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Please, enlighten me.I used 's stamp template, and I appreciate that.
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LOL "Have a good day, I'm off!" AKA you owned her with the cow pic, she has nothing to come back with.
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Exactly. I love how she just criticized me for not accepting "the truth" and yet she's not willing to accept anything.
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LOL right? She's said that to me so many times yet didn't give ANY proof.
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Yep. She's pretty lame. Someone needs to chop the legs off of that high horse.
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She makes hueg ass posts to confuse people.
She also thinks that machines are incapable of feeling, yet we ourselves are chemical machines.
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Yeah. Then when you disregard one little part IT'S OH SO TERRIBLE AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING.
I never thought of it that way. It's true.
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She things hunting is UNNECESSARY in the urban inviro, well guess wa' I saw JUST YESTERDAY a pair of guys who looked like they where going on a fucking trek or something in southern Dorchester Road in SC.
Fuck, she hates farms and acts like they are the worst things in the world, says she has carnivorous friends, and then says hunting is unnecessary. Make up your fucken mind woman! *faicpalm*
"HUNTERS JUST DO IT FOR THE MONEY!" <--- SHE ACTUALLY SAID THIS TO ME. NO FUCKING LIE.
Seriously? Sure there can be money involved, but that doesn't mean it isn't a respectible killing. Some of these guize have RITUALS that respect the dead. <--- I actually said this to her
Well it's still unnecessary. Also, meat is for the taste. <--- her response
Actual words, paraphrased, but true. I can link you to the chain if you want.
Our brains use a special type of cell processing that is based on... well, 'action potential'. Kind of like probability er something.
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Yeah, she's pretty ridiculous. HUNTIN IS EVUL WE DON NEEDA HUNT NO MORE.
HUNTERS HUNT FOR MONEY? Holy shit. She obviously doesn't know how much equipment costs alone.
Hunting for money isn't normal.
Meat is for taste? Lol, no. Yeah, it tastes good, but it's really good for you. Lots of fantastic amino acids.
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Amino acids.
Don't forget the iron~
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IRON. Obviously she's lacking this shit or logic would actually work in her brain.
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I remember that conversation. The chick is dense, that's all there is to it. Also, usually hunters are the ones doing the paying to hunt, not vice versa (unless it's like a bounty, which here in the US has been outlawed for over 40 years o_o). That reminds me, she always likes to compare her country with the whole world, as if everything that happens in Holland is exactly what's happening in the rest of the world. For example, in a typical animal rights argument with her, she continues to say people who "abuse" animals can get away with it. Ok, maybe in Holland, but not in fucking America. The chick is just flat out retarded. I hate her logic, it irritates the shit out of me.
Like I said to someone else: she has never experienced true suffering if she's willing to trivialize such things as the holocaust and slavery. She believes true pain and evil is done to animals, which shows you just how naive she is.
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She still thinks that Germany and the US are 100% the same in terms of wolf population, except "the Germans know how to treat the wolves RIGHT" while the US is full of sadists. Yeah, despite the fact that our wolf population is over ten times larger than Germany's, we've had our wolf population at least ten years longer than them, and last time I checked there's a LOT of Germans that want the wolf taken out of the country, just like saveelk.com over here, and let's not forget that the Eurasian wolf is a smaller subspecies than the Canadian wolf and is apparently shyer. MAYBE non-lethal techniques work for some ranchers in Germany, but you HAVE to look into the fact that the wolf population is much smaller and thus most likely won't have any need to go after the cattle. But here in the US? Our elk population has dropped IMMENSELY and the packs have already spread past the initial Montana territory that the officials wanted them to stay. You have to take into account those facts before spreading bullshit. In her own words "do your research before you cram out nonsense".
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ROFL I love when she says that. That and "your arguments crash like fire and water." You can tell she's trying so hard to sound profound. Her paragraphs are like word salads, and her grammar is as deplorable as ever!
Extra lulz because Germany hardly even has a population. Last censused in 2007 it was somewhere between 5-10 wolves. I sincerely doubt that in 4 years it's grown that much, or in a number comparable to the US, hell, even a number to match the lower 48 (Rockies or Great Lakes!) I'm not sure about the Eurasian wolf being shyer, Dark-Hyena would know more about that, but I believe it has to do with less aggressive encounters with man, whereas in North America, we have obviously intentionally tried to wipe them out. That never happened in Europe, at the very least, not to that extent. Sure, in Russia, they gathered a few thousand of them up and gassed them every year or so, but their population remained steady at what it is today - 60,000. I think at one point they were able to get it down to 40,000 (maybe 20,000 even? I forget, I'd have to check again). All I know is that it was NOWHERE near the kind of mass extirpation we had in America where only small pockets of populations existed. Wolves in Eurasia are more likely to attack humans because of this. Wolves in North America are -just now- starting to become habituated again and starting to attack people on a regular basis. And like you said, the elk populations have diminished greatly because its' the wrong subspecies they planted down here, lol.
More info in great documentary films like Yellowstone Is Dead, Undue Burden and The Wolving of America.
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Yeah, she really needs to read up on foreign law and policy.
Yep. "A Doll House"
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Lol she'll get it eventually. No way in hell do I believe she's 24.
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You should post this picture to her: [link]
Old but true. No such thing as a vegan like she claims to be. Bet she loves smearing all those animal products all over her face and on her hair, mmm yeah. Oh yeah hows about that house she lives in? Courtesy of animal products. That computer she's using right now to type to you on? Yeah, animal products in that too! What a hypocrite! But you learn to love it. 8D
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That picture is amazing! So true.
Either that or she's one of those psycho earth hippies who never shaves or bathes. I fear those people. Yep! Just about everything is made from animals. You can't avoid it ever.
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LOL as you say that, I picture her covered in fur. Ew.
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Oh lord. What has been imagined cannot be unimagined.
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It's okay, she started it.
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[link] You should get a kick out of this if you haven't already
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Oh lord, that's rich...
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Its no use talking to this person.
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It's definitely not.
Kind of entertaining to see her responses though. Intelligence fails make me giggle.
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Eating animals is a very complex thing IMO.
Animals in the wild have an instinct to eat meat, humans do not, we have a desire to eat meat. It smells good and tastes good. There is a difference.
I became a vegetarian (am now going for vegan) a year ago. I loved meat. Couldn't imagine how I could live without it. But when it came to satisfy my own hunger for meat vs the suffering of an animal (and no matter if you think animals are intelligent or not, they are very capable of suffering), I choose the option that makes me able to live with myself. I still miss meat but I know what I buy and what I endorse by buying that factory meat, isn't worth the taste of the greatest burger in the world.
Of course you can love animals and eat them but then you have to realize that you are putting your own desires above the life of another being for a product that is not essential for you to keep on living, only to tickle your tastebuds. Don't kid yourselves.
Meat is not a necessity for humans to be able to survive, not anymore. Not saying it is right or wrong for you to eat meat, just saying what I think is really going on.
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How about children older people and pregnant women meat seems to be a necessity for them and there are some people who cannot afford to go on an all vegan diet. Now I will admit back when humans were apes they didn't eat a lot of meat but somewhere a long the lines we began to eat meat. Just because you think we don't need meat doesn't mean it's true. There is no all size fits all and that is what you are doing by saying we do not need meat but hey to each their own.Β
By the way I am not mad at you I am just making a point.Β
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Most animals are carnivores, their stomaches only digest meat, making them unable to eat plants.
These animals hunt for their food
Some animals are herbivores their stomaches only digest plants.
Humans are omnivores, we can eat and digest other animals and plants.
Humans don't hunt for their food, we breed them and kill them.
Invalid stamp is now invalid.
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Actually most animals are omnivores and herbivores. Carnivores are outnumbered, if you knew trophic levels, you would know that they have little place in an energy field since they can only eat one type of producer.
Humans, being an omnivore, are able to digest both meat and plants, like you've stated. Humans actually do hunt for their food, a lot more than you'd think! You shouldn't generalize countries if you're willing to talk about "all animals", because in that case, a majority of humans don't have the luxury of domesticated livestock or getting their meat from "grocery stores". In fact, there are instances where humans who -do- have the luxury will go to impoverished countries just to hunt so they can give the meat to the natives.
I could go on and on about why hunting is a way better method of getting your meat than factories, but that's not the main point of this stamp. This stamp is referring to the whackos who try to push their "vegan beliefs" on others about why you shouldn't eat meat when it's perfectly natural and normal for animals to eat other animals (in regards to the fact that they're a carnivore or omnivore, in which case we are!)
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1. Actually, there are several types of carnivores. Barring the obligate carnivore, many of them can indeed eat plants. It's just that animals can and do make up a significant portion of their diet.
2. Many humans do hunt for food. So that's super false.
3. The stamp never mentioned hunting, it mentioned eating. Let's not make up side arguments because we assume it's going to help our argument.
4. If we've covered the fact that humans are omnivores, then it means that both meat and plants are a biologically appropriate and natural part of the diet of humans
5. Agriculture is an identifier of your species, deal with it.
Bad argument was bad, please try again
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1. Links would be cool.
2. You think i don't know that? of course some humans do, but most don't, they just buy the meat at the supermarket.
3. "Making-up side arguments"? rhe way most humans eat animals has everything to do with this stamp, hunting would be the way to go, instead we breed them and kill them.
4. Point?
5. Point?
Illogical comeback was illogical, think again.
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1. Cool, but not needed. This is basic biology. I'll toss wiki at you anyway before ya get to th' whinin [link]
2. That's not what you said, what you said was that humans don't hunt for food. Backpedal faster.
3. Actually, no. I support sustainable hunting but if everyone went out and hunted the depletion to natural ecosystems would be devastating. Seriously, research before you talk.
4. Point being, if humans are omnivores by nature the problem with them eating biologically appropriate food is what now?
5. Point being, if agriculture, including the breeding and farming of animals, is actually an integral part of your species, what's the problem with doing it? Your personal opinion based hangups, believe it or not, don't count.
You might want to go research the definition of illogical, then come back. Because you've managed to give me the most illogical once since my last conversation with a PeTA member
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1. That didn't had categories of carnivores, just explanation of what a carnivore is.
2. Mostly humans simply buy their food, just a few hunt, taking assumptions through posts of what people know isn't very smart.
3. I'm not saying everyone needs to go out and hunt, I'm saying that the meat company should be reduced, most people don't need meat, only the ones who can't adapt to vegan diet and the ones who have health problems should buy meat, the breeding technique is awful and hunting would be much more respectable, but we need to keep the production running, the numbers would still be high if meat-eaters only applied to those two categories.
4. The problem is how we do it, we breed, treat them poorly through their lives and then kill them, that's the problem.
5. So you think that because everyone does it it's right? if everyone started raping children would it be right to you then?
Like you said, personal opinions don't count if the majority does it.
ilΒ·logΒ·iΒ·cal (-lj-kl)
adj.
1. Contradicting or disregarding the principles of logic.
2. Without logic; senseless.
Anything else, sir?
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1. Then you might want to delve further into it yourself before you come and make the assumptions you did.
2. If you say something in your post and I do not know you personally, it's quite safe to make that assumption. If that's not what you meant the easiest way to get around that is to not post it. Welcome to logic
3. There is no logical reason to have to adapt to a vegan diet, only other people's moral shortcomings (see: not mine). I feel no need to go vegan, even if I could. Humans are naturally omnivores, and I'll stay one as I did research on it and found it the most appropriate diet for myself. And all this is really telling me is that you enjoy blanket statements. How a place that breeds animals for human consumption varies from place to place, and everyone's got their own principles on it. There is such thing as common method, but the assumption that they are all universally adopted is illogical.
4. You have no proof that this is the universal norm, though if that's how you feel then you're welcome not to eat meat. Telling me I'm wrong for following my natural diet is illogical, however
5. Epic strawman. You've passed into PeTArd territory, congratulations. If you disagree with the way agriculture is done, then don't support it. But to tell me I'm wrong because it's not something your support is stupid
You've learned the definition, grats. Now stop being such a damn good example of it
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1. Classification
Carnivores that eat insects and similar invertebrates primarily or exclusively are called insectivores, while those that eat fish primarily or exclusively are called piscivores. Large piscivore amphibians were the first vertebrates to conquer land, they evolved 400 million years ago. Insectivores evolved next and predators of other vertebrates after that.
All i could find was this, and your point here is? To say that my original post was wrong? great, it was, i'm not going to list all the categories of carnivores in a post, everyone knows what the basic definition of carnivore is.
2. No need to know me poersonally, just ask, welcome to logic.
3. Most slaughter houses are, do you think that someone who works there treats any of the animals with respect? the fact they are working at such place tells the answer, and of course there are exceptions like the human hunters topic, but mostly they are the same, like i said, ask me first.
4. Ever watched earthlings and food inc? "do you think that someone who works there treats any of the animals with respect? the fact they are working at such place tells the answer"
Also
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You were saying?
5. You said because the majority does it is right and other opinions aren't valid, no?
And i'm the one being illogical, right.
Never said that because i don't support something it means it's not right, go ahead you can believe it's right as much as you want, i'll still be here not supporting it and saying my opinion about it.
Already knew it actually, you asked for it.
Care to enlighten me of how am i being illogical?
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1. If you don't like falsities in your argument pointed out it's best not to make them false
2. No thanks, I'm not going to sit down and get to know someone for the sake of an argument when people can just say what they mean.
3. Slaughterhouses are slaughterhouses. Slaughterhouses rarely breed their own animals and are instead just the last leg of the life to death process. Do you honestly research anything before you make the arguments you make? Try again
4. Earthlings was a bunch of bullshit, sorry to say. So was food inc. Bring me things without such a heavy bias. Only the weak and the stupid arrive to such conclusions from watching a couple documents without any extra research from a non-biased source. And quite frankly 1 video =/= entire industry. That's like saying that if I have a video of one daycare beating kids that they all do it. Blanket statement has a blanket
5. No, what I said was that your personal hangups are not the basis on what other people should do with themselves, especially essentially factless arguments like yours
You're illogical because you're entire argument consists of nothing but strawmans and lack of research on the actual subject of what you're talking about
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Actually... humans are animals too.
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Animals MUST eat each other if they want to survive. Same reason why it's alright for animals to kill, but not for humans.
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Nope, because we humans have the ability choose to eat meat so that makes it wrong, but since carnivorous/omnivorous animals "can't choose whether they want to hunt or not" it's okay for them to kill and eat things.
... or so I've heard.
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Pretty much.
I'm vegan, but don't bash omnis who really consider where they purchase their meat from or kill their own food humanely.
People are always going to eat meat, the best thing I can do it show them more humane ways to go about it.
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It's a choice. So it's wrong for an omnivore to eat meat just because they can choose not to?
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Apparently so. *shrugs*
Although I don't see any vegetarians getting mad at bears, even though bears can choose not to eat meat. xP
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They're just so blind that they can't see past how "evil" humans are.
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I never thought of that question untill this stamp.TY for stamp
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ugh! i hate it when people say that humans eating meat are evil but carnivoric animals aren't. i find that being unfair, even if i am a vegetarian. 
great stamp with a great question
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Our ancestors survived on meat, so what's so cruel about us eating it?
Thank you.
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