent on what member "position". for example, i have a group, where members are auto accepted, yet people do add an unecessary comment. if the field is just not there, the one who applies will save some time as well
anyway, congrats on the DD
the process definetely can be improved
π: 0 β©: 0
Congratz on the DD!
You deserve it
TC
π: 0 β©: 1
u suggested it... nice
π: 0 β©: 1
I don't see the point in having an application at all. Why should I type anything to join a group?
π: 0 β©: 1
Some groups may require information to process applications
If you don't want to type anything, don't. Whether you're accepted or not is another matter.
π: 0 β©: 0
Ah, you got a DD on it! Congrats
π: 0 β©: 0
I don't like how this is a Daily Deviation. But, it's an alright idea, I guess? I'm okay with blank applications.
π: 0 β©: 2
As I was the one who suggested it, I wanted to address your comment here.
I read what you said to Aaron, and you are right, it isn't art per say, and based on that I understand why you don't want it to have a DD... Although what makes deviantART amazing is that here is a mix of Art and Community...
This is the community side of it. Why shouldn't community be allowed to grow and thrive just as much as the art side? Deviants such as myself enjoy both sides, y using things like Groups, Chat etc. I am sure you have as well!
Don't put this down, it deserves a DD as it is a good piece that will help the community.
TC
π: 0 β©: 2
Oh God. ._.
I didn't mean to 'put it down', I have my reasons as to why I said what I said, and as I already pointed out simply, 'Personal preference'. I already understood and knew basically everything you said. I took it into consideration, but, again, it's my personal preference.
π: 0 β©: 1
No worries... If you take a look at the deviation about 80% are comments a lot worse than that
TC
π: 0 β©: 1
Yes, but Daily Deviations seem more like a place to celebrate the art part and the community part is celebrated elsewhere. There are tons of places on DeviantArt that community it up. You don't even have to search for them, they're thrown at you all the time, especially if you want to be in that community. You're combining both is great and all, but, if you'll allow a metaphor, it's like having two piles of m&ms and putting a red in with the green just because you want to mix them, even though the autistic children playing with them will get confused. Time and place for everything and this placement is just off. Again, I applaud your desire to mix art and community, but assuming people need you to tell them it's a mix by putting Community reds in with the Art greens demonstrates a level of ineptitude that borders on the imbecilic, if I may use a quote.
dn
π: 0 β©: 1
Take a look at this article: [link]
π: 0 β©: 1
Okay, thanks. I was going to revoke the whole "Shouldn't be a DD" statement on my own comment, but once you post you can't take things away.
You have to admit, though, I made a good point.
π: 0 β©: 1
No actually I don't believe you did.
You had to be asked along with others to take a step back by the Gallery Moderator because you were disrespectful of the artist... For that I see no reason to say you made a good point.
Be respectful of people. That's the lesson I hope you take from today.
Although, given your latest post: [link]
You have clearly not learned that message.
For that I am sorry for you.
TC
π: 0 β©: 1
If they're disrespectful to me I feel the need to show them the proper amount given. The Deviant who's deviation we're talking on did not deserve my anger/childish original comment, and I admit I could have used a better "tone" in the original, but that's not what you two are doing. Beyond that, your "respectful" high and mighty tone isn't respectful at all, it denotes a nice image of "You're an idiot and I'm so high above you it's astounding" which brings us to the whole "I give the amount of respect you deserve" idea back into the game. All anyone has a problem with is my "tone" and the "shouldn't be a DD" thing, then I made a good point.
π: 0 β©: 2
If they're disrespectful to me I feel the need to show them the proper amount given.
π: 0 β©: 0
"If they're disrespectful to me I feel the need to show them the proper amount given."
Have a good day mate, I would really suggest changing your attitude in the future to deviants on dA. Being nicer than other people will never hurt you
TC
π: 0 β©: 0
Why not? Each category on deviantART should be entitled to have a daily deviation.
π: 0 β©: 1
Personal preference. That's it, really.
π: 0 β©: 1
| Next =>