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Its really a convoluted mess of different preferences and perceptions that makes people make a deal out of sakura or hinata.
Here in the U.S. the hate for Sakura is nothing new, the majority watches the anime and many just apporach it with their view or aspects of their own culture, not the culture its based on. like 615 many saw as hand holding = romantic but it didn't turn out that way on narutos end. Many thought it was NH instant win, well then 631 came and caused a massive meltdown on narutofourms and narutobase, worst of all, when 615 released, the admins did nothing on those sites yet they did when 631 came out.
And it just makes me upset, to no end, that the main target audience for this series is boys in the middle school range, yet in japan I don't see massive overractions from events like 631 or so like here in the states.
To many its not matter what sakura does, she is pointless but hinata is perfect, she can do no wrong. Yet this is a funny understatement because hinatas missed out on a few things and she isnt an ideal character if she comes in and out every 50+ chapters to actually do something aside from chanting naruto's name.
At this point and time, people just hate sakura blindly or dont want her around, some NS fans like me, we like to nickname 631 as the massacre chapter, egos and upsets were great on that day, it was like a tragedy, people hated the sole fact that sakura was just simply compared to kushina or naruto considered sakura his girlfriend. It was so crazy, it was proof of if this is how they acted towards a simple notion that NS could just be possible, just keep it in mind, I would fear (or laugh) at the reactions if NS actually went canon and now we have all these nitpickers at any moment trying to say anything we think is NS is not and just a joke or not development. Its not our fault we were right about the kushina stuff or that kishi actually uses sakura more than hinata.
I mean we need to wait 2 weeks for the next chapter, oh well, but even with a cliffhanger coming on Sakura, she isnt going to die instantly, killing her off in one second has no real purpose, nor does making her bleed out. it seems like its trouble again more than ever with her being targeted by madara, but madara's real goal is his rinnegan. Theres no point in killing sakura it just leaves too many things unresolved, she has events for the future she needs to be well, alive for in part for some stuff relating to naruto and sasuke too. killing her solves nothing as many fans want, it just makes more unresolved and messed up aspects from one part of the story to another.
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Are you serious? There's no massive overreactions from events regarding 631 in japan itself?! I'm very aware that the western and asia fandom are really different because of its culture, but I saw the female audience in japan actively declare their pleasant when 631 released. I admit it's not as big 615's reaction but their comments are positive.
There's one friend of mine that support nh, he's boy but he's admitting that the one who end up with naruto is sakura as the story goes. It kinda upset me too but as 631 released, (how I see it) it left no meaning to my friend who read naruto. Do people really ignore this?
And how minato's and kushina's comments don't matter anymore when it comes to sakura. How disrespectful people is.
I think you're right, maybe it's proof that they ever/already consider ns could just possible, admit it or not. Each fans react differently, whether they just agree quitely or crazy reacting over it.
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Look, that's a POSSIBILITY, which still needs to get CONFIRMED by Sakura HERSELF.
That's what annoys me in NaruSakus the most - they DON'T "need" Sakura at all, they ALREADY "know" it's "CANONZ"...
Sorry, NO.
UNTIL Sakura actually SAYS she LOVES Naruto.
IF she does that (and in a clearly honest and truthful context, NOT like that 469 shit) - I'll admit NaruSaku actually happened.
But if I were you guys, I would NOT raise my hopes for it TOO high, based on the ENTIRE manga so far...
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Oh, and this post is old and the person I'm referring to ain't you, bud. But you do easily fit the description.Β
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yissy-chan.deviantart.com/jourβ¦
Mr. Anti, I think this might be beneficial to you.Β
Also, I think you'd benefit from gaining some respect for others. I don't like NaruHina, but that doesn't mean I go to NaruHina pictures and proof posts and belittle people for believing in something they care about, even though, honestly, it has hardly a chance happening. The only reason I'm stomping on your ship now is because you stomped on mine in NS territory. I'd never go to a NH post and make fun of them, and it looks like even most NH fans are nicer than you because you're the only one here, dude. Oh, and did this post ever claim NS as canon? ...No, I don't think so. Payung-merah just restated what Kishimoto said while pairing it with drawings from Kishimoto's own hand. Does that sound like falsely calling canon to you? Cause there's no original thought from ourselves there, it's all Kishi, so according to your logic, I guess Kishi's calling canon :3Β
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Well all pairings tend to do that :/
Sakura isn't exactly the girl tho, who tends to just say she loves Naruto. She's a tsundere...
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You just said below that:
***She started out as a sasuke fangirl then ended up falling in love with him.
So it went from a crush to true infatuation.
Sakura feels guilty that she hasn't been able to return Naruto's feelings, despite the fact she "loves" Sasuke.***
Sooo...
Does she LOVE Sasuke OR Naruto according to YOU???
Because IF she loves Sasuke (which is what manga hints at actually) - then she is NOT a "tsundere".
NOR does it give ANY (additional) validity to NaruSaku at all.
And you just said yourself that she DOESN'T return Naruto's feelings.
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I think both. Like she loves him, a little, but Sasuke more.
So if a hot tempered girl doesn't hit her love that doesn't make her a tsundere?
Hm.. I don't think Sakura would fit into the categories of "yandere."
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Look, the way I understand the whole "tsundere" trope:
She keeps hitting him for silly actions in casual situations (and for comedic relief), but we can see her either showing explicit romance later on (like Kagome), OR she helps him when it really matters on a constant basis (like Anna).
Neither actually applies to Sakura - she shows no non-ambiguous romance for Naruto (she lied about it and later still thought of Sasuke), nor is she extremely helpful to him on a constant basis (in most cases throughout the manga, she is the one getting the help, not providing it).
All of it COULD fit Sakura - but THE main problem is that she INITIALLY starts focused on Sasuke and yet she DOESN'T show any "tsundere" signs towards HIM.
Neither Kagome, Anna, Lina, etc. are INITIALLY focused on someone ELSE - they just "pretend to dislike the guy they beat", in a way.
For THEM, it's an "evolution" from BEATING to CARING and LOVING - but it's REVOLVES around the SAME guy.
In Sakura's case - she LOVED Sasuke, while BEATING Naruto.
Thus, ALL of her attacks on Naruto are NOT "because she secretly loves him as a tsundere" (mostly cause there's ZERO manga proof for her actually having ROMANTIC feelings for Naruto and/or NOT having those for Sasuke anymore; and I mean actual manga quotes, NOT fan assumptions) - but simply cause she IS violent.
I'd say you COULD technically call her a tsundere based on her CARING for Naruto (for PLATONIC reasons) - but that's NOT a reason you could base NaruSaku ROMANCE on.
For the latter, we first need her to show GENUINELY ROMANTIC feelings for Naruto AND GENUINELY NON-ROMANTIC feelings for Sasuke.
If anything, the manga shows it the OTHER way around.
Oh, and the FINAL/MAJOR point:
NONE of those tsunderes had a USEFUL and CLEARLY IN LOVE with the guy in question, Hinata.
Yes, there's Tamao for Anna - but:
1. Anna provides much MORE for Yoh than Tamao - while Hinata is AT LEAST as (I say MORE) useful as Sakura for Naruto (it's NOT Sakura in 437 and 615).
2. Tamao openly admits she stands no chance over Anna - while Hinata never even mentioned Sakura as a romantic threat, AND she keeps dreaming of NaruHina even after 631.
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yes she does -.-
Usually she would take advantage of Naruto's crush on her to get free ramen, but there was a time (once or twice) where sheΒ offered to pay for the meal. If it was still the Sakura in part 1, she never would've done that unless Sasuke was there or Kakashi made her.
I don't think comparing Sakura to other anime characters is really useful since all of the animes have at least one of the "deres" in their own different way.
So proving Hinata is more useful than Sakura is Naruhina proof?
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It's my NaruHina REASON.
And 'useful' doesn't mean 'stronger'.
It means that she affects Naruto (and the overall plot) more - thus she's more RELEVANT.
Oh, and she COMBINES it with LOVING Naruto a lot - which is actually the REASON that those moments DO enhance the idea of NaruHina.
Hinata does that FOR Naruto and BECAUSE of Naruto, not just randomly or for any other reasons.
I can't explain it better, but I see a DIRECT correlation between Hinata's actions and her accompanying words.
437 is probably the most OBVIOUS example (she plainly states that she came there because she loves him, and the same reason causes her self-sacrifice), but there are more - you just need to see the LINKS (aka references) throughout the manga.
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You're right, but Sakura still is more useful and stronger than Hinata.
She shouldn't, partly because she's a minor character and doesn't deserve that much attention.
Sakura lied to Naruto FOR him and BECAUSE she didn't want to hurt his feelings anymore than she already did.
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I'd like to hear what has Sakura ever ACCOMPLISHED for Naruto himself (by the way, Sasori does NOT count here, cause it didn't involve Naruto DIRECTLY).
Cause Hinata:
a. Gave him enough courage to beat Neji - cause he was clearly doubting himself before her 'proud failure' speech, so I doubt he'd won otherwise. (He said so himself.)
b. Gave him a big enough shock to beat Pain - cause there was no OBVIOUS (aka predictable) way for him to win otherwise. (He was immobilized with no one else around to save him.)
c. Gave him enough motivation to not give in to Obito - cause he was clearly on the verge of giving up entirely otherwise. (He shows this in his thoughts.)
ALL of these are the DIRECT results of Hinata's PERSONAL ACTIONS.
Now - what about Sakura???
And please stick to the manga and to actual cause-effect FACTS, not mere 'what if's or 'could have been's.
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She selflessly threw herself in front of Naruto when Kurama took control over him
She cheered for him in the chuunin exams before Hinata did.
She tried to save him by giving him CPR, and cutting open his chest.
She helped him in snapping out of Itachi's genjutsu.
She healed him, and fed him (well tried to) and visited him in the hospital, which counts as comfort.
If you notice, there are more things Sakura has done for Naruto than Hinata.
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ACCOMPLISHMENTS:
1. Got injured with no actual gain for either of them; made Naruto worry even more, when he found out about it later on.
2. And did it affect him in any VISIBLE way? To compare: when he cheered for Hinata, she actually had thoughts (and determination) in response. Has he done so due to Sakura?
3. Good point; still needed Minato/Obito to actually save him, but so did Hinata during Pain; yet in 615 Hinata was the major one involved - as we can see from Naruto thanking Hinata, not Kurama.
4. I agree; but it didn't affect the plot much, despite definitely counting as BEING HELPFUL.
5. Be more specific; also, I'm talking about plot-level accomplishments, so feeding is irrelevant.
Not really.
I see 3 points here at most (3, 4, 5), same as with Hinata.
Not much of a "victory" for a MAIN character.
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And yet you wonder, why does he worry?
He didn't because he was afraid she'd snap atΒ him for distracting her.
Can we agree that neither Hinata or Sakura actually saved him? (they both tried and failed)
Hinata was never meant to have this much attention. (which, undoubtedly, should've gone to Sakura)
Which is probably why she has those "moments."
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Don't weasel out of the TOPIC - which in this case is "Sakura's accomplishments in AFFECTING Naruto and/or the plot".
I don't recall saying that; irrelevant to the topic anyways.
I said "affected HIM" - as in something like: "Sakura-chan is watching me; I MUST win" (like Hinata DID think). www.mangapanda.com/93-80-3/nar⦠(no reaction from Naruto whatsoever) vs www.mangapanda.com/93-85-5/nar⦠(that led to www.mangapanda.com/93-85-7 naruto/chapter-80.html/www.mangapanda.com/93-85-9/nar⦠and www.mangapanda.com/93-85-11/na⦠(www.mangapanda.com/93-85-12/na⦠www.mangapanda.com/93-85-13/na⦠www.mangapanda.com/93-85-14/na⦠. HUGE difference.
I disagree. Hinata DID save him in 615 (or at least paid a significantly major role in it). And BOTH girls HELPED to save him on those other occasions (Pain and CPR). But the latter cases were lesser (PERSONALLY-achieved) accomplishments in comparison to the former one.
*Hello, Kishi. Nice to meet you.* - as I so often see in the HATERS.
Coulda-shoulda-woulda, yet DIDN'T. Unlike you, I actually base my opinion on the actual CANON that HAPPENED. And which also keeps RUINING NaruSaku (through Sakura being openly negative to it), while PRESERVING NaruHina (as a logical FUTURE possibility; through Hinata consistently mentioning it).
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So let me get this straight-You ship Naruhina because Hinata affects Naruto more? That's not really irrelevant considering Sasuke affected him more than Hinata.
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And NaruSasu IS an extremely strong BOND.
Just not ROMANCE - and only for an OBVIOUS gender-reason.
That is NOT a problem for NaruHina.
Also, NaruSAKU is heavily related to NaruSASU, while NaruHina ISN'T.
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Actually let's see the similarities:
Naruto disliked them both at first
Hinata and Sasuke are both quiet and have a troubling childhood.
They're both great friends of Naruto
Hinata and Sasuke are both from a powerful clan, need I say more?
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Aaaaand???
Also, I don't care for paralols or similarities as REASONS - only DEFENSIVE BACKUPS.
Meaning:
I ship NaruHina NOT because it reminds me of a gender-bent MinaKushi (but rather based on the actual NaruHina interaction) - but I will invoke that similarity in DEFENSE from NaruSakus BASING their ship on MinaKushi (while they also ignore the actual NaruSaku interaction).
I myself don't CARE for that paralol - but when it gets used as a BASIS for NaruSaku, I immediately show how THE SAME (if not MORE) applies to NaruHina too.
And as of NaruSASU - Kishi never gave us any reasons to suspect him of liking YAOI.
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Actually, Kishimoto was ABOUT to make Sasunaru happen because of that. (and their bond/development, whatever.)
And, based on Kishimoto, Narusaku IS practically a similar ship to Minakushi :/
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READ today's chapter. SASUSAKU confirmed by KAKASHI.
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I take that as more of a narusaku moment.
sasusaku is not CONFIRMED just by Sakura talking to Sasuke 
Kakashi was saying how she still likes him, but not in the same way, which might hint that she has feelings for Naruto.
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Or maybe a hint that Kakashi is in love with Akamaru - about the same level of RELEVANCE.
Even if Sakura KILLS Sasuke - this IN ITSELF would NOT be a PROOF of NaruSaku.
ONLY if Sakura actually SAYS that she LOVES Naruto - and MEANS it.
And THAT has NOT happened yet.
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Oh? First off, Akamaru was NOWHERE near Kakashi at the time. Secondly,Β the same goes for Sasusaku/Naruhina.Β
Third, narusaku has more mutual development than naruhina/sasusaku.
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1. ...
2. I never said otherwise, yet it takes much LESS for Naruto to accept Hinata (zero CANON rejections either way), than for Sakura to accept Naruto (two CANON rejections both ways). To disagree with THAT, is clear bias.
3. 615 vs 631 shows very much the OTHER way around. It's called CHARACTER development.
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It would be easier for Sakura and better for her to accept Naruto. In the third databook Kishi said she doesn't even know her feelings anymore. I think it would be better for her to pick the guy who saves her and loves her rather than the one who tried to kill her.
To that, Sakura developing is pro Narusaku. If she stayed the same she would still be a whiny Sasuke fangirl who never learned to heal and live up to her potential.
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I'm pretty sure I've said this OVER 9000 times already, but some people just don't learn:
The DATA BOOKS are ANCIENTLY OUTDATED.
STOP using info from around chapter 400 as a "PROOF" for chapter 600+.
You just REALLY make yourself look like an idiot.
Moments ***NOT*** covered by the data books:
1. 437.
2. 469.
3. 540.
4. 559.
5. 615.
6. 631.
etc.
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So is it illegal to still use the information? No. I was talking about her feelings, not her skills. Yes, her skills have changed but her feelings somewhat remain the same.
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Are you THAT stupid???
(I guess NOT - just too BIASED to accept that your view is based on clearly outdated data.)
NONE of the CHAPTERS that I mentioned have anything to do with SKILLS.
OK, since you pretend to "not understand":
1. 437 - Hinata confirms that she LOVES Naruto, by CONFESSING her LOVE and SELF-SACRIFICING for him (cue NO REJECTION from Naruto).
2. 469 - Sakura confirms that she DOESN'T LOVE Naruto, by LYING to him and BOTH thinking about Sasuke (cue IMMEDIATE REJECTION from Naruto).
3. 540 - Sakura confirms that she still LOVES Sasuke, by THINKING about him and NOT Naruto after being asked whom she LOVES.
4. 559 - Naruto confirms that he REMEMBERS 437, by THANKING Hinata for SAVING him (cue *STILL* NO REJECTION from Naruto).
5. 615 - Naruto confirms that he CARES about Hinata, by THANKING her for BEING by his side (cue *STILL* NO REJECTION from Naruto).
6. 631 - Sakura confirms that she DOESN'T LOVE Naruto again, by HITTING him for merely ASSUMING NaruSaku (also cue 'Sasuke-KUN' afterwards).
NONE of the above is covered by the data books - yet has extreme IMPORTANCE for NaruHina/NaruSaku/SasuSaku.
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So if you sacrifice yourself for Naruto, you end up with him? That's hilarious, considering Sakura did too-not in the same way, but still a sacrificial attempt- Chapter 292
And why did she exactly lie? Because she cares. If she didn't, she wouldn't have lied.
If you take that as an anti-narusaku sign, think about this- Naruto has loved Sakura for over 400 chapters. If he just stops loving her, then he's pretty much lying to himself as well.
Yes, she still loves Sasuke, but so does Karin/Ino/other fangirls, which really doesn't make a difference. It's getting pretty obvious Karin loves him more than Sakura does.
So having a flashback makes Naruhina canon? yeah, I didn't think so either.
We don't know if she meant it that way, or she wanted him to call her his girlfriend rather than "kind of"
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No, but you DO prove the depth of your LOVE by doing so.
Sakura has never willingly PUT herself into a self-sacrificial situation to SAVE Naruto.
If you refer to her confronting him in 4-tails - that was merely STUPID.
Hinata was trying to SAVE him from Pain - she planned to win Naruto at least some time.
That's a PLAN.
Now, what was Sakura's PLAN???
I don't see ANY.
Besides, Hinata was the ONLY person that jumped into that fight - she literally was Naruto's ONLY chance.
But Sakura had Yamato nearby - who was also MORE suitable to actually HELP (subdue) Naruto.
So, what was she trying to accomplish MORE than Yamato could???
Yup, Hinata acted heroic, Sakura acted reckless.
Another note:
Hinata made Naruto SMILE by remembering that moment - Sakura made him CRY for hurting HER.
Just proves the above AGAIN.
Care =/= Love.
I never said that Sakura doesn't CARE for Naruto - she DOES.
But LOVE him - NOPE.
I haven't seen any REAL proof of him LOVING Sakura post-time skip.
Even to Sai he said it in a NEGATIVE context, more like giving up on it.
And 631 doesn't involve FEELINGS at all - cause, you see, he DOESN'T say: "I LOVE her".
Actually, he NEVER said that AT ALL.
LIKE, yes - LOVE, never ever.
You REALLY don't understand LOVE.
Sakura wanted to kill Sasuke to SAVE him from further DARKNESS - that's LOVE.
A desperate one, yet still REAL.
Ino was a FANGIRL.
Karin STILL IS - she literally DROOLS over him.
That's kinda DISGUSTING.
A flashback alone - NO.
Extensive praising and thanking AND paying MORE attention over Sakura (who was present in both 558/9 and 615, yet pretty much IGNORED in comparison) - YES.
Holding her hand and seeing her strength in her eyes - does HELP this too.
And don't even start the idiotic chakra excuse - you yourself know it's FALSE.
Yeah, and she wanted to rape him then and there.
STUPID FANS ARE STUPID...
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Hinata had no GOOD plan, and neither did Sakura. Hinata was not his only chance, there were the OTHER members of the Konoha 11, the rest of them were just smarter than her.
And compare how many times Naruto has smiled than cry when it comes to Sakura.
THAT'S THE STUPIDEST ARGUEMENT I EVER HEARD.Β So asking her out on a date,Β mustΒ notΒ mean anything.
Not exactly... she wanted to kill him so that in the future, he wouldn't become an even BIGGER burden.
Ino's still a fangirl? I suggest you reread the chapter where her father dies.
But she's more wiling to be with him than Sakura.
It's pretty much the same for the CPR scene. Naruhina fans take it for granted and call it just CPR when clearly, she was doing more than that.
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You are just being stupid as result of your bias.
Shoulda-coulda-woulda, yet notdida.
Did anyone else COME to face the last Pain?
NO.
Only Hinata DID.
And she DID have a GOAL - to stall time for Naruto.
Which she DID (and even MORE).
So, what was Sakura trying to ACCOMPLISH - that Yamato COULDN'T?
I'm all ears.
Good, cause Hinata NEVER made him CRY (only ONCE - being HAPPY that she survived).
Even Sai pointed out that Sakura has HURT Naruto.
And when was the LAST time he asked her?
Oh, and YES, it still counts LESS than outright SAYING: "I LOVE YOU."
Which he NEVER did.
Then she WOULD've killed him - she had the PERFECT chance.
Stop being an IDIOT.
I suggest you to READ carefully.
I said "WAS".
You conveniently left out Karin, for whatever reason.
Yes, she was shouting: "Naruto, don't leave me. I love you so much."
I'm REALLY tired of your obvious bias-induced stupidity and fact-blindness.
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She was being very stupid despite the fact she tried to save him. She made him angry. Which as just as bad as crying.Β
Do you think Sakura wants to hurt Naruto after he's done so much for her?
that's still a retarded statement. That's like saying Tsunade didn't love Dan because she never said "I love you."Β
I'm not seeing a how a "smart" fan like you could come up with reasons like this, but I guess that's what you get when you argue with a retarded Naruhina fan
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Sakura made Naruto cry as a result of HER actions - and there was no NEED (nor any PROFIT) for her to intervene.
Hinata made Naruto angry as a result of ENEMY actions - and there was dire NEED (and evident PROFIT) for her to intervene.
Definitely NOT the same.
You may assume two-person romance, based solely on smaller hints
But in love triangles (and beyond), actual clear words (and/or explicit actions) are needed to determine the "winner".
Say "retarded" 9000 more times, and maybe you yourself will *BELIEVE IT*.
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She made him angry by HER actions to save him. Gosh, are you that stupid?Β
In the end, it doesn't matter who affected him the most or loved in the most. It's who HE loves and who he wanted to be with (according to his parent's advice) who is currently Sakura. Not Hinata.Β
I'm ignoring all texts after this since I don't like arguing with Naruhina fans with no common sense.Β Β
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Sure, which is why she has NEVER EVER HIT Sasuke-KUUUN.
Facepalming is too weak to reflect my frustration with such IDIOTS...
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-_-'
Do you seriously think, when they're in the middle of a war, she'd drop everything and smack him for being a bastard?
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You mean the way she hit Naruto in 631, while HEALING him???
Anyways, my point was that Sakura started as a SASUKE fangirl - yet she has NEVER hit HIM (like TSUNDERES should do).
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It was because Naruto said she was "kind of" his girlfriend.
She started out as a sasuke fangirl then ended up falling in love with him.
So it went from a crush to true infatuation.
Sakura feels guilty that she hasn't been able to return Naruto's feelings, despite the fact she "loves" Sasuke.
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Hello Koshej I see you raging on another NaruSaku post again...
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(I'm sorry if you take offense to this but it needs to be said.) Dude why are you here? Now I said Β this once before to you once but I'll say it again Everytime I go to somthing Narusaku related or anit hinata related I see you. At first I was willing to let it go but now your starting to annoy me. At first you said that you only go to narusaku stuff that bashes hinata. And I was willing to leave it at that but now I see you makeing a fuss over something as harmless as someone repeating kishimoto's own words? What's the deal. Unless your a crazed narusaku supper fan this dose not mean " OH MY GAWD NARUSAKU IS CANNON AND NARUSAKU IS REAL AND SAKURA LOVES NARUTO NOT SASUKE." The only thing that this means is that it's possible. And honestly If you don't like narusaku stay away from it and don't click on it. I hate sasusaku, Naruhina, and Hinata in general And I love Narusaku and Sakura. And she is not only my favorite charector in this manga, but one of my favorite charectors in general. So I don't go any where near anything that is anti-Sakura, pro-Hinata, and pro-sasusaku and naruhina simply beacause If I hate it wasting my tiime trying to prove that Sakura is a good charector, or /hinata is a bad charector, or why Naruhina or sasusaku won't happen is a waste of my time and only makes me look like a troll. If you don't like something avoid it. Quite wasting your time trying to prove why other people are wrong when they haven't done anything wrong. I may hate naruhina but I'm not gonna give someone shit for liking it. Or for likeing hinata. Intentions do not translate to peseption. What Β starts in good intentions may and often get perseved as malishious.Β
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AND you obviously didn't READ my post right, but I won't explain.
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I disagree.
I don't care what you say.
I encountered one troll too many for that.
Blame it on THEM.
BYE.
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So you got bit by a troll and became one yourself. And you use that against the people that did you wrongs. Here he stands. Koshej. First NaruHina Avenger.
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thanks for the comment, i respect you. i know sakura's confession in 469 wasnt like we-narusaku-expected, but from the latest manga and back up from the entire development of their relationship, we sure know that things go smoothly for both their relationship. i believe that sakura's resolution for naruto is already decided
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The "problem" of this whole shipping war is, that we can only RELY on actual WORDS, when it comes to LOVE-vs-FRIENDSHIP.
And MOST of the moments for BOTH NH/NS are ambiguous enough to be EITHER of those.
Which is yet another reason why I still gravitate towards NH, not NS, cause Kishi keeps REMINDING us about Hinata's feelings, while NOT making Naruto SAY that he LOVES Sakura.
Seriously, 631 is NOT "Naruto said he LOVES Sakura", but more like "Minato ASSUMES Sakura is Naruto's girlfriend, and Naruto makes a joke at Sakura due to this, for which she HITS him".
Naruto DIDN'T say he LOVES her, and what he DID say (the girlfriend part) - is a KNOWN LIE (also confirmed by Sakura's own TYPICAL reaction).
Thus, the ONLY TRUE LOVE feeling that we KNOW about (past 469) - is Hinata's.
Naruto may or may not still LIKE Sakura (but not LOVE her), and Sakura doesn't even seem to LIKE Naruto (let alone LOVE him).
Yes, Sakura CARES for him - but that's what even FRIENDS (and SISTERS) do as well.
I see NO actual ROMANCE between them, definitely not from Sakura AND even somewhat questionably from Naruto.
Just one important note:
NaruSaku and NaruHina DO NOT depend on each other FEELINGS-wise.
Which means that EVEN if Naruto has no feelings for Hinata now, he still CAN ditch Sakura due to his feelings towards HER.
That was said to prevent stupid attempts at "proving" NaruSaku by "DISproving" NaruHina.
Nope, no direct link between those two - they CAN'T happen 'both', but they CAN happen 'none'.
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