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EDIT: CHANGED OPINIONS!!Hey guys its been a while. im older now, and my opinions have changed but im still gonna leave this shit up because I may as well.
we shouldn't discourage kids from questioning their gender anymore. I questioned my fukin gender! I thought I was nb for a while but im just a gnc girl. theres nothin wrong with that! I made this post because at the time of my dA account being super active, I unfortunately was trying really hard to fit in with a group of racist and homophobic boys at my school. I used to think they were super cool. they are not. they can suck my peepee. if ur trans and non dysphoric, I hella don't care! I will respect ur identity and ur pronouns bc theres no reason for me not to. it doesn't hurt me to call someone what they want to be called.
tl;dr I don't care anymore, identify as what you want!
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That's why it shouldn't be glorified or made someone's whole "identity." That's cruel and abusive, and this trend is sick.
Entitled teens made it a fad in the last few years, but they are sheltered and rarely even know what boys and girls are like in reality. Often it is easy for me to tell their biological gender (even on the internet) from personality traits that go over their heads. It's all sort of entertaining, but sad.
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gender dysphoria actually ISN'T required !!
here's an APA article of a QnA made by expert psychiatrists. under "Is there a general age that people realize they are transgender or experience gender dysphoria?"
the DSM-V has also stated: "Gender dysphoria refers to the distress that may accompany the incongruence...Not all individuals will experience distress as a result of the incongruence"
and the protected wikipedia page for gender dysphoria has also stated "ICD-11 defines gender incongruence as "a marked and persistent incongruence between an individual's experienced gender and the assigned sex", with presentations similar to the DSM-5 definition, but does not require significant distress or impairment."
although dysphoria, incongruence and euphoria all relate and go into one psychological group, the dysphoria is not the requirement !!
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Okay, sure. Perhaps there is a difference between gender dysphoria and gender incongeuence. Still, this doesn't change the general consensus most transmeds abide by that being transgender is a medical condition that cannot be simplified to a simple "ehh ykw? i don't wanna be (this gender) anymore. poof, i'm (this gender) now!" as a lot of misinformed people seem to go by. Now keep this in mind, I'm not saying that quote scenario is what transgenderism is. It isn't, of course. My main point here is that even if the specified distress from GD may not be a requirement for all people, it's still general fact that experiencing one form of discomfort or another towards your biological sex is essentially a requirement.
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For all the opposing comments, consider this: believing that you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans is the equivalent of believing you don't need a low IQ to be mentally retarded. It makes no sense and defeats the entire point.
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what the fuck was going through your mind when you made this yikes
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and even cis people can have one form of dysphoria, called dysphoria relating to restricted gender expression
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i'm way more hurt when cis people/trans people with internalised transphobia try to police which of my trans siblings get into the community based on criteria that isn't in the dictionary definition of being trans and has been disproven as criteria to be trans, than I am by whether someone has gender dysphoria or not and identifies as trans. actually, someone not having dysphoria and identifying as trans doesn't hurt me in the slightest, because I know that any hatred towards them is just transphobes trying to find a loophole and an "acceptable" target for their bullshit.
people should not have to disclose their dysphoria status to someone for them to be considered valid, and you can't tell who's "really trans" unless they do disclose it. another user already fucked this up by assuming I wasn't really trans until I disclosed a former account to her, where she had said previously I was a Real Trans Person™.
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people who are super judgmental about this sort of case aren't really the kindest of folks, are they? i'm super sorry you had an experience like that! ;m;
i do agree with this stamp however that there should be some sort of dysphoria. to explain their take a bit more on this, what they mean to say is that a person who experiences no discomfort in their gender, or body, but decides to transition to the opposing gender anyway, aren't doing it for comfort purposes. most times, if not done for comfort purposes, it's done for gender conformity purposes. a person who decides to change their gender just because they're more like the opposing gender in their personality can be seen as incredibly disrespectful towards those who are genuinely uncomfortable with their birth gender. gender identity shouldn't conform to gender roles, is what they're saying.
i don't think they intended to imply "you need to be policed! you need to be asked!! oh boy we gotta know in order for you to be valid!!!"
at least, to me, if someone is possibly transgender without any dysphoria, it's not like i'm going to call them out or ask about it. i just respect their pronouns and move on, because that isn't something you should tell others what and what not to do.
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the problem is, even just having this mindset does open it up for policing others identities. Since I started defending other people who didn't have dysphoria, I've been accused of not having it myself (even though I've outright stated that I have it previously) and largely it's been used as an excuse to misgender me. Even if you're not, a vast majority of truscum are extremely eager for a reason to misgender trans people, so they created some bullshit criteria and were like "sorry if you don't fit this you're cis". a majority of the ones who did this are cis themselves, and then hide behind the trans ones when they get called out for it (or say some nonsense like "I have trans friends so it's not transphobic")
I personally don't see a problem with someone wanting to transition because of their "personality", since a lot of gender is a social construct rather than a biological or psychological one, and it's not disrespectful to me. Someone transitioning because they feel it fits their personality more isn't really conforming to gender roles.
They very much do intend "You gotta be policed and we gotta know in order for you to be valid!", but sometimes these fucks won't even ask. They'll see you defending your trans siblings without dysphoria and assume you also don't have dysphoria, and then it's open fucking season on the misgendering. I've gotten fairly regular messages about how I'm a fake trans, which has been used as an excuse to misgender me and erase me as being trans, even though I do have dysphoria, the one thing that they say I need to be trans! It's pretty evident that they don't actually care about dysphoria or not, but they care if you agree with them, and if you don't, you're not really trans.
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yikes. i see. i do understand completely, don't worry. it is a shame the kind of people out there who are like this. :c
just know that i'm not like that, for sure. i do have my own opinions, but i don't shove them at anyone. i only use my opinions to educate, really.
i believe you have dysphoria, at least! so don't let those people bring you down!
i'll have to think hard about the personality not conforming to gender roles bit, personally. it's not that i don't believe you, it's just something i hadn't really considered. when i think "transtrenders" i think "people who claim to be transgender upon discovering they like "boy"ish things over "girl"ish things". personally for me i don't think objects, or fashion, should be labeled by gender - but many still believe in that.
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it honestly doesn't matter to me if you claim to not be like them; you support the ideology that led to these actions, and it's kind of like saying you're homophobic in the "oh but i'm not like the homophobes who kill, don't worry! i still accept who you are!" way. Like yes, you're not as bad, but it's still not good, either. You could be better.
it's not necessarily a simple matter that's easy to understand. there isn't really any such thing as a "transtrender" because nobody in their right mind would put themselves through the shit that trans people go through because they think it'll make them look cool. it's not like owning the newest iPhone or whatever; most people will ostracise you heavily if you come out as transgender. that problem is getting a bit better, but it's not getting better fast enough. still, trans women of colour are being murdered. still, trans people of all genders are getting fired, bullied, abused, and downtrodden. nobody would identify as trans if they didn't truly believe it was who they were, with or without dysphoria, and oftentimes it's not conforming to gender roles that is the first step to figuring out someone's identity. and most trans people don't mind if someone tries out an identity for themselves, finds it doesn't work, and decides to keep looking, and the ones that do are assholes.
it's not so much labelling objects or fashion by gender as it is a very obvious and understandable signifier of gender, that lets people sort of signal to others "hey, i'm X gender". ContraPoints goes a bit more into detail about this in her video Gender Critical, mainly points 2 and 3: youtu.be/1pTPuoGjQsI?t=544 (starts at Point 2 if you want to get to the point, but I'd also recommend just watching the whole thing). this kind of goes into why it's kind of bogus to whine about trans people who start their journey by liking boyish things over girly things (for trans men) and vice versa (for trans women), or do it at all.
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i don't disagree with ContraPoints, that's part of my belief, but thank you for leading me to that anyway just in case!
unfortunately, i agree with you - there shouldn't really be such thing as a "transtrender", because nobody in their right mind would put themselves through the shit that trans people go through because they think it'll make them look cool - but believe it or not, it's happened, and i've seen it. these are the only type of people i've been referring to "without dysphoria" and "disrespectful towards those with", and albeit, also people who probably only have come out online, to get such attention to begin with. not only is it disrespectful towards people with dysphoria, but also those without who have made the decision to be real about it - like your siblings; because it undermines the suffering transgender folk go through, dysphoria and lifestyle both.
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it's not that there shouldn't be such a thing as transtrending, it's that there plain isn't such a thing. even without dysphoria, every trans person is trans for a reason, and the reason isn't "lol it's a cool trend". what you've seen is the same people who make transphobic attack helicopter jokes, who behind the scenes identify as cis and want to divide the transgender community at a time when we're most vulnerable. and you bit the bait hook, line, and sinker, and now think it's acceptable to try and tell me how I should feel about my own experiences.
no trans person is responsible for the oppression the trans community faces - that's transphobic transmed dogma, that they use to divide the trans community. i know this because i used to be a transmed. i know all the ins and outs of the argument, and I know what its ultimate goal is; to divide trans people based on what cis people will find acceptable, and insist the only experience that validates a trans person is their pain. It reduces a trans person to their pain, fetishises it, and deems anyone who didn't experience that pain as invalid. 9 times out of 10, it also excludes anybody who disagrees with them, regardless of whether they're trans or not.
In the 2-3 years I was a transmed/truscum (and as vocal about it as i am about not being one now), not a single tucute misgendered me and said "You experience dysphoria, so your experiences are invalid!". However, in just the six months I've not been a transmed/truscum, i've had at least a dozen transmeds tell me that I'm faking being trans and "Sorry you're not really trans to me" even though, as established, i experience the exact thing that's needed, as I've already told you. Whether you think the same is honestly irrelevant to me; the ideology is built around excluding trans people based on criteria decided by cisgender people. Imagine if the black community excluded people that were "too white", but it was up to whites to decide who was and wasn't black enough? That was what the Stolen Generations in Australia were; people deciding when a kid was "too white" to live in Aboriginal cultures, and actually kidnapped those children to indoctrinate them into white colonist society. A similar mindset is at the centre of truscum/transmed ideology. That if you aren't X enough, you don't experience enough internal pain from your body being a pain to live in, that you're actually cisgender. And it's not like people treat you like you're cisgender, either, in much the same way that trans women aren't treated as just men if they're caught being visibly trans in an area that doesn't respect her. They treat you like a monster, like everything wrong with the trans community - so that they can feel better about their own transphobia and shift the blame to someone else.
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nondysphoric trans people are great
you guys are just transphobic and think that kissing up to cis people will get them to like you more and i pity you
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congrats on your redemption arc
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"Nondysphoric trans"
You have a funny way of saying cisgender.
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you have a funny way of betraying the trans community :flushed:
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Being trans isn't an all-inclusive club that anyone can be a part of. If you do not at the very least feel a disconnect from your sex, are not dissatisfied with the parts you were born with or you like and are completely fine with your birth sex, then I STRONGLY doubt that you are trans.
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right, but simply feeling comfortable being called something else isnt dysphoria. dysphorias a mental disorder that requires symptoms to be at play in order to be diagnosed. theres no such thing as "even the teeniest amount of discomfort in your body makes you trans" if you believe dysphoria is needed to be trans, because thats not what gender dysphoria is and thats not up to you to diagnose.
trans people without dysphoria, whether theyre entirely indifferent/okay with their birth gender or dont meet all the symptoms/requirements to be diagnosed with dysphoria, are trans, both by legal definition and because they know their body and feelings better than anybody else does.
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The American Psychiatric Association defines gender dysphoria as "Gender dysphoria involves a conflict between a person's physical or assigned gender and the gender with which he/she/they identify."
Source: www.psychiatry.org/patients-fa…
The National Health Service in the UK defines gender dysphoria as "Gender dysphoria is a condition where a person experiences discomfort or distress because there's a mismatch between their biological sex and gender identity."
www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-d…
So yeah, my belief that you at the very least need to have some kind of disconnect between your gender identity and the gender you were assigned at birth to be trans, which basically is a longer and more complicated way of saying you need gender dysphoria. I'm not diagnosing anyone, I'm just using reliable sources to form opinions. I never said anywhere that I know everything. I'm not perfect and understand that. However, you tucutes are the ones being far more destructive. People have been banned from discord servers, told by others they're not welcome at pride, banned from subreddits for believing you need dysphoria to be trans. You guys muddied the definition of the word transphobia by using it on people who are the exact OPPOSITE of transphobes.
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oh nooo oh gosh oh gee im sooo sorry for banning you from discord servers, subreddits, and telling you not to go to pride 
not that truscum have done anything worse, of course! i mean, where would the trans community be if truscum hadnt made trans people question their identities on whether or not theyre really trans, or convinced nonbinary people that they arent trans, or misgendered/degraded/mocked those they dont deem "trans" enough, or sided with cis people for validation instead of standing up for their trans siblings, or caused fights within the trans community to pin trans people against eachother?
but oh gosh, youre banned from a subreddit, it might as well be the end of the fucking world, right?
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Nondysphoric trans people are cis
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