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BEFORE ACCUSING ME OF ANYTHING: READ THE ENTIRE DESCRIPTION. Please? 'Kay? Thanks----------
I was encouraged to make this stamp by my friends and watchers after a situation I went through the other day. This is in no way meant to be butthurt of any kind, nor revenge on anyone. I also mean no offense to rule breakers or those who inform others about the rules.
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Please note: I used the word ‘rule-keepers’ as is shown in consideration that I couldn’t find a specific term to describe those who catch others breaking the rules and confront them. I mean no offense whatsoever by the way it is presented in this stamp.
The heart, meanwhile, was meant to lighten the mood—not for sarcasm of any kind.
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Why is this titled the way it is?
Because, recently, I was snagged breaking the rules.
I was coloring manga pages without linearting them beforehand, etc, etc.
Now, before ya’ll start, yes, coloring manga pages without linearting them is considered against the rules. Just as you, I thought there were loopholes, and I was sorely mistaken.
However, me breaking the rules isn’t the point of this stamp.
The point is: not all rule breakers are out there trying to create havoc and make this site a hole.
I’m using my earlier situation to emphasize what I’m trying to get across.
As I said, I was breaking the rules. When I was confronted by someone about it, I naturally tried to find every loophole and excuse I had (in my defense: at that time, I didn’t see them as loopholes or excuses, but just how things were). And I was shot down pretty much every time.
However, the person confronting me about it was firm, but considerate. They did not bash me. They did not call me names. They were firm, but not inconsiderate. In fact, they even gave me suggestions on how I could continue coloring manga pages, just so long as I didn’t upload them here on dA.
That is called handling a situation correctly.
HOWEVER.
Just as the situation was getting settled… I was introduced to a not so considerate person.
“You’re dumb, for real. [link to rule]. Read it.”
Okay, so maybe it’s not that big of a deal. Maybe someone’s just very passionate about keeping the rules and is tired of having to deal with rule breakers? So naturally, I replied (and, yes, I was rather troubled and offended at the time):
“That was uncalled for. For real :/ I’ve already discussed about my manga pages with someone. I suggest looking at the original conversation before so blindly attacking me with such a brash comment. Thanks, Wolfy~”
And… this was the reply:
“I did really, now you’re blindly assuming!
What? Now at this point, my earlier assumption of ‘person aggravated with rule breakers’ went through the window. Who jibes at something so off topic? I’ll tell you, the rest of the conversation was pretty much just trying to rile me up. If you must see the rest, feel free to visit my journal, but I’d rather not put it here as I don’t see it necessary to emphasize my point anymore than this :/
What’s my point with this? To show my butthurt? To get revenge on this person?
No.
It is this:
If you’re going to inform someone that they are breaking the rules, please don’t do it in the way this person did. I say this as I was the one having to deal with it. Not all rule breakers are doing it on purpose or to make this site a hole. As it is, if this person had been the only one to talk to me about the manga colorations, I would not have stopped. I’ll admit that here and now. However, I had someone who came on and, while being firm, I had a civil conversation with them.
Who won me over to stop posting colored manga pages?
I’m not ridiculing those out there that are passionate about keeping this site as they dream of it to be. I’m merely pointing out that popping on and calling people dumb or being rude is NOT going to do anything but cause unnecessary fights. That day when I was accused could have turned out much more miserable if it hadn’t been for that considerate person who talked to me in a civil and patient manner.
So, if you’re out there and informing people in the more considerate way: thank you.
If you’re out there popping on as the above person did: I think you need to rethink how you’re “keeping this site clean”. Because bashing people is NOT keeping this site clean, it’s only causing fights.
Once again: not all rule breakers are trolls, trying to cause havoc, or intent on making this site a hole.
I wasn’t. And I’m sure there are others out there who weren’t either.
Before you comment, please remember that this stamp is in no way meant to offend those keeping the rules and informing others. I’m merely pointing out that not all rule breakers are evil or trolls, etc.
To be quite honest, I’m rather impressed with those out there trying to keep this site clean. It’s a big job, and I know it can be hard as I’ve met people who are doing such. I also know it can be stressful and irritating at times, but please do remember that those breaking the rules are people too.
Not asking for pity. Not asking you to be all pansy in getting people to understand the rules.
I’m merely asking for a little consideration.
Firmness is one thing. Bashing/being rude is a whole ‘nother.
“Do not bash me.
Inform me <3”
And before you get defensive: I know there are trolls out there. This is not referring towards troll breaking the rules on purpose, but those who never meant harm in what they were doing.
Also, please do not post usernames or names of people you are blaming for being obnoxious rule breakers or inconsiderate ‘rule keepers’. This stamp is not meant for people to bash others, and as it is, how can one comment on that when they don’t know the story from both sides? There’s always two sides to a story, so be considerate of those you’ve had a rough time with, whether you’re still angry at them or not.
Oh, and remember-- if you're going to comment: be mature about it ;3
Thanks for understanding~!
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EDIT: To be frank, I'm tired of getting comments from people. Especially people who completely miss the point of the stamp, or find some way to twist my words to satisfy their need to be offended and chastise someone.
The stamps are old. I don't really make stamps anymore. I just keep my rants to myself now. Hell, some of my opinions have softened up too in regards to actually caring about those topics these days.
But yeah, comments are disabled now. Thanks to those who offered some interesting insight on any subjects on my stamps!
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Comments: 165
ChikitaWolf In reply to ??? [2011-08-04 19:55:52 +0000 UTC]
...how did I not back it up with logic?
If I've made a point, doesn't that mean I have
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Morgue-Awall [2011-08-04 20:45:45 +0000 UTC]
Okay then, why don't you explain how I didn't back up my point. o.O
and perhaps saying I've made a point without making one. That one confuses me the most
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Morgue-Awall [2011-08-04 21:06:13 +0000 UTC]
...."Okay then, why don't you explain how I didn't back up my point. o.O"
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Morgue-Awall In reply to ChikitaWolf [2011-08-04 23:39:05 +0000 UTC]
Because I'm too tired to give a shit anymore.
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Morgue-Awall [2011-08-04 23:44:08 +0000 UTC]
Hm~ That's unfortunate~
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Morgue-Awall [2011-08-05 01:03:01 +0000 UTC]
Kinda appears like you're trollin' now o3o
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mirz333 In reply to ??? [2011-07-21 19:44:26 +0000 UTC]
A quick note to let you know this deviation has been featured here ---> [link]
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5Ds-rabid-fangirl In reply to ??? [2011-07-19 21:25:39 +0000 UTC]
I agree I once posted a sketchdump in a wrong category and someone commented saying that I had made a mistake and that I should change. When I asked which category it was supposed to go in the person politely told me the right one. I felt like I was an idiot for not knowing but now I know
I'm glad I didn't get a very rude person for that mistake
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ChikitaWolf In reply to 5Ds-rabid-fangirl [2011-07-19 21:48:51 +0000 UTC]
Rude people aren't fun >3< ((Well, depending on whether you like to play with rude people or not >3>))
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Jeakilo In reply to ??? [2011-07-19 17:22:22 +0000 UTC]
*thumbs up*
Everyone makes mistakes v0v
I've accidentally submitted pictures to the wrong folders on groups before, and they act like you've committed this mass atrocity to the site. Come on now, some people just make honest mistakes.
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Jeakilo [2011-07-19 17:59:03 +0000 UTC]
I make mistakes all the time, lol.
Ah, yes, folders . I'm Co-Founder to two groups and Founder of one and I have NO problem whatsoever movin' the artwork to the right place myself, lmao. I don't know what's wrong with a wrongly placed submission every once in a while x'D
And to get yelled at because of it? I actually find it amusing xD
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Jeakilo In reply to ChikitaWolf [2011-07-19 18:16:35 +0000 UTC]
I work at a couple different groups and its never much of a problem, hah..
Yea xD; A lot of groups apparently act like you did it on purpose. Mistakes happen..
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Mla-wolf In reply to ??? [2011-07-19 16:23:43 +0000 UTC]
Seriously. It dun help the argument when someone's rude about it.
But, luckily, there are those people out there that go about it the right way.
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Gabalot [2011-07-19 05:23:39 +0000 UTC]
Lineart manga pages? What? Can someone send me a link?
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Gabalot [2011-07-19 14:48:15 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, you have to lineart them yourself otherwise you can get in trouble for copyright.. like I did >3>
Are you looking for an example or the rule link?
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Gabalot In reply to ChikitaWolf [2011-07-20 03:13:56 +0000 UTC]
OH, that's what. I thought your mangas had to have lineart.
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Ramen27 In reply to ??? [2011-07-19 00:16:00 +0000 UTC]
Why should people need to be "informed"? Shouldn't they already have informed themselves before they even begin posting on this site?
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Ramen27 [2011-07-19 00:22:07 +0000 UTC]
Well, I know I read the rules Yet I still screwed up, lol.
Some people need reminding, some people need to be informed because they didn't understand the rules or didn't read them.
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Blackmoonrose13 [2011-07-18 22:38:03 +0000 UTC]
I would like to say... THANK YOU
When I first started out I didn't color lines from people on DA I was doing manipulations and others things that were against rules. That was my early year never got talked to about it I was a nothing then I colored lines from people on DA (with permission) and then got yelled at for my early work being what it was insulted really treated like you were with there jerk. I got really mad at them and wrote a journal saying I got them down leave me alone and learn some manners.
Then there was another time I was coloring lines from a person (again with permission) and well I would get rudeness from these people I didn't know why till I asked. "Why the heck are you being rude" and they tell me because the line artist was tracing and they blocked them.... Um so I am supposed to be treated like crap for coloring lines (with permission) from a person who was tracing and I had no clue at all that it was a tracing?
I was getting so annoyed reporting and other things I lost one rule offender turning into a troll to getting 2 and well ahhhhh it was murder.
Then it stopped because they got banned for other crimes (you know rudeness and such i assume never gave a reason).
Then I color a line post it into a group and get yelled at by the contributor of the group who was the leader of the 'yell at me for coloring traces that I didn't know were tracings club' and the group I submitted some colored lines and they accepted for it was withing the group standards never told me I couldn't submit lines even asked if it was OK they didn't say no and never told me to stop. Well this person tells me I can't submit into the group any more any lines because she is in charge and all that the group never posted a journal about it so I felt mad as hell. I told the person you don't have to be rude and make the rude comment on the page of the art i submitted you could just give a note a POLITE note. Then she goes on telling me a lot of my lines are traces and I am not a real artist for coloring lines (used to that comment and yet people get paid for coloring lines on comics for like dc and marvel just saying). I told them if we met under other cases you might be friends with me. Then more rudeness. She left she deactivated her account.
Sorry for this story when ever I see something like this I talk about my early years and such you know.
I am happy if you read it.
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Blackmoonrose13 [2011-07-19 00:22:51 +0000 UTC]
I read it all ^^ I remember when I got in trouble for manips once before.. they said color it and I'd be fine.
So much for that, lmao.
It REALLY sucks when you get into trouble through someone else as you did though :/
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Blackmoonrose13 In reply to ChikitaWolf [2011-07-19 00:29:04 +0000 UTC]
I know so the person blocks you and so you go after the people who color and had no clue and it wasnt a true tracing body position and the characters hair and face everything else was her but well yea you know know thats a hard area to define.
I asked why go after me they say "because your supporting her art thieving"
And that one group I stopped being a member due to that experience and told them remove what I posted I dont want to be apart of a group that is rude to there members
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Blackmoonrose13 [2011-07-19 00:31:08 +0000 UTC]
Ah, and the blocking wars -w-" And then they start creating other accounts and yada yada yada more messy
You did a smart thing :/ It's not good to stay in those kind of groups-- just gives you unecessary stress
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Blackmoonrose13 In reply to ChikitaWolf [2011-07-19 00:35:05 +0000 UTC]
to much drama for me I like a stress free art zone (to bad i cant get rid of the stress at home)
I have been in a couple more like civilian casualty more or less
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Blackmoonrose13 [2011-07-19 00:36:46 +0000 UTC]
I get rid of my stress through rants -brick'd-
Stress and drama is one of the many things we have to go through in both life and the internet ._.
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Blackmoonrose13 In reply to ChikitaWolf [2011-07-19 00:39:15 +0000 UTC]
sadly
i rant in school i would type up my hatred for students and all that and there moronicness and well my friend ebby and wes called me stupid emo attention seeking yea welcome to my world
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Blackmoonrose13 [2011-07-19 00:41:15 +0000 UTC]
You in America? LMAO I know it's bad in my area *sigh* But what can ya do? It's in every area. Stereotypes. People trying to boost their ego at the expense of others. That's life. Just gotta get through it and retain a smidgen of sanity, yeah?
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Blackmoonrose13 In reply to ChikitaWolf [2011-07-19 00:43:59 +0000 UTC]
well i am crazy but it helps the creative
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Blackmoonrose13 [2011-07-19 00:44:37 +0000 UTC]
I like being crazy-- the normal are boring
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Darkness-Nightguard [2011-07-18 21:57:25 +0000 UTC]
Cool stamp. Great message. I think everyone can help keep this site clean. And it really isn't hard being polite.
Sometimes people just don't know it better (for example kids) and you wouldn't bash in real live a twelve-year old for not knowing something he was to lazy to read when joining?
Well, whatever, I like this stamp
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ChikitaWolf In reply to Darkness-Nightguard [2011-07-19 00:23:13 +0000 UTC]
Thank you and I agree haha
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sailorstar165 In reply to ??? [2011-07-18 21:33:08 +0000 UTC]
Huh. I never knew coloring was against the rules. I see enough of it. *shrugs*
Now if you want rule breakers making a hole of a site... *looks at FF.net and shudders*
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ChikitaWolf In reply to sailorstar165 [2011-07-19 00:23:54 +0000 UTC]
No kidding >3< *I'm not a bit bitter or anything-- nuh uh*
Oh Lord
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Blackmoonrose13 In reply to sailorstar165 [2011-07-18 22:45:15 +0000 UTC]
its ok if you color lines from like here have permission and credit (i do it often) but if you color a manga page or something like that thats a no no
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sailorstar165 In reply to Blackmoonrose13 [2011-07-19 11:58:12 +0000 UTC]
Huh. Good to know.
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