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SimonSoys In reply to MinaWolf10 [2016-05-08 20:12:22 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I mean, everyone still considers Sonic a friend in the future, but he's such an embarrassment. I picture even the most stoic, old rivals who haven't been seen in years, like Shadow or Mogul, hear his name come up and they just shake their heads like 'wtf is that hot mess even doing.'

Nowadays Mina looks back at taking a bullet for Sonic's girlfriend and is happy to have saved Sally, not so much to have done a noble thing for a guy she loved.

I haven't figured out yet at what point in their relationship Sonic started to have a meltdown and took off. But I think it was probably really rocky for a long time before he just noped right out.
 

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MinaWolf10 In reply to SimonSoys [2016-05-08 20:27:14 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad he hasn't been cast aside by his old chums lol it has to be hard to smile at the thought of him tho

I'd imagine he would try to give domestic life a go for a while, and he would probably really try, but there would definitely be something in his mind that hasn't shut down his battle addiction, and then he gets all 'Sherlock Holmes without his pipe' and finally the mid-life crisis pops in and it just gives him the final push downhill. 

"hot mess" omg yes pls

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SimonSoys In reply to MinaWolf10 [2016-05-08 20:50:08 +0000 UTC]

I think the other problem is that he'd see Sally really trying to give their kid all these learning opportunities, being very rigid and disciplined like Julayla was to her, and he'd feel like his child was the one area where he couldn't just "wing it." Like it was too important and fragile and that he'd just screw it up or get in the way, so he left. He'd feel constricted, and he doesn't handle that well, and so he decided to leave it in the hands of people he thought were capable. At least, that would be the reasoning in his head. In truth, no one ever asked him to change for his kid. But he would have already been struggling with settling down and feeling insecure about it.

And I'm picturing him trying to talk it out with Chux and just being super oblivious to how badly he's hurt his own son, or even how much it would take to mend things at this point.

During the confrontation, Chux might start getting teary and Sonic would realize his son's sad because of him.
S: "Hey... but I LOVE you."
Chux shrugs.
S: "You KNOW that, right...?"
C: "...do I?"

And that's Sonic's first clue that ohhh maybe my kid didn't intuitively understand why I left, and that leaving has messed things up like he was trying to avoid in the first place, so now that it can't get any worse, he might as well come back, right?

And like a switch, Sonic seems to be excited to hang out with his kid. Let's fix this right now! Let's go play catch! We'll get to know each other and everything will be fine!

And Chux just sort of stares at him. Like, oh my god. You REALLY GENUINELY think that's all it's going to take, don't you? Missing for 15 years but you want to be there for me now? Wow.

Sonic is slightly discouraged when Chux doesn't immediately jump at his offer.

Sonic's attitude is that Chux doesn't NEED him around to be okay. He would absolutely be there for him if he felt like his son needed him, but thinks his other relatives can cover it.

Chux's attitude is that he shouldn't have to trudge into the wilderness to ask his father for attention in order to get it.

S: "You're okay though. I mean... you don't NEED me."
C: "...And YOU don't need ME. That's the problem."

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MinaWolf10 In reply to SimonSoys [2016-05-09 04:32:11 +0000 UTC]

ohhh boy I can see him worrying himself into a rut like that... Also yeah the obliviousness would be kind of a "yeah... I guess you wouldn't do something as bad as this if you weren't being a fucking idiot about it" deal and REALLY upsetting. So yeah I'm totally in agreement with you. Poor Chux would totally have a reason to think his father didn't love him, unfortunately. As well-intentioned as Sonic's efforts would be to suddenly want to have father-son time, he'd need to develop a relationship of trust to really break the barrier, and that takes more than just playing catch. With an issue like the one between Chux and Sonic, two major things would need to happen to prepare them to change their current standing. One; Sonic needs to be utterly broken. He needs to be shown just how much his descriptions and choices have affected the ones he loves, and how he's nearly smothered the familial bonding and love that should exist in his family. He needs to be brought to his knees. Sonic needs to be shown what his neglect has done to Chux, and how he could have been there for him, and how he needs to, as you have said, get his shit together. Two; Chux needs to allow the built-up anger and resentment to flow out, to let go of his grudges and agree to give his father one more chance. Which would be extremely hard for him, but even if Sonic was in the right mindset to start rebuilding the fragile ties with his son, it would be in vain if Chux didn't allow Sonic to try. He needs to try to see that Sonic does love his son, even if he showed it in an unhealthy and odd way. 

I KEEP REPLYING WITH THESE LONG-ASS COMMENTS OF AGREEMENT I'M SORRY 

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Zakanuva In reply to SimonSoys [2016-05-08 23:23:05 +0000 UTC]

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